Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Bogie Wagons –Container & Timber [This entry was originally posted on the old site.] With thanks to MV038, IE201 and others for their previous posting on the above type wagons. I decided I’ll have to have a go and based the models on what has been already been done by others with a few of my own additions. Collecting Hornby 60’ wagons and cutting the ones down to 47’ for Container use was the first stage. I noted the difficulty in getting a good join between the sawn wagon parts and after a few goes I hit on this method which gave me a “true meet” between the 2 half’s. I placed the 2 parts to be joined on an old steel ruler, applied Epoxy Resin (Z-Poxy 5 –minutes). I used bulldog clips to hold the 2 parts together and other clips to hold the body to the steel ruler to keep it flat. You should end up with a good strong join. Once the first one was completed, it was down to assembly line practice. Buffers were made from plasticard with a brass pipe shaft inside Evergreen Tube 3.2 mm (Code 224). Undercoat and then test run I also included a couple of pocket wagons I had resprayed and identified the potental problem with Dapol and old Hornby couplings. Timber Wagons are more of a challenge. Working from what others had done, along with copies of Wagons drawings (thanks to 3wheeler) and closely examining available photograph I came up with the following construction method. Plasticard with Evergreen Channel 3.2mm (Code 264) 0.4 x 2.0 strips (Code 114) were used. The ends were covered with the 3.2 mm channel. They were heated with a hair dryer to mould into the shape required. I concluded from the drawings that 5 pallets with upright stanchions at each corner where fitted across the body of the 60’ wagons. These were made from plasticard, channel, strips and Evergreen square tube 3.2 mm (Code 252) and then attached to the body. Small piping is placed into the square tubes to bring them up to the correct height. Brake wheels (brass etches from Hursts) were fitted to each side of the wagon. Awaiting more parts before completing the build and moving onto the painting stage. Wagons painted in MIR red Oxide. Wagons loaded Paint and transfers completed. I loaded the containers with lead airgun pellets for weight. Timber wagons painted. Timber loads were built around foam squares to reduce the overweight and to stop these wagons being too heavy. Wagons loaded. Container Wagons in action. Timber train passing. Close up of the pocket wagons. The Wagon Project took a lot longer than I had anticipated and I am happy to move on to my Hunslet rake project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 It was always my ambition to build a Hunslet Rake in its introductory colours but by the time I got round to it Ian at MIR was sold out of kits. When the “old site” sponsored a re issue of Hunslets, I jumped at the chance and gathered up donor coaches and a Bachmann Class 20 chassis to go with it. I had built a Hunslet before (my 1st kit) so it was reasonably straightforward. Coaches were a matter of re sprays but I needed a driving trailer. A bit of extra work cutting out as well as blocking a window. The Bill Bedford bending jig came in handy for the hand rails. Getting ready for painting “Sandy” testing the air conditioned streamlined model. Fitting lights to the Hunslet went OK after some excellent advice from George. Only noticed the red wire through the window after I took the photograph Thanks to “Hunslet” and others on the makeup of a Hunslet Rake and its colour scheme. Drew the line at 5 coaches, I’m running out of room! Sandy’s ready for a test drive. Old and new liveries Now I’ll have to put lights on the 102. Next project looming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Absolutely stunning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 It was always my ambition to build a Hunslet Rake in its introductory colours but by the time I got round to it Ian at MIR was sold out of kits. When the “old site” sponsored a re issue of Hunslets, I jumped at the chance and gathered up donor coaches and a Bachmann Class 20 chassis to go with it. I had built a Hunslet before (my 1st kit) so it was reasonably straightforward. Coaches were a matter of re sprays but I needed a driving trailer. A bit of extra work cutting out as well as blocking a window. The Bill Bedford bending jig came in handy for the hand rails. Getting ready for painting “Sandy” testing the air conditioned streamlined model. Fitting lights to the Hunslet went OK after some excellent advice from George. Only noticed the red wire through the window after I took the photograph Thanks to “Hunslet” and others on the makeup of a Hunslet Rake and its colour scheme. Drew the line at 5 coaches, I’m running out of room! Sandy’s ready for a test drive. Old and new liveries Now I’ll have to put lights on the 102. Next project looming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Class 22000 3 Car Set –the final stage. Transfer time, supplied by Studio Scale Models along with some very helpful advice from Des. After spraying, glazing, fitting of hand rails, and