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No, though this "flat" roof profile type was reasonably similar on many lines prior to about 1895. The GNR, BCDR, CBSCR, SLNCR. MGWR and GSWR equivalents only diverged significantly in profile into the 20th crntury, particularly on bogie stock. The DSER always used a higher elliptical profile. What categorises the above as a GSWR design is the side profile and window design and height. No original handrails survive, but these, plus the footboard brackets, would give away the design too; in particular, those of the MGWR were distinctive.
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A beauty of a coach, late survivor. It's a GSWR second, I think; possibly a third or a composite. Still in departmental version of CIE green into the 1980s until it fell to bits. Original footboards mostly cut off, old doors and windows blocked up in places, and a new "shed door" in the middle. They used to do this to some old coaches for PW train accommodation, much the same as a former laminate has been "botched" into a weedspray yellow thing in recent years.
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Availability of CIE (1945-55) green paint
jhb171achill replied to jhb171achill's topic in Irish Models
That's the one I meant - the one immediately behind the engine. The station is also still painted in the green used for stations by the GSR (CIE weren't the first to do this!), though its all faded. -
Availability of CIE (1945-55) green paint
jhb171achill replied to jhb171achill's topic in Irish Models
Superb stuff - seen that before - early colour film. I think it was 1946 or 1947, so the green paint on the carriages isn't that old, yet it's well weathered already. Such was life in steam days with steam and smoke swirling about. You'll note the first carriage is still in GSR lined maroon. -
How on earth have I missed this! Small but perfectly formed..... truly excellent little layout.
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Yes. Same as on grey H vans or Palvans - "wheels" on anything else were always white. Once the all-brown livery appear on H and Palvans, they had all-white too.
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Love the CIE mail brake! And a superb job on the ballast ploughs.... C'mon Ireland next week!!!
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A six wheel chassis would suit a wide range of applications. MGWR, GSWR, GNR, DSER and NCC six-wheelers were all the same length, as were most (but not all) on the BCDR.
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With that level of detail, you'd find customers here. What would we buy 100 of? If there was a wagon that you'd sell, say, in sets of 6, just 17 customers would break even, or 34 if they were in sets of three. I would certainly buy maybe ten CIE cattle trucks. Anyone modelling anywhere on CIE prior to 1975 needs them, and the English ones we suffice with are nothing like CIE ones.
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If I can ever get to Bangor! I never painted it and the battery is probably done by now. It's in storage at Nephew's house. Must get it going again, right enough.. it's a fine beast of a machine.
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Any pics of 202 with those numbers?
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Very nice job. This is a ballast plough van rather than a goods brake - their goods brakes looked similar to the standard CIE ones later on, although lighter looking in construction than CIE ones. The goods brakes had double balconies. For modellers, it's worth noting that the van above is at Downpatrick, but it's in entirely the wrong livery. In GSWR days there were variously all black, or dark grey, perhaps 2 shades darker than the bare plastic above. In GSR and CIE times, all grey - the very colour, in fact, of the plastic above. Needless to say, they never had a black chassis except when painted black, which would have been probably up to about 1900-05 or so. After around 1970 or soon after, all bauxite brown, chassis included.
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I still have several of these.... a GNR one and a CIE one at least....
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Excellent concept - the best of luck with it.
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As far as the black roof was concerned, my recollection is that this was unique, yes. As for the shaded numerals, quite a few engines had this initially. I have a picture somewhere of a 181 (I think it was 190) with numerals shaded, and the A class had them too. I don't recall seeing them on Cs or 121s though, however they might have appeared on 121s. Obviously with any livery change it doesn't happen overnight. Look at the 29 class railcars; it's years since the first one was repainted in two tone green, yet many (most?) still carry the grotesque lime green and navy blue. When they started repainting locos into the "Supertrain" livery, the C class had only recently been repainted Black and Tan after re-engining, so they tended to repainted into "Supertrain" later. The first "Supertrain" liveried locos I saw myself were a pair of 121s on a Cork train about to leave Heuston. Brand newly done - you could practically smell the new paint. It seems that initially, anything repainted got the shaded numerals but they dropped the idea pretty soon. How many flats do IE have the days?
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You'd think they would have thought of that before conducting the tests!
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As far as I know, minister, there was no specific sanction related to this. However, railway companies expected absolute obedience to the rules. Today, it's almost impossible to sack someone from the railway due to the agreements battered out over the decades between management and unions, whether anyone thinks that's a good or bad thing. But in the past, if an employee broke the rules, they could arbitrarily be "fined" a whole weeks' pay, be demoted, transferred to a different location*, or sacked with immediate effect. For giving a confidential circular like a weekly notice to somebody not authorised to see it, you'd expect to have maybe a quarter of your weekly wage deducted....... Discipline was considered the first requirement of railway employment. You were told what the rules were, and given a rule book which you had to know absolute chapter and verse of, in relation to your particular job. Break the rules and you're gone! (* A porter on the Achill line, who was not passed as a shunter, assisted a train crew in shunting a cattle special. He wasn't supposed to, and being not familiar with the way it was meant to be done, was blamed when a brake van became derailed, causing another member of staff to have a very narrow escape from serious injury. With no more than one or two days notice he was transferred to somewhere in Co Meath on the Kingscourt line! Appeal....go to your union...forget it!!)
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There's a list of producers on this website, Eugen.
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It's one loco that probably did have the odd black example in the very late 50s..... grey, obviously, earlier, and also some in lined green I think. All needed would be a EDN snail instead of the yella one!
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Tis very true, Stevie! Surely there's a British RTR version of the actual SR N class?
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The nurse put those funny salts in my tea again this morning...... It's actually a superb loco. AND - as always - ANYONE who manufactures ANY Irish prototype has my 101% support.
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The pills worked, Glenderg...... I'm calm.........! My fits of the Trembling Conniptions have eased..... all is serene!
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Whoever prints their box labels can come into the quiet room with me, and I will "re-educate" them! Pills? I've swallowed three bottles of them, and a pint of cough syrup!!! "N class"! Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh OK, I'm in the quiet room now. Goodnight...... A N D...... it appears to have a YELLOW flying snail. Why? No steam engine EVER had a yellow flying snail! Now I need smelling salts and my toes are curling up.
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The box says N class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whaaaaaaatt!!!!!!! The N class ran in the Republic of Brexit, not here!!! Theyre K1s, not "N class"!!!! Where's my rifle?
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Hmmmmmmmm....!!! There should be a third volume, yes, and some of the above will feature - IF - we get time. YES - It's been discussed; you read my mind! Now, to be fair, if it happens it won't be for a couple of years due to other commitments in the case of both authors.
