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Never liked the bombardiers per se (especially in green) but this is a lovely model in the CIE tours livery.

OOOOh! Class! (E) Love it! These were classics. If it ever comes rtr, YES (many of them)

Many thanks for that link, Fran. I like your last idea best of all insofar as I feel that someone who models Irish outline might do the best job. Would it create some export problems for IRM sending to a EU address prior to definitive export? Maybe I'll chat or email you guys

It's not just a matter of choosing someone to weather for the members who live overseas in continental Europe, USA, etc. There are the additional difficulties of 're-importing' the model even though it's for 're-export' later plus 2 sets of postage and there's always the risk of damage/loss in transit. As well packed as B134 is it still arrive missing all the side rails. Easy enough to fit everything back with a tweezers. I got ten of the 20' CIE accessory containers and had to reassemble 7 as the packaging had slid apart (again easy to do) I'm kinda nervous about sending models through the variety of carriers that seem to seem to treat the contents as Lotto balls that need a good shakeup so it's anyones guess what will come out!

Well Murphy Models is the commonest search bait term on eBay for many years now. Rumor was that that PM wished to retire after the 121s but if he's considering rolling stock to go with the 121s I won't complain though

Any pics of the 21mm reguaging?

It seems difficult to disagree with that in this case. The whole idea of NMRA standards was to try to avoid incompatibility.

Lots of companies used 'proprietary' hardware and software essentially to ensure they maximize their bottom line, that's nothing new. If you use something else, then that may invalidate any warranty provided as part of the purchase agreement. This may be contingent on local statutes in the country of purchase. If you go off label because it's cheaper or you want a different sound is up to the purchaser but if you do have a problem you're likely to find that the vendor will likely not be very accommodating of your request for a replacement (if available!) or a refund. You could litigate but would you want to bother? I will say that generally I dislike this approach re use of 'proprietary products' and don't think it does much in the longer term for the vendor (unless you're don't plan any future products, I suppose)

Lovely shots. I love the signage! So it looks like we have the beginnings of broad gauge now! I presume that is in the Galway direction? How much track is there now? What's he story with that road? Are you going to have track either side while waiting for a constitutional referendum to cross a national highway?

There's hot box on those Bells! I received B134 today. Seems like it went through Chicago on route so probably others on this side of the Atlantic have already got their hands on it. The model is extremely fragile and I see this being a little bit of a problem for modelers as time passes. I hope there are spares! Even my respectful 8 yr old who has special privileges to handle 'dad's trains' under supervision was not allowed. But boy does it run smoothly even on a crappy Bachmann EZ Track test track with a few dodgy rail connections. Smooth over express and regular points at all speeds. The livery looks very well in the flesh. I popped the top off quickly and decided not to mess with the tiny switches yet. Couldn't resist 6-7 circuits before I had to run out the door. "DON'T TOUCH THE NEW ENGINE! ...... I mean it ........"

I have Lima 201 Shannon somwhere that I haven't run in years for the same reason. Might be nearly as cheap and easier to buy a 201 (if there are any left) than mount the shell on a completely new chassis (which would of course run much better) unless you had done some mods to the models that you'd prefer to keep. I though the CD motor had been used to re-engine a 125HST but it did run very well if the intention is to keep your model as a Lima 201 class. I think it was on Graham's Workbench. In the meantime from Dhu Varren EDIT: Found it but the link to the original instruction may be broken/deleted Another EDIT: IN which case this may help https://www.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic.php?t=42689

I guess I'd go for the 2000 @ €130 each. I'm just putting that out there for a number of reasons. If you look at other manufacturers offering that pass the 2ft rule and all that stuff, a modest quality product is being offered at not too much less than that price or maybe that much if you have to but it from eBay with shipping and fees etc. Personally, I'd prefer to have two quality products than three mediocre ones for the same price (I'm not referring to JM designs at all in this, you know I have your kits). IRM has demonstrated that people will pay more for a quality product possibly more than they (or their spouses) would have anticipated in hindsight. Rtr products are always going to appeal to more modelers than kits and scratch built (some love to build and kit bash but more will take an rtr and devote the time to something else). Kit and scratchbuilding can be as costly or costlier than a rtr product even with a higher price point. Irish outline has become more popular. There will also be more models that require suitable rolling stock than at any time previously especially with after the launch of both the 121 and A classes. Newer modelers will be more comfortable starting to build with rtr to start. Lots of reminiscences on this forum on modelers coming or returning to Irish outline when prompted by an rtr model sitting in a shop window infant of their eyes. Modelers dislike not being able to complete a train or layout and may be disappointed when rtr rolling stock is not available from a manufacturer that they have themselves supported when purchasing other products (whether a particular manufacturer produces those products or not come down to a mix of economics/goodwill/reputation and I'll not get into that here. There is one thing I don't fully understand. When a manufacturer produces a product, is there one single set of tooling/moulds from which every single model is made? And then the variants in terms of body structure (not livery alone). Lets take marker lights on say a 141. Most had old style some had modern LED. These were not separately components (like a bag o' bits) if I recall, and would have to be produced from different/additional tooling to the main tooling. (If) that be the case would there not be lot of similarities between the various 4w LVs, HLVs, TPOs and tool vans? And several liveries for them?