window wipers it was time for the final assembly and test run. The front valances continued to give me problems as they don’t provide a smooth unbroken line from the cab area. Also the depth of them did not look right so I cut of the bottom 2.5 mm, including the front curve, but I think it now looks more like the real thing. It was great to see it finally on rails and with the Bachmann motor it is a very smooth runner. The original front top light looks very pale in comparison to the new LED’s The project started back in March although the gathering up of donors and parts needed started before that. If I was to do another one there would be many things I would do differently but it’s unlikely I’ll tackle another one. I spent a long time getting the lights to fit into the front space and ended up using light bulbs at the end of plastic tubes. Then I noticed on this site a reference to using optical fibre (I think it was George who said he was going to try them). I got some and placed them in the plastic tubes. It improved the brightness of the red lights are they are not as strong as the white ones. What a great invention, now you only need one white and one red bulb and run your optical fibre from them and they don’t have to be in the front cab area. A brief movie clip of the 22000 in action. [First time I have tried this -hope it works] I started this project with a photo of a Class 22000 with a Virgin Voyager in front of it. To finish I’ll show the finished Class 2200 alongside the Virgin Voyager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scahalane Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Fantastic work there Kirley, bought the Bill Bedford bending jig myself but find using a pair if plyers just as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 IE Cement Wagons I got some of the last MIR kits back in April 01at the Bangor show but have only got around to making them. I suppose that will be the extent of my cement train unless some other manufacturer decides to produce them. UTA WT Class, Coaches & Buses This is my first go at a WT Class done in UTA livery. Unfortunately during a test run one the valve gear screw came out and mangled the rods. The chassis is back with Hornby and I’m waiting and waiting for its return. I did five coaches, all ex LMS stock. One of the buses is a Jim Poots model and the other a TS8 which I adapted myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 UTA Spoil Wagons Background The building of the foreshore section of the M2 between Whitla Street, Belfast and Greencastle was a major civil engineering project. It involved reclamation of a large part of Belfast Lough and the transport of more than 4 million tons of fill, by rail, from Magheramorne near Larne. Work started in 1966 with the road opening in 1973. The decision to use rail haulage meant that severe congestion on, and damage to, the streets were obviated. The Ministry of Development purchased 70 railway wagons of 30 ton capacity. They were of a side discharge type manually operated. This allowed for three trains of 20 wagons each with 10 spare wagons, to allow for repairs, without reducing train capacity. Each train was hauled by two steam locomotives. Railway sidings and two 500 ft long high loading platforms were constructed at the quarry at Magherarnorne to permit direct loading by the 30 ton dump trucks used at the quarry face. At the foreshore motorway site a 1½ mile long railway siding was constructed alongside the existing Northern Ireland Railways line. The side discharge wagons were emptied directly on to the foreshore and the material was spread by four D9 Caterpillar dozers. The Northern Ireland Railway Company was responsible for all rail operations. The 70 spoil wagons were made specifically for this contract by Cravens Ltd. and initially involved the UTA and then NIR when they took over railway operations in N Ireland. This contract gave N Ireland the distinction of having the last working steam operations in the UK as the WT Class (Jeeps) were used. Later NIR kept some wagons for PW workings. Models The inspiration for making models of these unique wagons came from Colm Flanagan, well known for his model making who made one and put it up on the rmweb site. (See http://www.rmweb.co.uk/co...pic/39866-a-spoil-wagon/). I used Dapol wagons and Plasticard strips for the construction. Leslie McAllister (Provincial Wagons) has expressed an interest in doing a limited run of these wagons. He said “I’m sufficiently encouraged to get my guy to master a kit and run off a hundred or so. Maybe in time for next Bangor in April”. I hope he does as I never want to see plasticard strips again. There was a total of 92 separate pieces of plasticard per wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) Mark 4 Train After getting a Murphy’s Intercity 201 I had to get a matching train. [ I decided on 3 Standard Class Cars, a Catering Car and the really difficult one the Generator Control Car. How successful I was I’ll leave to you to decide. Edited April 20, 2012 by Kirley wrong pic entered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 C Class