The thingmagig on the headlight of 141.

[enniscorthyman]

I have ment to ask what was that thingmagig on the headlight

Of the 141/181s mostly in CIE livery.It looked like a curved pipe

and I had often seen them on the Rosslare line mostly in the 70s

and 80s.

[ttc0169]

I have ment to ask what was that thingmagig on the headlight

Of the 141/181s mostly in CIE livery.It looked like a curved pipe

and I had often seen them on the Rosslare line mostly in the 70s

and 80s.

 

Eamonn,the curved section of the headlight that were fitted to some of the 141/181 locos were used when the locos operated any cross border services,

If in the event of any delay or potential hijack to the train,then it was easily identified from an army helicopter overhead as the headlight beam would shine upwards.

I think there were possibly six locos that were fitted,not sure of the numbers.

[Dave]

Eamonn,the curved section of the headlight that were fitted to some of the 141/181 locos were used when the locos operated any cross border services,

If in the event of any delay or potential hijack to the train,then it was easily identified from an army helicopter overhead as the headlight beam would shine upwards.

I think there were possibly six locos that were fitted,not sure of the numbers.

 

You learn something new every day

[Broithe]

We discussed this a while back - http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/459-Upturned-Head-light?highlight=headlight+helicopter

 

Pay attention at the back or you'll be staying behind..!

[enniscorthyman]

We discussed this a while back - http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/459-Upturned-Head-light?highlight=headlight+helicopter

 

Pay attention at the back or you'll be staying behind..!

God I do need to pay attention,and how did I miss that

before?.Doh.

[Sulzer201]

I found that thread interesting before as I too had wondered what these were. Did any of the As, Hunslets, or big GMs carry the same type of modification when running on cross-border links?

[ttc0169]

Did any of the As, Hunslets, or big GMs carry the same type of modification when running on cross-border links?

 

No-as the majority of freight services were worked by the 141/181s locos,the modification was only done to a small number of them.

[Sulzer201]

Thanks ttc, I suspected same.

[Flying Scotsman 4472]

 

No-as the majority of freight services were worked by the 141/181s locos,the modification was only done to a small number of them.

 

 

 

Noel have NIR locos ever hauled cross boarder freight I don't ever remember seeing any.

[Eiretrains]

Noel have NIR locos ever hauled cross boarder freight I don't ever remember seeing any.

In the mid-late 1990s 112 (and possibly the others) hauled freight, usually liner trains of containers and fertiliser between Dundalk and Belfast, but I do not think they worked all the way from Dublin, just took over/or off the trains at Dundalk.

[Flying Scotsman 4472]

In the mid-late 1990s 112 (and possibly the others) hauled freight, usually liner trains of containers and fertiliser between Dundalk and Belfast, but I do not think they worked all the way from Dublin, just took over/or off the trains at Dundalk.

 

 

Would you have any photos of them working those trains on that stretch of line in that great collection for yours

[Eiretrains]

Would you have any photos of them working those trains on that stretch of line in that great collection for yours

I'm afraid not, too young to be around in those days(!), the lack of photos though might suggest the workings were not frequent.

[Flying Scotsman 4472]

I'm afraid not, too young to be around in those days(!),

 

 

Now your making me feel old

[heirflick]

We discussed this a while back - http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/459-Upturned-Head-light?highlight=headlight+helicopter

 

Pay attention at the back or you'll be staying behind..!

 

broithe......Вы vilnious учителя!

[jhb171achill]

That's correct, eiretrains. And even then it was a very rare occurrence. Almost always pairs of 121/141/181.

[jhb171achill]

Excellent memories. I remember once seeing seven locos in Adelaide. 133 and 135 had brought the cement in, a pair of 141s was on the other goods, a single one had taken over shunting due to one of Hunslet 102's long absences, and another pair of 141s was sitting to one side, I think having failed... memories! Naturally, I didn't have a camera as I was on my way to work...

[Mol_PMB]

I was going to ask this question but found it had been answered already, over a decade ago.

Here are two of my photos showing 155 and 158 with the modification, but at Limerick so nowhere near the border. I recall 156 having it (also seen at Limerick), and a quick search online also found pics of 154 and 159 with the modification.

 

[Blaine]

[Galteemore]

Most interesting. Not the first time railways and air power have interacted in Ireland. In 1920-21, British troop trains carried roof markings to facilitate protection by RAF escort. At least one IRA unit was dissuaded from attacking a train in consequence. 

[Mol_PMB]

A nice closeup side view of the headlights on 156, in this photo from Jonathan Allen:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/46038979472/in/album-72177720295641846

I also found a photo of 160 so fitted. So at least the following 7 locos:

002, 154, 155, 156, 158, 159, 160.