BosKonay Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Just came across this http://www.diesel-trains.co.uk/shop.html Specifically this one, suitable for the Lima 201 for just £12.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Tried one, some improvement but I didn't rush out to buy more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Not worth the effort? I've heard mixed reviews of the model torque too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's basically the same sort of motor you would find in a CD drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Modeltorque and that one are identical. I have remotored two 201s, a few class 50's, and a bunch of other locos. No difference whatsover, and if you like the grumbling of a ringfield and complete inability for a soft start, go for it. Personnally i love the nostalgia factor, but i think others who run locos to a dcc standard will see it as a wasted investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 I guess the Limas are heading for the shelf so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 God the Lima 201s drove me soft with poor running,but they could run ok with wheel cleaning and plenty of running in.I was thinking of the Model Torque remotoring option before the new Murphy 201 came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulzer201 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Is it worth putting a donor chassis under the old 201s, and what is a suitable co co chassis for one? I'm amazed at the prices some of those old Lima 201 and 2xcarriage sets fetch - when you think of the amazing running of the Murphys 201s and fantastic Mark IIs now available? Each to his/her own I suppose - you spend your money and make your choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 I guess boxed sets like the one on ebay at the moment are selling purely to collectors. I've probably got 6 'running' Limas, as opposed to the boxed mint ones, which have been weathered, detailed, etc, some even have DCC chips installed on the old Lima motors. they still sound like tractors, but look good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I got rid of all my Lima 201s,mainly as I wanted to sound chip one and the Murphy new 201,and so handy to stick a bass reflex speaker in. I did have a look at Toms(River Suir) MIR 201 with a Class 66 chasssis and she was a super runner and very smooth.I dont know if anyone stuck a 66 chassis under a Lima 201. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I have a Lima 201 in stock and have been thinking of a few ways of remotoring and detailing. Will add it to a workbench thread when I (hopefully) get around to it later this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 They 'scrub up well' with a little work, though the underframes are incredibly basic compared to Paddys work. We're just so spoiled these days with so many top-notch RTR diesels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 This is where US diesel drivetrains could help.... *coughs discreetly* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 This is where US diesel drivetrains could help.... *coughs discreetly* If you had a blue box Alco PA I would've logged onto Paypal again. Mind you that is for a separate future project... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 If you had a blue box Alco PA I would've logged onto Paypal again. Mind you that is for a separate future project... Oddly enough......oh wait, hang on.....up to my eyes in SD90s.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) I got rid of all my Lima 201s,mainly as I wanted to sound chip one andthe Murphy new 201,and so handy to stick a bass reflex speaker in. I did have a look at Toms(River Suir) MIR 201 with a Class 66 chasssis and she was a super runner and very smooth.I dont know if anyone stuck a 66 chassis under a Lima 201. I ve lima 219 remotored with a Bachmann cl 66 chassis as well, she's numbered as 202 these days;).To get the 66 chassis to fit the lima involves quite a bit of work, the lads in the mrsi built a maxed out one with loads of extra details a few years back. The main problem with any remotoring job on the 201 is the bogies and the wheel spacings, the bachmann bogie is a lot more bulky than the Murphy lima or new 201 version. Edited January 5, 2014 by Riversuir226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I ve lima 219 remotored with a Bachmann cl 66 chassis as well, she's numbered as 202 these days;).To get the 66 chassis to fit the lima involves quite a bit of work, the lads in the mrsi built a maxed out one with loads of extra details a few years back. The main problem with any remotoring job on the 201 is the bogies and the wheel spacings, the bachmann bogie is a lot more bulky than the Murphy lima or new 201 version. Any advice Tom on the conversion. I know from your work bench you did a MIR 201 conversion but would welcome any advice on the Lima one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) I done the lima conversion slightly different than the mir's. I kept one end of the bachmann chassis as is and scratchbuilt a new buffer beam plus skirts for the other end. The end that's not used needs to be cut back slightly at a point just inside the bufferbeam. I also dismantled the bachmann fuel tanks and scratchbuilt a new fuel tank etc using a later murphys 201 as a reference. Edited January 6, 2014 by Riversuir226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Sounds like lovely work Riversuir! Any chance of a photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Sounds like lovely work Riversuir! Any chance of a photo? Yes please Tom, a picture is worth a thousand ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 No problem, I ll upload some pics later be warned though it's from my early days of modifying locos!!!!!, maybe a little upgrade may be in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barl Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I dont know if anyone stuck a 66 chassis under a Lima 201. I put a 66 under my Lima 219 a while back also. I think I had some pics up on the old site but I stuck in a few below. I added lights and an SSM detail kit when I was at it and I think it scrubbed up fairly well If anyone wants more advice or pics I'll do my best to help! Next to her newer Murphy's sister! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Hmm i think a call to the old reliable is in order!!!! [ATTACH=CONFIG]11253[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]11254[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]11255[/ATTACH] Edited January 8, 2014 by BosKonay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Thanks for the pics Barl. Tom, can't open your attachments, can you revisit please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Hmm i think a call to the old reliable is in order!!!![ATTACH=CONFIG]11253[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]11254[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]11255[/ATTACH] "Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Is this better she ll be heading to the workbench for a repaint at least and a little detailing after seen these pics:( Un abused end Front end cut back just behind the buffer and an attempt at solving the bogies:SORRY: Early attempt at detailing!!! Edited January 8, 2014 by Riversuir226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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enniscorthyman Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Great stuff Tom,I always loved the MIR 201 that you brought up to me for a gawk,super runner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Thanks Tom, this conversion is now on my List of Things To Do -2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 That looks really well worth the effort Tom and well executed also. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Train model Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 You could always cut the Lima 201 in half and make a dvt for the enterprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 We're spoiled with Paddy's work, but with a little attention the old limas scrub up well ! Here's 217 on the old layout.. She'll still have a place on Amiens, tho probably it will be on a 'sound barrier' line than in active service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 You could always cut the Lima 201 in half and make a dvt for the enterprise Sacrilege!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Having looked at Stephen's pic of 217 is it just me or does the original 201 livery look more authentic colour wise on the Lima model, as opposed to the newer MM version. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I do think the livery on the Limas, colour wise is more accurate than the Murphys 201s. The orange is just too light, it's about 4 shades above the yellow bands on the cabs imo. The yellow face orange 201s have it spot on though as they had a much richer shade than when they were delivery new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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