from a Modern Traction Kit. I picked up a C & an A Class Kit by MTK both in the same box with no instructions. After splitting the parts into what I thought was the A & C kits I decide to try the C Class first. I used a Hornby Class 25 chassis to provide the power. Fibre Optics were used to provide the marker lights and a test run showed they worked! The green of the1960 CIE livery was provided by Revell 365 Satin Comparing the MTK with the Silver Fox Model the obvious difference is the front profile which appear to me a more accurate than the Silver Fox but the overall dimensions of the MTK are bigger than the Silver Fox which makes the model out of place especially beside my other A & C Class models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 WT Class -Jeep I completed my conversion of a Hornby MT4 to a UTA WT Class known affectionally as Jeeps some time ago but problems with the Valve Gear Assembly meant two returns to Hornby. It was worth the wait as is running perfectly now. It was good to be able to run it at last as well as the rake of UTA coaches I completed to complement it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 GNR(I) Cattle Wagon Kits Just completed assembling some of Leslie McAllister's Cattle Wagon Kits. Found the make up to be straight forward after you got over the tedious bit of cleaning all the parts especilly with all those slats on the sides. One thing I found was the resin is brittle, not a lot of give. I dropped one of the chassis and one of the axle box castings snapped off. I super-glued it back on but was worried would it hold when I put the wheels on but no problems. I was cleaning one of the body end castings and was working on an uneven surface and when I put pressure on it one corner snapped off. Again super-glue to the rescue . Very detailed instructions are supplied and I only deviated once from them as I wished to paint the wagons first before putting the wheels on. More Wagons on order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Incredible stock Kirley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 UTA MED Set The UTA despite having very limited resources came up with many innovative railcars. The Multi-Engined Diesel (MED) was an early diesel powered three-coach diesel railcar set and was constructed at its Duncrue Street works, starting in 1951. Twenty eight Units in total were built and they lasted until 1978. I decided to have a go at making a set and when I saw Worsley Works advertising a kit for it I thought it would be reasonably straight forward. But this was my first attempt at soldering a brass kit. It turned out to be not the easiest kit to start with and there were many attempts at soldering, unsoldering and re-soldering again. I used Airfix 60’ coaches for two of the cars and replaced the sides with the brass ones. For the driving car I used a Replica Railways die-cast chassis. They only have the 64’ chassis available at the moment which meant having to reduce the size of the chassis. I found Replica Railways were very helpful in guiding me through this operation sending me detailed instructions on how to do this. The die-cast chassis very smooth runner and its only drawback is the works intrude into the passenger compartment and no seating could be fitted in the driving car. Reasonably pleased at my first attempt at soldering a brass kit but I would equate it with using an airbrush- the more you practice the better you get at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 MAK K801 For whatever reason the MAK Type 800 D loco has always held a fascination for me. Made in Germany it was delivered free of charge for trials to the GNRB and unloaded at North Wall, Dublin in the end of 1954. Following the disbanding of the Great Northern Railway Board in 1958 it was allocated to CIÉ and renumbered K801. It spent most of its working life in Cork and then the Drogheda area before it was withdrawn in 1976 My donor model is based on the DB V65 which is only supplied in HO Scale and made by Hobbytrain. It was fairly straight forward, involving stripping the original paint, adding some grills at the front, sides and rear. The cab doors had to be repositioned and hand rails added. Also horns and cab steps were required. I have set my model in 1956 taken from a photograph carrying the following caption, “THIS WAS RELEASED FROM INCHICORE AFTER REPAIRS ON 30/06/1956. IT IS REPAINTED IN UNLINED GREEN & NUMBERED K801” Hopefully the difference in scale is not to obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) A Village in Ireland As some light relief away from “engineering” I thought I would try some buildings for my layout. When I saw a book on ebay containing a card model of an Irish Village I thought I would give it a go. It was not a pre –cut out kit like Melcalfe and each piece had to be cut out which did away with the light relief aspect of this project. In truth it was death by a thousand cuts not to mention how many scalpel blades I went through. Well it’s finished now and I suppose for £6 it was not a bad purchase and should look better when built into the layout. Edited October 22, 