Patrick Davey Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Having a browse through Hornby's new range and these caught my eye, not sure if they are brand new though but they might pass as DNGR 'from a distance', as the song goes...... Did the DNGR have any 4-wheeled vehicles I wonder.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 New tooling, Looks fab too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Might look well in 'the quiet man' mode behind an OO Works J15 in flying snail green livery 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Some ex DNGR 6 wheelers made it into GSR stock via 2nd hands sold to the CBSCR. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Hattons also have a range of 4whl and 6 whl coaches under development, I wonder if the Hornby ones are linked to these or an entirely separate batch of mouldings/models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorPan Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, Irishswissernie said: Hattons also have a range of 4whl and 6 whl coaches under development, I wonder if the Hornby ones are linked to these or an entirely separate batch of mouldings/models. Hornby's are seperate to Hatton's models 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Interesting comments on these on RM Web. One of the leading 4mm LNW gurus has given his verdict and it’s not a ringing endorsement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Shrives Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Given few alive who would have ridden in these ! I guess it gives all the pregrouping short train modellers options in making a good stab of a representation , much like the Hattons originated models but the duplication/competition/ splitting the small non profitable market size does seem commercially very strange given the time and place., looking into the fish bowl. At least it will give varations and given the Highland Railway was unable or loathe to replace then these two sources give a good basis of modifications - and I would think enterprising modellers will be able to adapt for Irish lines as well. An acceptable compromise ? But when some suggest the drivers moustache is out of period when a steam loco lands with a fantastic paint job and lovely motion I do wonder how you can please us fickle perfectionists - even if the gauge is wrong and its made of plastic !! ho hum. I guess it does link well with the NRM LNWR loco projects. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Yes, they look close enough to me and create the right impression. Certainly a better paint job than I could manage......just thought I’d pass it on for those who take a particular interest in such matters ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 On 5/1/2021 at 10:50 AM, Patrick Davey said: Having a browse through Hornby's new range and these caught my eye, not sure if they are brand new though but they might pass as DNGR 'from a distance', as the song goes...... Did the DNGR have any 4-wheeled vehicles I wonder.....? No, no four wheelers. For modellers of the pre-1960 period, and indeed the pre-1950 or 1940 period, it’s important to remember one very fundamental difference between Irish and British coach design. The long-wheelbase 24ft to 30ft four-wheelers which ran on MANY British lines, and advertised both above AND by Hattons, were ENTIRELY absent in Ireland. Also, WE may have kept six-wheelers in traffic longer than Britain, but we disposed of OUR four-wheelers, which were of a very much shorter wheelbase (about 20ft), LONG before Britain. Never plentiful in number anyway, the vast majority disappeared by the 1890s, though the MGWR appear to have been using one, and possibly two, as late as the mid 1920s. So none of either the above, nor Hattons FOUR wheelers are remotely suitable for anything Irish. But the 6-wheelers of both have more than an acceptable resemblance to several GSWR types. Not GNR, not NCC, not MGWR, not BCDR, though. The good news is that some stock of this type lasted on CIE until 1963, and a small few of the full brake types only (not passenger carrying ones) made it into black’n’tan livery, largely on Galway mail trains, until 1966/8. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 You could always cut the roofs off, add some internal and external bracing (plus a repaint and considerable weathering) - then Robert is your father's brother and a turf train emerges! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 That's actually true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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