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Absolutely superb looking!

To stick to my original point, rather than appearing to concentrate on Silverfox themselves (which I didn't intend to), with regard to colours, yes, the option is always there to repaint. The thing I generally try to concentrate on is purely to share information re what is a correct appearance for something, what's a not-too-bad compromise, and what is not prototypical. The "12 ins to the foot scale" preservation world and the model world, unfortunately, abound with liveries which are not accurate, or ones that were never carried, or both. That's fine in two senses: (a) if it's full size, no bystander has any right to just criticise the efforts of volunteers who give up their free time to restore something, and (b) the modeller - who, at the end of the day, is entitled to do exactly what he wants with his own layout, which is none of anyone else's business! Personally, I've been in both camps. But I think it's important that all concerned at least know what something actually did look like in use, otherwise incorrect versions seen on preserved things and models enter folklore as the assumption of what things did look like..... I would reiterate my support for any manufacturer who enters the Irish market. Anyway; onwards and upwards!

You can still see quite a few of the GSR solid concrete block type here and there.

Ok, Dive...! Their reference to CIE / NIR "2600 class" is not right - the GNR, UTA and NIR never numbered them, or called them that.... Ok - first off - the UTA ones. Light grey roofs should be dark grey and valances at bottom were black, not green; though the UTA like NIR ran them without, ie with the engine showing. CIE green - the shade is wrong and the roofs are light grey again - should be black, though some might have the very front bit in green as discussed earlier. GNR - the blue is way too light, more like what they had on locomotives. It should be very dark blue, verging on navy; actual example may be seen on the Fintona Tram at Cultra. The lettering is the wrong colour and style. The black'n'tan version is fine, though lacking CIE logos on the sides. I know that for economy's sake, it's a "repaint" of a British railcar - fine - not everybody, unfortunately, can afford the more high class models, and it's good that Silverfox recognise this. But for any manufacturer, it's a shame to see something as absolutely elementary as the colour of something, poorly researched.... I'll trawl and post some photos later (just out of books - any "real" ones I can put my hand to are black and white). I'm truly and genuinely not on a rant about silverfox - I completely respect and support any manufacturer who enters the Irish market - hardly a business decision guaranteed to make them rich. In my day, Irish modelling meant paper overlays on Hornby Mk 1's! But just looking again at their site, their "G" class have livery errors too. Green G601: should have green chassis, not black. Silver version: silver roof, not black. Black, and black'n'tan versions: the white band is way too thick, and there should be a silver or white colour on the small strip of beading round the front of the bonnet. Overall, "tan" looks too orangey and probably is closer to the post-1990 shade. Having said that, I'll qualify it by saying that I haven't seen one of these "in the flesh".

Incidentally, on busy days railcars on the Letterkenny line took a well-earned rest and locomotives would be out in force. I'd love to see a pic behind the photographer that day to show what was on shed.....

Thanks, Broithe! Indeed, Minister! Up to 20 years ago, pictures taken from the top of signal post ladders by people without PTS, steel-capped boots or head-to-toe day-glo clothing were common. Not a single enthusiast ever appears to have died that way, therefore, irrespective of what current laws and H & S police say, in actual terms of fact, the practice was statistically as good as 100% safe; unlike actual travel by train, which despite being the safest form of travel there is, occasionally it has been known for passengers to die in an accident..... Now there's a statistic for ye!

Indeed, Broithe, but I'm too poor to afford one! Meanwhile, it was a busy day in Letterkenny (CDR) one fine day back in 1947..... (LLSR goods stock on right, nearest van lettered "L & B E R" for the Burtonport extension.

Above: GSR postcard. 1930s equivalent of "This is an auto-response for information only. Please do not reply to this email".... Below: both sides of what I think is an internal bus transfer. Finally, another unused transfer...... I think it's of DUTC origin.

I have four of these - they are original. The size can be ascertained from the flip-flop sandals at the bottom corners! Unused GSR coach transfer; the same would have been mounted on a board on the tenders of the 800 class.

I noticed on the Silverfox website that the rebuilt "A" class has full-height orange on the sides; this should be lower band only as per their model of a 101 in same livery. Their railcar liveries are all very wrong in some way or another.... Just saying......

That Bleach Green layout is absolutely fascinating.... love the 70 class whizzing past.....

Jimmy O'Dea took some nice shots of it about 1970. They can be seen online via the national library website.

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It's from the 33rd county - a place called Co. Netherlands. It's a good bit east of Co. Antrim.....

I know, Dive, I know...... That's why my house isn't currently on the market..... I do have an SSM kit for one, not yet made up though.

Good to see they've "travelled" to a good and safe home!

I believe the two at Downpatrick are ex-Mallow as well, Derailed. When the DCDR approached IE with regard to 90 and the SLNCR railcar, these came also, as part of the package. One is restorable, albeit (like 84M) a complete rebuild. The other, while outwardly appearing much the same, is in fact worse. However, the interesting thing about that one is that you can just about make out on one panel on one end, a bit of the short-lived dark blue "Tourist Express" livery. In an ideal world, I'd love to get funding to do those two plus the GNR six wheeler, and the two BCDR ones, as a "six wheel coach job lot"....!

Neat model, Colm. The Adams "Radial" tank, as initially pictured in this post, could with substantial remodelling of the side tanks be persuaded to represent a WLWR C5 class (as GSR designated them). There were but two, surviving until 1949 and 1957.

Yes, Colm, I had just randomly picked various odds and ends from Senior's stuff - which will take some time to sort and list. There are lists of locations and dates, but the accurate matching of these to actual photographs remains a work in progress.

Top class models!

Always thought that was a very elegant design..

"Senior" recalled a day at Kildare watching such things, and then getting the train back to Dublin. It was running very late and was headed by a J15 with a couple of bogies and a couple of six wheelers. It set sail for Kingsbridge and took off like the clappers. I can't put my hand at present to the timings, but the loco comfortably topped 60 on the way...... not what many would expect from a J15, but back in the day not unknown.

I'd love to see a RTR J15. I'll sell me house and buy 111 of them!

They were quite modernistic looking, Liverbird - hard to believe that their chassis were many years older!