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A 3d printed 800 class for 00 (and a WLWR goods loco)

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On 28/6/2024 at 9:25 PM, Metrovik said:

Any news on the WLWR loco? The 800s are far too big for my little branchline.

Although it is looking VERY good.

WLWR a bit away from my setting, but honestly I'd love one too. What chassis is it made for?

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30 minutes ago, LNERW1 said:

WLWR a bit away from my setting, but honestly I'd love one too. What chassis is it made for?

Oxford Dean Goods, which is within 1mm of the prototype wheelbase and perfect wheel diameter, the wires connecting the tender pickups to the loco will need to be soldered together to enable it to run without the tender

The 800 class is officially finished awaiting the first test print

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Thanks very much all! truly praise from Caesar

The surface finish in person is significantly better than the last sample, however there were some unfortunate marks on the boiler and smokebox which are down to the printer having to be cleaned out, as well as a small hole in the running board on the front right side

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I am particularly pleased with the way the M2.5 nut is held, it goes in this little trough as shown, the model is tipped forward to line it up with the hole, and then the chassis can be inserted, and the original mounting hole used

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26 minutes ago, Killian Keane said:

I am particularly pleased with the way the M2.5 nut is held, it goes in this little trough as shown, the model is tipped forward to line it up with the hole, and then the chassis can be inserted, and the original mounting hole used

Very elegant solution 👏👏👏

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30 minutes ago, Killian Keane said:

The last piece in the 800 class puzzle, the smokebox handwheel

 

 

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There is a piece that the carpet monster will eat in short order should you drop it !

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On 12/8/2024 at 4:19 PM, LNERW1 said:

WLWR a bit away from my setting, but honestly I'd love one too. What chassis is it made for?

Post-amalgamation, a few WLWR engines wandered well away from home territory. One 2.4.0 spent years based in Wexford, while two others if the class (291 & 293) were regulars on the Loughrea branch between the early 1930s and the mid-50s.

One of their tank engines was to be seen in Wisht Cork too.

So, a prototype for many things!

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24 minutes ago, Killian Keane said:

The 2-4-0s (GSR class G3) were very nice engines, first built 1889 last withdrawn 1959. They're a strong contender for my next project after the 0-6-0 is finished

 

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Very attractive and purposeful indeed. Something of the GER 2-4-0 about them. Ideal candidate for 3D - those splashers would be ‘fun’ to scratch build ….image courtesy Science Museum 

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26 minutes ago, Killian Keane said:

The 2-4-0s (GSR class G3) were very nice engines, first built 1889 last withdrawn 1959. They're a strong contender for my next project after the 0-6-0 is finished

 

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Any idea where that picture was taken?

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2 hours ago, Galteemore said:

Very attractive and purposeful indeed. Something of the GER 2-4-0 about them. Ideal candidate for 3D - those splashers would be ‘fun’ to scratch build ….image courtesy Science Museum 

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Possibly a next for Accurascale after their GER Buck or J67 0-6-0T https://www.accurascale.nz/collections/j67-j68-j69  Reasonably close in general outline to the ex-WLWR locos though driving wheels slightly smaller

Holden's GER and Robinson's WLWR 2-4-0s may have been inspired by GWR standard gauge inside cylinder locos https://www.rmweb.co.uk/blogs/entry/26156-2-4-0s-and-the-armstrong-era-in-particular/

Holden was chief assistant to William Dean before moving to the GER and Robinson served his apprenticeship at Swindon under Joseph Armstrong before his eventual move to Limerick. 

Its been commented that Robinson's 2-4-0s resemble Armstrong's standard gauge GWR 2-4-0s. 

Perhaps some of the British Outline RTR commissioners may be tempted to bring out a GWR Armstrong or GER 2-4-0, Hornby having produced a Y14 (J15) 0-6-0 and Oxford a GWR Dean Goods. Failing that a generic GWR/GER/Irish 2-4-0 on similar principals to the Hattons 6 Wheelers and Evolution coaches allowing for variations in cab, boiler fittings and tender bodies.

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4 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Any idea where that picture was taken?

Ciaran Cooney on Twitter reckons its a southbound Athenry-Limerick working seen at Ennis with the WCR lines in the background

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10 minutes ago, Killian Keane said:

Ciaran Cooney on Twitter reckons its a southbound Athenry-Limerick working seen at Ennis with the WCR lines in the background

I wasn’t entirely convinced those tracks were narrow gauge in the background, but very possible; and Ciarán’s knowledge of locations is absolutely encyclopaedic!

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4 hours ago, Mayner said:

Possibly a next for Accurascale after their GER Buck or J67 0-6-0T https://www.accurascale.nz/collections/j67-j68-j69  Reasonably close in general outline to the ex-WLWR locos though driving wheels slightly smaller

Holden's GER and Robinson's WLWR 2-4-0s may have been inspired by GWR standard gauge inside cylinder locos https://www.rmweb.co.uk/blogs/entry/26156-2-4-0s-and-the-armstrong-era-in-particular/

Holden was chief assistant to William Dean before moving to the GER and Robinson served his apprenticeship at Swindon under Joseph Armstrong before his eventual move to Limerick. 

