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Was just refreshing myself on their website - seems they still have a good few RTR 1950s CIE coaches, which are a good starter and alternative for those who don't relish making up kits..... They also do a heating van, which of course is essential for anything 1960s, especially with grey and black'n'tan 121s out now, plus forthcoming IRM "A"s.

Just when I was half-considering ordering one! Now, a "bells & whistles" one WOULD be nice. I could be wrong, but I think Silverfox models are of a type that can be produced if necessary in smaller numbers - could the reason be difficulty in sourcing a suitable chassis?

It's located where it is due to thus beingclose to the vehicular entrance to the station; incidentally, I don't know why the photographer calls it "Rosbercon" station; its New Ross, fer gawddsakes.... probably the former is the name of the townland, but I think still wasn't "Rosbercon STATION"...... The crane in this location could probably lift stuff on and off horse-drawn trailers or lorries somewhat handier than if same had to trudge down to the other end of the station.

I'd say it's off a loading crane - was it near where the goods platform would have been? (West side of station).

NEVER was a truer word spoken! (or typed......)

One of the things I’ve always been highly impressed with - excellent backup and customer service with IRM. Maybe banks and insurance companies could copy this, please?

I had actually contacted them recently, and will send them some stuff once I can get my archive stuff unpacked again. I've been in the middle of a house move of late (Dublin city to Malahide) and most of my stuff is still stored. My top two (of very many, in theory) would be a Midland 6-wheel third, the staple of many 1950s excursions on CIE, and a GSWR bogie compo - staple of same PLUS main lines, as late as 1974 on Dublin locals.

FINTONA - the PERFECT location for a small shunting layout. You'd get a good representation of it even in 0 gauge track on a 6ft x 2ft 6" board. In 00, you could manage, if pushed, with a 3ft x 2ft board, to be shoved in the cupboard when finished operating. Add one GNR 0.6.0, a Provincial GN Guard's Van and a dozen trucks, and you're done. Dunno about a motorised horse; but had it survived much longer, Senior was of the opinion that the old Gardner railcar which did the Derry - Strabane locals would have probably ended up there.

That was lucky.......... The reality is that delivery companies REALLY need to step up to the mark. They are in the lucky position for them, and disastrous position for everyone else, of having a monopoly - and they know it, so they don't give a toss how damaged customers' good are. There are numerous stories all over the place of workers in depots and delivery men just flinging stuff about.

I have outline drawings, but I will be unable to access them until mid January (probably well within "time enough", anyway). The thing most needed is a GSWR bogie - ideally a composite but other variations too. They were to be seen on branch lines and main lines well into the 1960s, many lasting well within the "black'n'tan" era. In fact, for a grey 121 or many of the forthcoming livery variations for the IRM "A" class locos, at least SOME wooden stock in a train is almost as obligatory as the (VERY obligatory) "tin van". If he's prepared to do that, a Midland 6-wheeler will also be right for other "early diesels", especially a "C" class.

Yes, the GSWR ones had clerestories, so the kits would need these added. If you were modelling 1950s, no need for the actual windows in these - they were just canvassed and painted over, as was 861 when I first set eyes on it at Whitehead in the late 70s.............. These kits have a good GSWR "look" about them, but window spacings and numbers of doors aren't exactly right. So, for the "two-foot rule" these kits are fine in a coat of CIE green, but for strict accuracy no.

I wouldn't DREAM of such a thing. (See ye in the usual place - I've butter, women's stockings, dyed diesel, dodgy cigarettes, Craven coaches and 141s).............say nathin'.......

They're not at all unlike them side-on, indeed! i hadn't seen these - are they new? Not all of the Rosslare set were twelve- wheeled, though. Might get one of these myself.... is there any way of seeing a made-up model anywhere? A side view is one thing, but the side profile is another. I suspect, though, from my limited knowledge of pre-1925 Scottish coaches, that these might be OK though. The GSWR's 861 & 863 survived well into CIE days.

Lovely loco - and it would do very well as a generic "Irish" loco, given a dip in a pot of dark grey paint. But that would spoil that lovely livery! Roderick Bruce of 00 Works did do a RTR GNR 0.6.0 plus a RTR GSWR / GSR / CIE 0.6.0 in the past, or course. Hopefully something else will come along soon!

My next project is "Saving the World from Trumpist rhetoric, Saving the Planet and Reopening the line to Tuam", portrayed via interpretative dance.........

It's an early MGWR Rubik's cube..........

