Blaine

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http://www.modelrail-scotland.co.uk/index.html Well worth a visit, a smaller, friendlier version of Warley. Flights are also cheap from Ireland at present, given there is no Scotland vs Ireland Rugby that weekend. Friday is the cheapest day to fly and Glasgow International Airport is a short taxi/train run away http://www.secc.co.uk/attend/how-to-get-here.aspx The MRSI will be exhibiting with Baile Cois Farraige and Dun Ni Rian

Theres this in Drogheda http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=5752

And your the expert?

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Need more complications then, do we??? All well and good writing things down, but will it make more than you reach for their credit cards? I would dearly love to see a RTR high detail model of the 2 1/2 gauge locomotive that ran between Ballyboughan and Ballygobackwards between August 1927 and February 1931. This model has been over looked I feel and would be a popular choice among modellers given its well known popularity........

Unless you can stump up a 7 figure sum it wont happen overnight. You cant rush the development as it will result in mistakes. If it has a poor mechanism,poor electrics it wont go down well, never mind how it looks or its decoration Ive been closely watching several crowd funding campaigns, including those that have failed. Like everything there appears to be an initial flurry but it levels out and then is slower to the end or makes it. November is Warley time so that is a good time to launch a UK outline project as everyone is almost together in the same hall. The disadvantage is that its close to Christmas so people may hold back and then be skint in January http://www.ngaugependolino.com/ is currently at 30% with just under 8 weeks to go. Will be interesting to see what comes of this

Aha - you cant rely on this forum alone for a valid opinion of modellers out there.......

An Irish layout will be making the trip next year

There is no comparison...... The fact that people are paying €195 for a Silver Fox Sulzer B101, which is €20 dearer than a Murphys 201 says it all......

A stupid question deserves a stupid answer....

Why do MM have to be involved with everything now

Like I said the last time - No - Lima Mk2F or wait for the new Bachmann models to arrive

Funny cos its true - and they were €10 or €12 down in the kitty... Cant say I didnt try to support them at least

I would be prepared to make initial negotiations with manufacturers regarding a crowd sourced model. I cant see the initial costs being too high. These costs would purely be to get the kickstarter page running and a small website for information etc. The advantage being for either a 121 or an A/C there are still existing prototypes rather than relying on drawings.... Nothing will happen until sufficient funding has been gathered, that is of course if the required amount is met

Dont forget Hornby are suffering with supply and quality issues at present, Does not matter if you are the almost generic model railway brand and a well known company, if you drop the ball, someone else will quickly grab it and run away with it.... The 71 was crowdsourced (to prove the demand was there) whereas everything else by DJM was not. They had announced models that nobody else was planning - very surprised nobody had gone for a Class 59 and now DJM have. When Bachmann announced the Blue Pullman, Olivias Trains who were in the process of commissioning Heljan to make one, backed off... no point in 2 high quality versions of the same model. Cant see this happening with an Irish model though This is not only the problem with crowdfunding, but with wishlists....

The flipside of crowdfunding has revealed itself at Warley - Hornby have just announced their BR Class 71, after DJM sucessfully crowdfunded their model...

Yup - and if 1 person thinks it on here there are many more in the real world....... Still think the Cravens are the best models MM have ever done (personally of course)

Any intention to get this back in 2015? The realist in my says no. My abiding memory of this is my pal showing an 'admit 1' pass, me reaching for my wallet and being told 'ah sure gwan in'

Whats interesting there is the amounts of money that people are giving. Not even 1/4 of the way there yet, but this might change after Warley this weekend. Will be interesting if the target is reached....

Hence it not appearing. You have to spend money to make money....

Perhaps - but several people have indicated on here that they wont buy it unless its done by MM, talk about gullible.

They still would not pay - in the words of Homer J Simpson - 'Why cant someone else do it' Complete muck, does not look right at all and overpriced - yet people buy them....... Pity people wont vote with their feet like they did with several of Heljan and Bachmanns offerings

A class has 2 variants (shells) - pre/post rebuilding and 3 liveries for each (6 liveries; Silver,Green,Black,Black/Tan,Supertrain,IR), 2 numbers for each model - 12 models C class has 2 variants (shells) - pre/post rebuilding and 3 liveries for each (6 liveries; Silver,Green,Black,Black/Tan,Supertrain,NIR), 2 numbers for each model - 12 models 121 - depends how realistic you want your model to be, as delivered condition is quite different to black/tan with all the modifications that went on. The 121's initially ran with no walk way handrails among other things. 2 variants with 5 liveries; Grey/Yellow,Black/Tan,Supertrain,IR,IE, 2 of each - 10 models. All would be motorised too, DCC allows double heading, or decent analogue controllers. Nobody moaned about all the 141/181's being motorised when they frequently ran as pairs. Will your crowdfunding get you 1 model (variant) or 2? Also if 200 people on here are mad keen for it, yet a batch of 200 MM 071's are struggling to leave the shelves, this forum is not an indication of the demographic... Its why, as already stated the Murphys 121 model is pending, and will continue to for a while....

Given that sales of Murphy models have slowed right down over the last 12 months - doubtful. Also everyone would say 'ah yeah Ill have one' yet you would need a large set of boltcutters to open their wallets.... Saying it like it is, also if it was for A/C's you would need 2 mouldings for each, (pre/post rebuild), the plus side being there would be 6 mainstream liveries for each model, then theres the small variants