2012 by Kirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hidden-agenda Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Looking good Kieran and a pleasure to meet you in person at the Bangor show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkonore Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Bogie Wagons –Container & Timber[This entry was originally posted on the old site.] With thanks to MV038, IE201 and others for their previous posting on the above type wagons. I decided I’ll have to have a go and based the models on what has been already been done by others with a few of my own additions. Collecting Hornby 60’ wagons and cutting the ones down to 47’ for Container use was the first stage. I noted the difficulty in getting a good join between the sawn wagon parts and after a few goes I hit on this method which gave me a “true meet” between the 2 half’s. I placed the 2 parts to be joined on an old steel ruler, applied Epoxy Resin (Z-Poxy 5 –minutes). I used bulldog clips to hold the 2 parts together and other clips to hold the body to the steel ruler to keep it flat. You should end up with a good strong join. Once the first one was completed, it was down to assembly line practice. Buffers were made from plasticard with a brass pipe shaft inside Evergreen Tube 3.2 mm (Code 224). Undercoat and then test run I also included a couple of pocket wagons I had resprayed and identified the potental problem with Dapol and old Hornby couplings. Timber Wagons are more of a challenge. Working from what others had done, along with copies of Wagons drawings (thanks to 3wheeler) and closely examining available photograph I came up with the following construction method. Plasticard with Evergreen Channel 3.2mm (Code 264) 0.4 x 2.0 strips (Code 114) were used. The ends were covered with the 3.2 mm channel. They were heated with a hair dryer to mould into the shape required. I concluded from the drawings that 5 pallets with upright stanchions at each corner where fitted across the body of the 60’ wagons. These were made from plasticard, channel, strips and Evergreen square tube 3.2 mm (Code 252) and then attached to the body. Small piping is placed into the square tubes to bring them up to the correct height. Brake wheels (brass etches from Hursts) were fitted to each side of the wagon. Awaiting more parts before completing the build and moving onto the painting stage. Wagons painted in MIR red Oxide. Wagons loaded Paint and transfers completed. I loaded the containers with lead airgun pellets for weight. Timber wagons painted. Timber loads were built around foam squares to reduce the overweight and to stop these wagons being too heavy. Wagons loaded. Container Wagons in action. Timber train passing. Close up of the pocket wagons. The Wagon Project took a lot longer than I had anticipated and I am happy to move on to my Hunslet rake project. Those container flats look amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Wagons, Buildings and Vehicles Taking time out from building the layout to clear up some odds and ends that needed completing. The last of the MIR Cement Kits. Farm house buildings for the new layout. Thanks to Enniscorthyman for the technical advice on the Post Van. I wanted to do a UTA lorry and was told the livery was either UTA Green or in the later period Eau de Nil. I tried the Eau de Nil –(something near duck egg blue) but it did not look right so green it became. Now it’s back to track laying and wiring points –no excuses .............unless I did some DCC conversions. Edited July 17, 2012 by Kirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Love the farmhouse scenario, with the post office out front. Captures a certain something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hidden-agenda Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I love the job you done with the MAK Kieran its first class and a credit to you , the buildings look the job and the post office wit the van on a rainy day( pass me the bottle please), that Bedford truck looks great in green where did you pick her up?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thanks Guys, Gareth it's a EFE Bedford, TK Arti Flatbed -British Rail with Container. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Those buildings will look great on the new layout. Well done:tumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 My new layout is controlled by DCC so I am in the process of converting all my locomotives to DCC and I am using this opportunity to add light to some of the Locomotives which never had them. My Dapol based Castle Class is one I used the lights kit provided by “Express Models” to do a wide range of lights for locomotives. The kit provided has front and rear lights with a cable to connect front to back thus requiring one decoder for the motor and lights combined. It was very easy to fit and I am very pleased with the results. For me it brings the model to life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Excellent work Kieran As you say really brings the model to life Not as useless as you look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Kirley, thats beautiful job on that old girl - shes a real beauty=D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 My upgrading of locos to DCC is continuing, 25 completed to date. I have installed lights in some models and the latest are the Class 70 & Class 80. I also replaced the lights in my 2700 Class with LEDs again using a kit from Express Models –very straight forward. Open heart surgery on the Class 80 Test running the 80. Class 70 which only had a headlight. The Class 2700 with LEDs Just as an aside –my rake of Mk II coaches showing “40 shades” of orange!