Its been commented that Robinson's 2-4-0s resemble Armstrong's standard gauge GWR 2-4-0s. 

Perhaps some of the British Outline RTR commissioners may be tempted to bring out a GWR Armstrong or GER 2-4-0, Hornby having produced a Y14 (J15) 0-6-0 and Oxford a GWR Dean Goods. Failing that a generic GWR/GER/Irish 2-4-0 on similar principals to the Hattons 6 Wheelers and Evolution coaches allowing for variations in cab, boiler fittings and tender bodies.

In a rather charming, deliberately retro, project a few years ago, Chris Leigh changed a Dean Goods into a 2-4-0 as used on the Lambourn branch. Image from Model Rail. The idea of a generic 2-4-0 is quite plausible! Image by J F Russell-Smith. This one below, of course is an ex MSJWR one which has been Swindonised….IMG_2836.webp.3cf396148e3efdd296a98b9775f41b80.webp

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10 hours ago, Killian Keane said:

The 2-4-0s (GSR class G3) were very nice engines, first built 1889 last withdrawn 1959. They're a strong contender for my next project after the 0-6-0 is finished

 

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Absolute beauties when turned out in WL&WR crimson lake and brass.

On a side note, I wonder what's driving the current resurgence in interest in the colourful pre grouping scene in uk? Seems to go against the modelling what one remembers convention.

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10 hours ago, Killian Keane said:

The 2-4-0s (GSR class G3) were very nice engines, first built 1889 last withdrawn 1959. They're a strong contender for my next project after the 0-6-0 is finished

 

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Quite a strong family resemblance between Robinsons WLWR 2-4-0s and the GWR Armstrong & Dean 2-4-0s

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c1900: GWR 3235

 

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It’s an odd one. Also odd are the quirky things released like Fell and gas turbine locos. I think part of it may be due to the fact that no one under 65 can remember steam in operation - except in the preservation world. So many people can actually now recall seeing steam locos in glorious liveries with pre-grouping stock eg Bluebell. I also suspect postmodernism has something to do with it…..

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28 minutes ago, Mayner said:

Quite a strong family resemblance between Robinsons WLWR 2-4-0s and the GWR Armstrong & Dean 2-4-0s

c1900: GWR 3235

 

This one is available as a Finney kit from Brassmasters. Would be an expensive way of testing the theory.....

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57 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

It’s an odd one. Also odd are the quirky things released like Fell and gas turbine locos. I think part of it may be due to the fact that no one under 65 can remember steam in operation - except in the preservation world. So many people can actually now recall seeing steam locos in glorious liveries with pre-grouping stock eg Bluebell. I also suspect postmodernism has something to do with it…..

I suspect the release of pre-group rtr and oddities like the Fell & gas turbines has become viable as a result of a combination of the sheer size of the 4mm British Outline market and the preparedness of some of the Chinese factories to produce manufacture small (1000+) commissions of a particular model.

I think a persons age may also be a factor in their modelling taste many people start out intending to model the rail scene of their formative years and move onto different eras as they get older interests change.

As a teenager I wanted to model the GWR steam era because of magazine coverage before I moved on to the contemporary CIE scene as I joined the IRRS and explored the railway network in my late teens. I became interested in modelling CIE in the steam era during my 20s and began to develop an interest in American Railroads in my 30s.

Gone back to modelling the GSR in the late 20s-30s possibly because the locos appeared cleaner and the railway looked less run down that the CIE/IE era that I recall and the challenge for me of finishing a loco or coach in the elaborate lined out MGWR or GSWR liveries.

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33 minutes ago, Mayner said:

... the preparedness of some of the Chinese factories to produce manufacture small (1000+) commissions of a particular model.....

1000+ isn't small, when you remember that Bachmann batches are 502/504 at a time.

A small batch would be more like 250 plus spares (if such support is being made available).

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2 hours ago, Mayner said:

Quite a strong family resemblance between Robinsons WLWR 2-4-0s and the GWR Armstrong & Dean 2-4-0s

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c1900: GWR 3235

 

Biggest obvious difference is the tenders - easily dealt with.

I have detailed livery info somewhere for WLWR maroon livery…. though it would have been gone not long after 1900, when the GSWR’s lined black took over for a decade and a bit before they became all-grey for the rest of their lives.

I’d be strongly tempted to get a British one and paint it grey….

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38 minutes ago, Colin R said:

if you are up for a challenger you could buy one of these image.jpeg.8661bad250de905be3adc57e7adf15e6.jpeg

when you said challenger I was thinking of something a bit bigger!

 

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