Weshty Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 I'm just wondering. I know they all spent some time in black - or most of them anyway; but did any (in the sixties, of course) get the yellow end panels that was on some A and C class? I don't recall seeing any like this - I'm pretty sure none did, but I could be wrong. The A class had yellow ends alright, Barry Carse's book shows this, but in all my research on the Sulzer project, nope, no yellow ends. Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Very disappointed with the mods here A bit of banter and out comes the big strap No one was complaining and its great to see a lively bit of crack on the site But Oh No, we must talk about the different shades of grey on non existent locos and what colour brown to put on our H Vans Lighten up for Jebus sake, its nearly Christmas Quote
Garfield Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Very disappointed with the mods hereA bit of banter and out comes the big strap No one was complaining and its great to see a lively bit of crack on the site But Oh No, we must talk about the different shades of grey on non existent locos and what colour brown to put on our H Vans Lighten up for Jebus sake, its nearly Christmas No one was complaining? My inbox says otherwise, Dave. Quote
GSR 800 Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Very disappointed with the mods hereA bit of banter and out comes the big strap No one was complaining and its great to see a lively bit of crack on the site But Oh No, we must talk about the different shades of grey on non existent locos and what color brown to put on our H Vans Lighten up for JeSus sake, its nearly Christmas sounds like the GSR era all over again! Pure boring. the GSR battleship grey was a dark shade of grey,all locos exept the 800s were completly grey exept the buffer beam,the wagon grey was significantly lighter, but just as boring... Quote
jhb171achill Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 On behalf of the Rivet Counting Militia, I hereby issue a fatwa against the Grey Militia. See ye in the IRRS tonight. Quote
jhb171achill Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Actually, if the mods will forgive one slight divergence from the thread, there was a good reason why dull colours and dark shades were favoured by railway companies in the past. First, grey and black paint were cheaper. Secondly, how long would an orange-roofed coach or a silver-grey ICR stay clean, let alone a raspberry ripple DD coach, with a steam engine up front, and larger stations full of them? Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Bar him Garfield, he's at it again!!!!! Quote
GSR 800 Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Actually, if the mods will forgive one slight divergence from the thread, there was a good reason why dull colours and dark shades were favoured by railway companies in the past. First, grey and black paint were cheaper. Secondly, how long would an orange-roofed coach or a silver-grey ICR stay clean, let alone a raspberry ripple DD coach, with a steam engine up front, and larger stations full of them? Did the GSR ever wash their coaches John? Quote
Garfield Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Bar him Garfield, he's at it again!!!!! Yer only mad for a fight, Dave. Quote
GSR 800 Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 On behalf of the Rivet Counting Militia, I hereby issue a fatwa against the Grey Militia. See ye in the IRRS tonight. to quote(badly)sminky shorts, WHICH ONE AM I? WHICH ONE AM I! Quote
jhb171achill Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 GSR, you're scarier still. The CEO of the 400 class Mafia! The GSR actually kept their carriages very well, as did most railway companies back then. However, that meant washing, not always repainting! Often paint on carriages was badly faded and worn before they saw a paintbrush again. The constantly poverty-stricken SLNCR was probably an extreme case! Quote
GSR 800 Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 GSR, you're scarier still. The CEO of the 400 class Mafia! The GSR actually kept their carriages very well, as did most railway companies back then. However, that meant washing, not always repainting! Often paint on carriages was badly faded and worn before they saw a paintbrush again. The constantly poverty-stricken SLNCR was probably an extreme case! Vhat are you talking about 400 class beumont? Youd think by now you would know im i commited 800 man! Get im boys! Quote
jhb171achill Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Ye will never find me, Harry. I didn't say WHAT part of the IRRS I'd be in..... To go back to the thread - roughly what's the cost of the Sulzer body PLUS a suitable chassis (class 55, for example)? Edited December 15, 2015 by jhb171achill Quote
GSR 800 Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Ye will never find me, Harry. I didn't say WHAT part of the IRRS I'd be in..... Well John you might be waiting a while anyway, getting a 70 year, 100 ton locomotive steamed up will take a while, getting out of cultra would be another,.. go to the shops for some coal and water(Ballygowan of course) might run in to whitehead as well to borrow a few snail transfers...would ye stay there till Monday? you wouldnt be that hard to find.. Quote