Isn't DPD an Irish company? I was going to use them for a separate (non-railway) purpose, as I would rather give my money to a local company than Jeff Bezos. But I'm not sure now....?

MODS - can you delete this post. I made a mess of it.

LOCOS 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 Steam Mostly very dark grey / some black AFTER 1955, some lined green B113 Dark & lined loco / bus green D A Later “Mid” Green C “Black and Tan” or all-black derivatives “Supertrain” – Orange all over with black midway band B101 G601 E401 K801 GNR Dark Blue G611 E421 B121 Pale Grey & Yellow (Flying Snail logo) Some Black & tan from 1965 B141 B181 071 COACHES 6 wheel pass’ger carrying 6 wheel full brake Dark & lined loco / bus green Later “mid” green Wooden bogies Bredin & early CIE P Royal Unpainted inc. chassis, roof, bogies, ends & roof Laminate “Black and tan” “Tin Vans” Cravens AEC Railcars WAGONS All types Dark Wagon Grey. “Flying Snails” & numerals light green until c.1953, then white. Light wagon grey Dark Brown, getting slightly more reddish in the 2000s. Bullied Open Unpainted bodies until they were “doubled up” for beet in the 1990s. In the 1980s a very small number had brown chassis instead of grey, but unpainted “silver!” bodies. Brake Vans Cement “bubbles” Dark wagon grey Orange “bubble” with GREY chassis Some time ago I tried to post a table of what liveries ran with what, due to the growing interest in the 1950-70 period, and the release of the Murphy 121s, as well as the equally eagerly awaited IRM "A"s. For some reason related to my crass ignorance of computers, I could not post it, so I did a simplified version. If anyone wants the full thing, please ping me on this by private message and let me know your email address and I will forward the whole story, and nothing but the story, as my learned friend might say..........

Correct - while I've no specific note or memory, the CIE logo is certain to have been on a good few of them in the 1990s. I note that IRM have again added that little "weathering" detail in, with one of their models pictured above having a clean white number, but an older dulled brownish IR logo - i.e. badly "weathered" white.

They stopped applying new ones to everything in 1986/7. From the dawn of the IE / IR era, most wagons of most types had no logo at all, just the number - there were a few exceptions, though, which got the "set of points" logo. As for the roundel, wagons were never top of the list for repaints, so just as some pre-1963 "flying snails" were to be seen on goods vans into the mid-70s, so the roundels were to be seen, ever more grubby and faded (as reproduced on one variant of the IRM fert wagon) into the 1990s. As for the exact date of the exact last one, probably impossible to tell. I do recall seeing a fertiliser train just at the end of the period in which they ran. Only two wagons in the train had any logo at all, as per the norm by then, but two had very badly worn CIE "roundels", one barely visible at all.

Indeed; that's something! From when railways opened until the 1970s, the highly visible station signs with the name in large plain letters was deemed good enough - and it was. As others have mentioned, it's all about idiots with drawing pens and "creative" ideas now, screwing vast sums out of public companies for.....a change of font and colour. Must be high time that IE changed their logo again. The "chequered flag" one has now been in use for over a year! OK, that actually may make a bit of sense.......provided they keep it for a good while! That's why both the "flying snail" and CIE "roundel" became so instantly recognisable - each was in use for well over twenty years. Exactly!

These things, plus their Midland equivalents, are an absolutely vital part of the pre-1963 scene on CIE. As late as 1962, several branch lines still featured them regularly, and even then sometime almost exclusively. Several of the full brake version (not any passenger-carrying ones) survived until 1968/9 and were thus the only six-wheelers (bar the "tin vans") to find their way into the black'n'tan livery. Those last four seem to have mostly turned up by that stage on the up and down Galway passenger / mail trains. Downpatrick has one of them, now rebuilt into a brake first saloon, No. 69. It's great to see these coaches being put together - better still to see growing interest in the CIE "grey'n'green" era, with ready to run "A" class locos imminent, plus of course the grey 121s. Hopefully more to come from these very interesting times, when the old traditional steam railway, with mixed goods trains, six-wheeled carriages, wooden stock (passenger AND goods) the norm - gradually morphed into the then very modern world of laminates, Cravens and diesel locomotives.

They seem to change the whole lot every few months nowadays. Would investing in Limerick - Waterford services not be a better use of money, along with a Foynes - Limerick - Athenry - Claremorris - Westport passenger service? Bit of a difference in price, of course, but every step in the right direction is good..............

Very, true, very serious and very disgraceful!