Warbonnet Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 The next change was to be the advent of the "Castle" class, as they were then inevitably called, rather than "450" class. These appeared in an all over cream livery with maroon and orange stripes. There's a good picture of one in that livery as part of a great feature about the BR Thumpers in this month's Traction mag. Quote
Eiretrains Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 With the AECs, it's more case that the valance was added than removed. You'll notice the buffers as well, originally they had normal sized ones as delivered (like the GNR sets) but CIE butchered them to fit those larger and unsightly types, think it was so they could match up when coupled to hauled stock. The valance appeared in the early 70s, but the buffers had been done from the early 60s onwards. Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 cant leave the section without asking about the front valance beneath the buffers on the railcars - when and why were they removed? i always prefer to see them in place....[ATTACH=CONFIG]6471[/ATTACH] Great photo,especially with a park royal as the centre coach Quote
heirflick Posted March 30, 2013 Author Posted March 30, 2013 hello hunslet - good to hear from you! Quote
jhb171achill Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 In CIE days, Park Royals would often turn up as intermediates - even wooden ex-GSW coaches also could be seen in AEC sets in the 50s. The GNR and UTA also used ex-loco hauled stock as centre coaches in AEC sets. Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 In CIE days, Park Royals would often turn up as intermediates - even wooden ex-GSW coaches also could be seen in AEC sets in the 50s. The GNR and UTA also used ex-loco hauled stock as centre coaches in AEC sets. That's what made these railcars sets so unique,the variety of stock that could turn up.The UTAs MPDs were classic as they almost all were different from each other!! Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 2, 2013 Posted April 2, 2013 The UTA's MPDs are a modellers paradise! Quote
islandbridgejct Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 In CIE days, Park Royals would often turn up as intermediates - even wooden ex-GSW coaches also could be seen in AEC sets in the 50s. The GNR and UTA also used ex-loco hauled stock as centre coaches in AEC sets. I saw a picture somewhere - I think it was Des Coakham's carriage book - of a clerestory restaurant car between 2 railcars. It looked a little... unusual. Alan Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Unusual indeed! Anyone who has Brian Baker's absolutely superb DVD of the West Cork system will see the Bantry train consisting of two AEC cars either side of a Park Royal on one oc casion, and in another shot a four car set has an old 1902-vintage GSWR open third (same as 836 at Downpatrick) plus an early laminate in between; in yet another an AEC set is hauling a Midland Great Western 6 wheeler from the early Pre-Cambrian era... and I've seen a pic of an AEC set somewhere near Killarney with two cattle trucks in tow. Ideal stuff for modellers. Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 ... and I've seen a pic of an AEC set somewhere near Killarney with two cattle trucks in tow. WTF? (What The Flip?) Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Yes! And I have heard (from a reliable source) of someone seeing one in the early 60s with a wagon of beet behind it, possibly on the Limerick - Sligo line or North Kerry, but (a) it hardly matters, and (b) I don't recall. But I also know of them hauling horse boxes and standard "H" vans from time to time. Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 The CIE AEC railcars would also venture north with a couple of 4 wheel heating vans in tow carrying mail to Portadown,with NIRs AEC railcars then taking the said vans to Belfast. NIR tended to use their railcars as mini locomotives as they were regularly used to convey freight,particularly the MPDs that would take the Derry goods from the CIE loco at the changeover point at Lisburn and also freight and parcels to Larne harbour. Quote
Mayner Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I saw a picture somewhere - I think it was Des Coakham's carriage book - of a clerestory restaurant car between 2 railcars. It looked a little... unusual. Alan There is a similar/possibly the same photo of the 8:10 Waterford-Dublin at Portarlington in Anthony Burges book "Chasing the Flying Snail", the railcar set has a 6 wheel van tackedd on at the end. The photo seems to have been taken in April 53 days after the direct Dublin-Waterford trains were dieselised, this was the first service to be dieselised and its possible that the first batch of modern CIE buffet cars may not have entered service. Quote
Southern Yard Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 Another them were the days...........knock specials were great for utilising freight only routes! Copyright the turfburner from Geograph.ie Quote
heirflick Posted April 13, 2013 Author Posted April 13, 2013 lovely pics....those were the days! Quote
BosKonay Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 It's our solemn duty as modellers to recreate and preserve such scenes! Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 Great photos I like the supertrain livery with the IR logos. Any pics out there with the 071 in the same livery Quote
Southern Yard Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 lovely pics....those were the days! Here are three from my own collection. I didn't have the best quality camera back then! Quiet a bit of variety, a 80 class, a 121 hauled push pull and CIE liveried 141s. My summers as a kid were spent chasing and photographing this type of stuff. Quote
201bhoy Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 Great pics! I'd love to live in the house in the last picture! Quote
BabyGM Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 Beautiful pictures I've always loved the IR livery Quote
ttc0169 Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 Here are three from my own collection. I didn't have the best quality camera back then! Quiet a bit of variety' date=' a 80 class, a 121 hauled push pull and CIE liveried 141s. My summers as a kid were spent chasing and photographing this type of stuff. <img src="http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6611"/><img src="http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6612"/><img src="http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6613"/>[/quote'] Welcome to the site Paul,love the 1980s photos of Claremorris,your photo collection would make an excellent book. Quote
Guest hidden-agenda Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 I found this on IRN http://irnirishrailwaynews.yuku.com/topic/485/Re-071-Watch?page=-1#.UWnCobWkpy0 Quote
Southern Yard Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Where are these locations and what was this train? Quote
BosKonay Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Not sure on location but looks like a fuel oil train Quote
Eiretrains Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Appears to be a northbound oil train, possibly from Oranmore, passing Ballyglunin and Claremorris South on the WRC. Quote
Southern Yard Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 Spot on eiretrains it is indeed the oranmore oil train which used to run to northwall via Claremorris. It's seen at Ballygluinan in the first shot and Claremorris southern yard in the second photo. The year is 1979. Quote
heirflick Posted October 13, 2013 Author Posted October 13, 2013 great pics....and in 1979 - the year i started work:)....my god, dosen't time go past in a blink? Quote
Eiretrains Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 The first one hasn't changed all that much. Second one is one of those few places where you could, for a time, load beet on the CTC network. Quote
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