minister_for_hardship Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Well? http://www.mremag.com/sites/10/images/article_images_month/2013-03/bb25a.jpg http://www.spellerweb.net/rhindex/Ireland/GreatSouthern/LoughDerg.jpg Quote
jhb171achill Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Excellent! Ideal for a line based on Tralee - Limerick - Collooney, or Limerick - Waterford. Model of Birdhill - Killaloe, anyone? Overall roof an' all..... Rework the cab "window", file off the coal bunker rails, dip it in a pot if grey paint, and away you go. Better still, fully lined WLWR maroon.... Quote
BosKonay Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 For anyone interested, the model is Bachmann Branchline 31-166 Class 5 L&YR 2-4-2T 50636 in BR lined black early emblem And retails for about £75 Quote
Weshty Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Better still, fully lined WLWR maroon.... Did someone say lining???? Quote
heirflick Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 For anyone interested, the model is Bachmann Branchline 31-166 Class 5 L&YR 2-4-2T 50636 in BR lined black early emblem And retails for about £75 dcc ready or on board offered! Quote
Broithe Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 dcc ready or on board offered! 6-pin socket - http://www.ehattons.com/52540/Bachmann_Branchline_31_166_Class_5_L_YR_2_4_2T_50636_in_BR_lined_black_early_emblem/StockDetail.aspx Quote
Kirley Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 No one has mentioned what Class the Irish loco is, would it be close to GSR Class 491? Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted June 4, 2014 Author Posted June 4, 2014 No one has mentioned what Class the Irish loco is, would it be close to GSR Class 491? Either GSR class 267 or 491. Even though they were sisters, the GSR put them in two different classes. Quote
jhb171achill Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Correct, minister. One class ex WLWR, one Macroom. In the middle of a house move, that's all that memory tells me, and I can't look up where they ended up due to all my "stuff" being in storage! Quote
David Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 It's also very similar to a GNRI JT class if you made a new cab for it. Quote
Warbonnet Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 It's also very similar to a GNRI JT class if you made a new cab for it. Was thinking similar myself. There's a shapeways body for the JT class available too. Wonder if the Bachmann tank would be suitable as a chassis donor? Think'd I'd have a bash sorting the cab out instead to guarantee a nicer finish. Quote
Dunluce Castle Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 I have seen the JT class on shapeways as well, but I don't really like the finish that 3d printing gives, so I didn't buy it, there is also the chassis on shapeways for the body. Quote
Dunluce Castle Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Here's a link to it, http://www.shapeways.com/model/934389/4mm-scale-gnri-jt-tank-body-shell-16-5mm-gauge.html?modelId=934389&materialId=6 Although you will need to buy your own dome, chimney, buffers etc... Quote
jhb171achill Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 I've seen a very convincing NCC 4.4.0 made out of an (English) Midland Railway 4.4.0, and a reasonable approximation of a "Jeep" out of an LMS equivalent.... An LNER 0.6.0 can be reasonably made to look like a GSWR J15 or a MGWR J18. Quote
Warbonnet Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 I have seen the JT class on shapeways as well, but I don't really like the finish that 3d printing gives, so I didn't buy it, there is also the chassis on shapeways for the body. Someone on RMWeb took a stab at it. I'm with you on the finish http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/57282-3d-printed-models-glr-3d-model-design/ Quote
Dunluce Castle Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 To be honest the final finish that he got looked rather good, although I guess a lot of filling and filling was needed. Quote
Mayner Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 How about Irelands largest class of 2-4-2T GSR F1 & 2? Large choice of livery DSER lined black, GSR Gray, CIE lined green worked Dublin suburban trains from the early 1900s to the 1950s, one seems to have been a long term resident on the West Cork another loaned to the BCDR during the Second World War. Quote
Old Blarney Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Colm Flannigan. The above mentioned Gentleman has manufactured two locomotives for me from UK Models. Colm, can you add details if required please! NCC No 4 from an LMS Hornby Parallel Boiler Loco. GNR No 85 from a Hornby Schools. Both models will be available for inspection at Perth Model Railway Exhibition (In cabinets in entrance forum) and at Falkirk Model Railway Show where Old Blarney will be exhibited-- weather permitting. (it is held in November). Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted June 4, 2014 Author Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) Correct, minister. One class ex WLWR, one Macroom. In the middle of a house move, that's all that memory tells me, and I can't look up where they ended up due to all my "stuff" being in storage! Both started life as WL&WR Robinson locos (named Derry Castle/Lough Derg)....not sure about converting to DSER locos, far more bodging to be done around tanks and look less graceful to my eye than the L&Y/WL&WR ones. On the con side, there were only 2 and didn't survive into CIE days. Edited June 4, 2014 by minister_for_hardship Quote
