irishthump Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 Guys, I have a few BR Mk2's I want to repaint and I was wondering about appropriate liveries. I know that IE bought some of these coaches around 1990 which were painted in the orange-with-2-white-stripes livery. I'm wondering did CIE ever run any MK2's coaches in Black and Tan in the 60/70/80's? Quote
0 Warbonnet Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 Guys, I have a few BR Mk2's I want to repaint and I was wondering about appropriate liveries. I know that IE bought some of these coaches around 1990 which were painted in the orange-with-2-white-stripes livery. I'm wondering did CIE ever run any MK2's coaches in Black and Tan in the 60/70/80's? They were bought second hand in the late 80s or early 90s from a scrap dealer in the UK (Vic Berry, who cut up some C Classes over there) so did not appear in Black and Tan. IR with the white stripes would've been the first livery. Quote
0 irishthump Posted October 11, 2012 Author Posted October 11, 2012 They were bought second hand in the late 80s or early 90s from a scrap dealer in the UK (Vic Berry, who cut up some C Classes over there) so did not appear in Black and Tan. IR with the white stripes would've been the first livery. So CIE never used MK2 a's before then? Quote
0 Warbonnet Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 So CIE never used MK2 a's before then? Nope. Quote
0 irishthump Posted October 11, 2012 Author Posted October 11, 2012 Nope. Well that clears that up, thanks Warbonnet! Looks like there's 2 choices; use "artistic licence" and paint them in Black and Tan to match the era of my other stock. Or paint them in IE livery and buy another 141 or two to haul them! Quote
0 josefstadt Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 You could paint them in the livery carried by the new Enterprise loco-hauled sets when they were introduced in 1970. This was maroon and blue separated by a thin white stripe. See the video 'Testing the Helix' in post #28 of the Kirley Junction thread in Irish Layouts. It would be quite acceptable to run these alongside CIÉ stock in Black & Tan and even the original MkIId livery. Of course you really should haul the Enterprise stock with a Hunslet but you could imagine that it ha failed and a CIÉ loco was substituted. Quote
0 Warbonnet Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 You could paint them in the livery carried by the new Enterprise loco-hauled sets when they were introduced in 1970. This was maroon and blue separated by a thin white stripe. See the video 'Testing the Helix' in post #28 of the Kirley Junction thread in Irish Layouts. It would be quite acceptable to run these alongside CIÉ stock in Black & Tan and even the original MkIId livery. Of course you really should haul the Enterprise stock with a Hunslet but you could imagine that it ha failed and a CIÉ loco was substituted. Good call, the Enterprise livery looks good, would be close to the mark and Silverfox are currently doing Hunslets. Something a bit different to add to your loco roster in time. Quote
0 RedRich Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 I'd go along with the lads and paint them in the Enterprise colors. I know that a lot of people run different rtr stock from different eras and it can be great fun. I think creating a fictitious livery is a bit pointless if it didn't exist. I hope to see some photos of your finished models and fair play for having a go, good luck. Rich, Quote
0 WRENNEIRE Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 Give it a lash, Graham The watertower in the distance has been converted into a butterdish! Quote
0 RedRich Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 Dave if that isn't inspiration to OP nothing is. They look smashing, a big to the painter. Rich, Quote
0 BosKonay Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 -LOVE- the attention to detail and the window decals Quote
0 djkonore Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 Are they not Black and Tan MKII's in that video I just posted @ 1:39? Quote
0 Warbonnet Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 Are they not Black and Tan MKII's in that video I just posted @ 1:39? They're Mark II air cons. The Mark 2a's have pressure vented windows ala Dave's picture of Enterprise stock on the previous page. Quote
0 djkonore Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 Right, I stand corrected. Although, did the air cons not come later? Quote
0 Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 They look smashing, a big to the painter. Rich, Thank You, should I take a bow:-bd Quote
0 Robert Davies Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) To Conor, Yes and no The MkIId air cons were acquired new, first, but the MkIIa coaches were acquired later, secondhand. So the newer air cons were in Irish service earlier than the older non-aircon MkIIa coaches. Confused yet? I know I was... -Rob Edited October 11, 2012 by Robert Davies Clarity(!) Quote
0 Robert Davies Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Cracking video that! Thanks DJ for finding it again for me - I've watched it a few times in the past, and lost it again! - oh and cheers to Bos for embedding it, 'bout time he did something around the place Kidding!!!! A feel a request coming on... Dear Paddy Murphy, Can I have an A class please? -Rob Aged 47 and a quarter. Quote
0 BosKonay Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Lol, I think there would be a VERY long Queue for a Murphy A class (right behind the 071 and 121!) Quote
0 Robert Davies Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Well at least the 121 is on the cards! You can't have *just* one of those... Quote
0 Glenderg Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 dear paddy murphy, can i have an a class please? -rob aged 47 and a quarter. Quote
0 BosKonay Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Fingers crossed Paddy will sell thousands of 071s so he can bring us 121s and A classes pleeeeeeeeeease Quote
0 heirflick Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Cracking video that! Thanks DJ for finding it again for me - I've watched it a few times in the past, and lost it again! - oh and cheers to Bos for embedding it, 'bout time he did something around the place Kidding!!!! A feel a request coming on... Dear Paddy Murphy, Can I have an A class please? -Rob Aged 47 and a quarter. agree with you robert that is one of my favourite vids ever seen on the site. as for the request for an A class, i would happliy sell the kids and throw the mother-in-law in as a sweetener (shes good for protecting the house...dont have a guard dog and her voice sounds as good as a bad one!) if someone would produce one. one thing for sure - i will not be buying any more metro vics, A or C's...got stung with the lima 201s and i dont want that to happen again!! so be sure to put a stamp on that letter to paddy:) Quote
0 Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Fingers crossed Paddy will sell thousands of 071s so he can bring us 121s I wouldn't be holding my breath Stephen as Paddy says the 121's are on the long finger the very long finger (his words not mine). It wouldn't surprise me if we never see them as times are hard for selling toy trains at the minute. Quote
0 jhb171achill Posted October 13, 2012 Posted October 13, 2012 Looks fantastic... wonder if it's possible to get the NIR logs and numerals used on these? I seem to remember someone did those rub-on transfers at one time.... Quote
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irishthump
Guys,
I have a few BR Mk2's I want to repaint and I was wondering about appropriate liveries.
I know that IE bought some of these coaches around 1990 which were painted in the orange-with-2-white-stripes
livery. I'm wondering did CIE ever run any MK2's coaches in Black and Tan in the 60/70/80's?
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