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hidden-agenda Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 A reclining chair, whiskey (large) in one hand and cigar in the other and watch history roll by. Great work K and i have promised my self some railcars after the new year especially a 70 it brings back memories of the IRRS trip to Antrim. Dont worry about the 40 shades of orange, in the world called modelling you can have as many as you want and pass us the bottle please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishthump Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Lovely work, Kirley. Personally I love the variation in the shades of arange on the MK2 stock... just like the real thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Stunning stock and layout Kieran,fair play to you.The Irish Village looks great and great job on the an post transit.You have a fantastic collection of rolling stock and locos-very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Trees A Forest in a box is what International Models advertised and trees are what I want on my layout –was this the answer? If it’s an exact replication of Oak, Ash or Beech trees then big money you need to spend. However if it is a representation of trees then this is quite good. It’s a box containing cuttings of a plant called Seamoss and you cut it up into tree like shapes. Dip it glue and scatter foliage. The bits left over can be used as hedging or spot plants so very little is wasted and good value for under £14. International Models web site can be seen here http://www.internationalmodels.net/acatalog/Seamoss.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Excellent - but, put the hairspray back before she spots it's gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Kirley I have just commented a moment ago on how good the trees look in your layout thread. Another bonus is they'll smell nice with the hairspray. Actually the cheeper the hairspray the better it works. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 Dieselnut has asked to see the process of making a Mark 4 Train hence this posting. I used Bachmann Virgin Voyager stock which involves removing all the Voyager bits and pieces off the roof and filling all the recesses, a considerable amount of work just to get a “flat” roof. Extra windows have to be cut out and others blanked. A handy method I found was using a Calliper and it could score the new openings at the right height. Doors are each end were cut out and moved to the end of the coach. The windows on the Mk 4 are smaller than the Voyager so I used a strip of Evergreen plastic card to reduce the size of the openings. (Sorry no photographs) Now for the fun part –The DVT I cut off the roof bump and moved it back. Lots of cutting, inserting the “front wings”, filling and sanding to get the right shape. See in the two photos below where the Evergreen strip was used to reduce the size of the windows. Finally paint and adding decals which can be got from Studio Scale Models. Not an easy conversion and good luck if you decide to have a go remembering D & M Models might do one in the near future!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselnut Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Dieselnut has asked to see the process of making a Mark 4 Train hence this posting.I used Bachmann Virgin Voyager stock which involves removing all the Voyager bits and pieces off the roof and filling all the recesses, a considerable amount of work just to get a “flat” roof. Extra windows have to be cut out and others blanked. A handy method I found was using a Calliper and it could score the new openings at the right height. Doors are each end were cut out and moved to the end of the coach. The windows on the Mk 4 are smaller than the Voyager so I used a strip of Evergreen plastic card to reduce the size of the openings. (Sorry no photographs) Now for the fun part –The DVT I cut off the roof bump and moved it back. Lots of cutting, inserting the “front wings”, filling and sanding to get the right shape. See in the two photos below where the Evergreen strip was used to reduce the size of the windows. Finally paint and adding decals which can be got from Studio Scale Models. Not an easy conversion and good luck if you decide to have a go remembering D & M Models might do one in the near future!! Wow kieran,Fantastic work ,If i can make one half as good ill be happy,eamon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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