DJ Dangerous

Fabulously innovative. IKEA, is there anything they can't do?

Loads of non-Irish-outline buses here on Adverts.ie: https://touch.adverts.ie/models/100-diecast-1-76-scale-model-buses/37891772

Lots and lots of lots here, plus lots of potential bargains, at the Rails X Hattons auction: https://www.sheffieldauctiongallery.com/auction/details/-the-rails-x-hattons-archive-sale--auction-no-5

Those pics from @warb and @ttc0169 have me salivating. Mine showing as less than two weeks away.

Professor Snake Badger Mushroom?

The whiter livery was just a bit too clinical for me. Probably not until we have an RTR 8100 Class DART…

SPLOOSH! That’s the livery I went for, too, the Executive Badger with the mushroom mushroom band.

The night videos are fab, even though they make me want to pee.

Aside from all of the hard work on the layout, that diorama is fabulous.

Excellent, delighted to see this! Thank you!!!

So we can take your post here as an official notice on the extras being illegal? If so, based on facts rather than speculation, then boycotting the extras makes sense. But, how can they be removed from the market before the next loco arrives, if nobody buys them? And, how can the boycott be effective if the only potential buyers who are aware of it are here on the forum? I doubt that the sellers will remove them from sale, and would assume that they have covered their backs by “laundering” the locos through several companies, first. If I recall correctly, the 121’s were Paddy’s first project with this factory. For the 071’s and 201’s, he planned using the original tooling with no changes. That implies that he wouldn’t have been going back to the 121 factory until after those two locos, at the very earliest, so project delays are unlikely to be due to that. Not saying that the A/S delay wasn’t caused by this kind if behaviour, just that based ln what we know, delays to the next two MM locos are unlikely to be caused by this. I suppose my main question, now that you have publicly stated the legality, is where to go from here?

Have you seen the proof that these extras are in breach of contract, or is that an assumption based on your experience? Murphy Models have already released a loco since the 121’s, so your statement on this delaying new projects seems flawed. I agree that it is sad, specially the RPSI limited edition, but I’d like to know, rather than assume, what the legality is.

My point is that nobody knows the full story, so we are left to assume one thing or another. No point assuming the worst. If somebody can’t get their hands on the 121 that they want, buying one of the extras is akin to buying a used one. I just hope that the 121’s, and the 141’s, sell out before the 071’s or 201’s arrive.

Assuming that the small print has permitted these extras be produced, how is that a copyright issue? In the absence of a statement from Murphy Models, it is equally fair to assume that the extras are fully legal. One can choose to assume that they are legal, based on the principle of innocent until proven guilty, or one can choose to assume that they are illegal, based on personal preference.

That’s an assumption on the ethics. We don’t know if there was wording in the contract that permitted the sale of the extras. If it IS permitted, it’s not unethical, it’s just bad luck. Price difference between the extras and original models for sale is quite extreme. Around €150 including postage, for mine, with a similar example quoted elsewhere by @Darren.d. I had been hoping that my experimental one would have been different internally, cheaper motor or something, or wouldn’t run, or would sound like a bag of spanners, to help identify the different models, but that was not the case. Hopefully, Murphy Models publish an official statement on their website, explaining how this happened, and what steps they have taken to prevent future occurences. In the absense of such a statement, it’s prudent to at least be open to the possibility that the extras have been legally produced, albeit to the disdain of some. I think it’s about two years now since the extras appeared for sale online, but I’m open to correction. On the bright side, the originals were long sold out everywhere before the extras appeared, so there was no harm caused to sales of the originals. I’ve used the terms “originals” and “extras” as they seem to encompass the models well, without making any accusations.

How will buying these hinder further production from Murphy Models? I assume he has put safeguards in place to prevent this happening again. Clearing the market of these (and the 141’s) before Paddy’s next loco will BOOST his sales, not hinder them. The only ones who would benefit from people being afraid to buy them are out for their own interests.

They’re indistinguishable. I bought one earlier this year to test, and they are identical inside and out. @Westcorkrailway said that they are factory rejects, unfit for sale, but I believe these are over-produced by the factory. How long is the guarantee on the 121’s valid for? If one bought a second-hand 121, would it be covered under guarantee by Murphy Models? The Murphy Models website states: “If you experience problems with your Class 121, 071, 141/181, Class 201, Craven Coaches or Mark IId Coaches, please contact your supplier in the first instance as they may be able to resolve the problem without having to return the model to Murphy Models. If the model does need to be returned to Murphy Models, please package it properly and securely and address it to: Service Department Murphy Models 2 Wexford St Dublin 2 Ireland Please enclose a full description of the problem, a contact phone number and/or e mail address and a return postal address. Enquiries can be e mailed to: customerservice@murphymodels.com”

Another load of 121’s on eBay today, if you’re still looking.

Not muchroom muchroom for squirrels…

Mine is showing scheduled delivery for the 25th, so until then, incessant badgering buyers into buying badgers.

But how can you get by without your badger?

Rails Rewards Points are the badger bait instead! You could always badger, I mean butcher, the bogies for 21mm running. Have you enough 50’s, yet?

What’s the subscription money going on, if it’s hit and miss?

Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger… Have you ordered one, yet?