IRM Latest! H Van Heaven - Unfitted H Vans Next For Accurascale IRM!

[flange lubricator]

1 hour ago, Past-Avenue said:

Thanks for all your information and I'm working on a 30 ton at the moment and we'll go from there. 

As leslie10646 said above I don't want to step on anyone's toes and I'll do my best to get the van as accurate as possible. 

Thanks to @jhb171achill ,Mayner and leslie10646 just to name a few of the helpful people on here with a welt of knowledge to help us produce model's with great accuracy and detail. 

Any pictures or information you can give me would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks 

Enda 

Great news Enda here is a nice picture from the O’Dea collection of some new “out of the box “ 30ton Vans at inchicore note the massive J hangers on them .                              

   https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtl

Edited 2 hours ago by flange lubricator

[Mol_PMB]

21 minutes ago, flange lubricator said:

The fitted vans had a plate or spacer fitted  between the buffers and body to slightly extend them this was possibly done because they had instantor couplings fitted to reduce the distance between the wagons to avoid them banging against each other especially when running with passenger trains . 

Agreed. The green ones also had the instanter couplings replaced with screw couplings. 

I think this was the main justification for the different livery; it would have made them more suitable for coupling in passenger trains. If there was only one fitted H van, like in the image below by Roger Joanes, then the screw couplings from the adjacent vehicles could have been used, but if there were several H vans then having the vans fitted with screw coupling would have been much better. See Ernie's photo at the bottom of the page, with a long tail of fitted vans behind the passenger and mail coaches.

Screw couplings are a few inches longer than normal ones and extended buffers are normally fitted to vehicles with screw couplings (for example, when BR retro-fitted vac brakes and screw couplings to many of its goods vans, they also fitted longer buffers).

 

Most of the GNR fitted vans also had screw couplings and spacers behind the buffers as can be seen in these IRRS photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53509081588

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53500778071

And in this one by Ernie, though it's a bit distant:

Though this one seems to be an exception:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/54257197990

 

[Mol_PMB]

Here are some of Ernie's photos on Flickr showing 'normal' (not green) fitted H vans, with just plain 3-link couplings, not even an instanter.

On the other hand, this one has instanter couplings. And of course the green ones had screw couplings. Seems like there were plenty of variations!

 

[flange lubricator]

31 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

Here are some of Ernie's photos on Flickr showing 'normal' (not green) fitted H vans, with just plain 3-link couplings, not even an instanter.

On the other hand, this one has instanter couplings. And of course the green ones had screw couplings. Seems like there were plenty of variations!

 

The last picture is an instantor coupling and some of the others are too head on to tell