That's a pretty big chunk of metal for spraying models. Aren't they usually a little more compact? Does seem good value though

Well if you were to do 'tin vans' there is not only a market for the hooded luggage van, but also the heating and luggage van and the 4w TPO and the Heuston tool vans for the modernist to tack onto spoils/ PWD and whatever else it did

Oh that's class, Eamonn @enniscorthyman. Surprised by how many people are impressed with a somewhat 'discounted' livery. Exposure to this fine machine begets its own set of admirers (and buyers). I'm betting that there are gonna be a lot of people buying green and black, & BnT liveried A classes when they're seen too

Amazing photograph, this is what we need to be modeling. Unmistakably Irish!

The container is older and doesn't conform to the BIC container data standardized in 1995. It will conform to one of the 1948, 1956 or 1975 TIR conventions but I am not fully familiar with these. CIE is the owner and U just means freight container. The IRL 2080 on the second line probably means 20' length 8'0" height but that is intuition only, although I did note the gross weight as you did. Typically a 20' has a tare weight of 4k-4.8k lbs or 2 000Kg and a gross weight uo to 30,000 Kg )modern ISO possibly High Cubes etc. P20136 on page three seems to be occupying half of a 42' flat wagon in the 300xx series. 20 foot cubes have about 30 corrugations which would be less than 1' each. So I think your first impression was probably right that this is an older 20' container

OK, the latter then, that's what I was thinking. It does show good attention to detail to have this with the model but can it/does it need to be actually fitted to the model? It would have been useful to have a small blurb on the additional parts with the model (e.g. 4 air hose, 2x IR lamps 1987 -, 2x additional rear lamp 1980s Push pull units IR & IE liveries only etc, speedometer thingy non-working etc) thanks for posting the pic

And therein lies the problem with trying to convert narrow 9"0 or 9'6" english stock in pseudo irish stock. While there are brass etched sides etc that can be used, they're applied to stock that has the wrong end profile. The Irish stock was unique in that respect, taller with a stocky square and wider end profile. Some were very noticeably wider at 10'2 or more, wider at the level of the cantrail and operating on broad gauge track, wherein lies another modeling problem ...

Looks longer than a 20' but not quite 40' box. Maybe a 30' like the FIF on page 2 of the thread which is an odd(ish) size

Yep! Clear as mud (to me). Are we looking at the the things at the rear of each bogie, (fore and aft of the fuel tank), so there is one per bogie? Or is it the not so obvious thing lower down on the axle furthest from the photographer (just beneath/behind the cab steps)

Looks like 'rear' square lamps, lamp irons, cylinder thingy (which someone else will need to comment upon, thanks for the photo), Newer lamps, older style gas lamps in black, skirts which will look nice at one end at least, prototypical couplings, I think, and various hoses on the top edge. So I'm no use to you on that cylindrical oil/water/lubricant thingy with the 'spout' Plenty on here will know though

I added a photo above but the website is a bit quirky this morning (doesn't appear to save but if you press save again you end up with duplicates 5 minutes later @BosKonay). It's showing on my end now. It's also on page 2 or three of this thread already along with some other variations We don't have models on this side of the big pond yet so could you provide a photo of the cylinder thingy? @minister_for_hardship They may have the same bag of bits regardless of model/era so those lights may not be applicable to the grey & yellow for instance

The colored squares are 'rear' (cab side) taillights for push-pull era

I'll second that. Good move to give all those additional lamp options like the square red tail lamps even if cosmetic. Slow running looks very good close to or equivalent to the 141s judging by the video