Broithe Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 Right, you lot have just cost me seventy quid! A bit of cutting and a slap of grey paint sounds like a fair plan to me... Quote
Glenderg Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 Right, you lot have just cost me seventy quid! A bit of cutting and a slap of grey paint sounds like a fair plan to me... [ATTACH=CONFIG]13531[/ATTACH] Looking forward to your workbench thread Broithe. At least we'll be garaunteed plenty pics.... R Quote
Broithe Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 Looking forward to your workbench thread Broithe. At least we'll be garaunteed plenty pics.... R Eh, what - have I actually got to do something...? Quote
Richard EH Posted June 6, 2014 Posted June 6, 2014 Hi all, Glad the JT seems to have been well received via the thread on RMWEB. It's my design on shapeways, and my build on RMWEB. The loco has plasticard overlays on the tanks with all of the rivet detail. The WSF material finish actually helps with this, as it gives something for the superglue to key into. It actually has a 3d printed chassis, as well as 3d printed - brass - connecting rods. Runs very nicely. I've another under construction at present, No.93, however it's on a bit of a back burner at present due to other projects. I decided not to print the chimney, dome, smokebox etc, as there are better brass castings available elsewhere to complete. I can list these if anyone is particularly interesting. I think the L & Y tank may not work well as a surrogate JT. The JT is actually quite a short loco, whilst the L& Y one seems quite a bit longer. Regards Richard. Quote
heirflick Posted June 6, 2014 Posted June 6, 2014 Eh, what - have I actually got to do something...? youre going to tell us that you have no tools:rolleyes: Quote
Dunluce Castle Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 BCDR anyone? Looks really good. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/86650-ly-to-bcdr/ Quote
heirflick Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 on close observation of her lads, she is quite a beautiful loco...... must get one! Quote
Warbonnet Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 they are a beauty Shem, been tempted by one myself. Quote
Dunluce Castle Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 I've got the LMS liveried one and it is amazing, the slow running and high level of detail makes £70 a real bargin. Quote
Mayner Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 Personally the standard of finish on current rtr British models is so high I would be loath to re-painting or modifying a current Hornby or Bachmann loco into an Irish model. I think it would be a bit like re=painting a Heljan Class 26 or 33 in CIE colours and calling it an A Class. Apart from the Jinty & Woolwich and a few industrials none of the Irish locos were really close enough to a British Mainland design to use a rtr model or kit without major modification. Although I am more inclined to scratchbuild I would have less qualms about using a second hand model or a kit, the old GEM LNWR 2-4-2T show up on E-Bay the DSER used the 4'6" version the 5'6" tank looks very close to the WLWR/CMDR locos http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GEM-WEBB-LNWR-LMS-2-4-2T-Locomotive-OO-Gauge-/321427013942?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4ad68b0136 Quote
colmflanagan Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 Since Bachmann first announced this model in 2012, I wondered about the possibility of doing a "Northern Irish" model, as that is my thing. The Belfast & County Down Railway had a number of 2-4-2 tanks and a larger number of 4-4-2s. To cut a long story short the model is too big for the 2-4-2 but about the right size for the 4-4-2 locos (but has one very obvious difference - it isn't actually a 4-4-2!!) For all that, I wondered if might pass muster as a sort of "amalgam" of the two, and recently did a repaint and slight modification to one, just to see if had a "County Down" look. The result is below; (the coaches are by Bachmann from their US "Thomas range"). I've built a couple of other B&CDR 4-4-2s from kits but they can't be easily made from any r-t-r so far produced. This would be the closest so far. It might be possible to use the Bachmann mechanism (which, as others have pointed out, is a lovely runner) as the basis for a more or less scratch built 4-4-2 body etc., but that's another story altogether. Colm Flanagan Quote
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