GSR 800 Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 To go back to the thread - roughly what's the cost of the Sulzer body PLUS a suitable chassis (class 55, for example)? im sure they would go for a reasonable price on fleabay.. Quote
GSR 800 Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Hornby-R2879-Class-55-Deltic-Named-St-Paddy-no-55001-OO-Gauge-/331594933234?hash=item4d349923f2:g:NkIAAOSw-vlVksS6 the postage is a high on it, which is becoming more and more common Quote
josefstadt Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Ye will never find me, Harry. I didn't say WHAT part of the IRRS I'd be in..... Close enough to the mince pies and the Irish coffee i'd say! Quote
GSR 800 Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Close enough to the mince pies and the Irish coffee i'd say! HA HA! and the steam pressure is already at!...12.. Quote
GSR 800 Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Yer only mad for a fight, Dave. IIINN The Red Corner, We Have Dave "The Kraken" Braken!! IN The Blue Corner We Have Pat "StrongBoy" Conboy! In the IRM Semi Final! Quote
Horsetan Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) .....- roughly what's the cost of the Sulzer body PLUS a suitable chassis (class 55, for example)? Assume Des will charge 75 Euro (about £54) for his "new run" body moulding. A new Class 55 power bogie is about 44.7 Euro (£32.44), and a used one is 27.3 Euro (about £27), whilst an unpowered one is 32.4 Euro (£23.52) if you pick the current Railroad one, or 8.26 Euro (£6) if you pick the Lima one Full list of available spares here Edited December 15, 2015 by Horsetan Quote
jhb171achill Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 So maybe €150 the lot, or thereabouts..... that's not bad. GSR800 - instead of Irish coffee, I'll have a Guinness. Many thanks! :-) And instead of mince pies, let me at the dark choc digestives....get back! get back! Quote
Horsetan Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Does anyone know what the wheelbase measurement of the Railroad 55 bogie actually is? Quote
Dhu Varren Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Does anyone know what the wheelbase measurement of the Railroad 55 bogie actually is? Yes, it is 24mm + 24mm Quote
Horsetan Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Yes, it is 24mm + 24mm Excellent. Thanks to the man there. Quote
Weshty Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Folks, to reiterate, I am looking at another donor at the moment (central motor and diecast body). I need to finalise kitbashing suitability. If appropriate, the kit, the donor and post would be c. €150. So far, the donor's bogies fit the Sulzer side frames like a glove. More anon. Quote
Junctionmad Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Des does your kit contain the etched detail parts thanks dave Quote
Horsetan Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Des does your kit contain the etched detail parts Certainly does.... Quote
Mike 84C Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 JHB check out Cheltenham Model Center website CL 55 were £39.99 brand new & they were in stock last week Quote
Weshty Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Folks, To update you, I've just completed kit-bashing the new donor chassis and it is looking very positive. The body sits well on it and the work required to convert it for the Sulzer requires just two hacksaw cuts and a single drilling. I will post further once it is ready for presentation. Suffice to say that I will be selling this as a full package, price to be finalised, but will be less than €155 all in, including postage (Irish rates, UK will be €1.50 more). Edited December 16, 2015 by Weshty Quote
irishthump Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Folks, To update you, I've just completed kit-bashing the new donor chassis and it is looking very positive. The body sits well on it and the work required to convert it for the Sulzer requires just two hacksaw cuts and a single drilling. I will post further once it is ready for presentation. Suffice to say that I will be selling this as a full package, price to be finalised, but will be less than €155 all in, including postage (Irish rates, UK will be €1.50 more). Des, Could this also be a potential donor chassis for the A Class kit? (Apologies if this is slightly off topic and SSM does'nt produce the A class. Just a general query.) Edited December 16, 2015 by irishthump Quote
Weshty Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 Des, Could this also be a potential donor chassis for the A Class kit? (Apologies if this is slightly off topic and SSM does'nt produce the A class. Just a general query.) The A class has a wider wheel base, so not suitable, and not on my radar at the moment. Quote
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