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Have to agree, LM - I try and avoid the UNSocial media as much as I can. Despite Provincial Wagons not having a Facebook page, we come up on Page 2 of the replies to your "Google" query above - in good company with IRM, MM, Silverfox and Marks Models. A month ago, a guy in Illinois found my website - and he was looking for connections to the Titanic - It turns out that one of John Milligen's coal wagons (which is on my site) was photographed alongside the ship as she was being built. Quod erat demonstrandum? Or, as an even better Man said "SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND!" Like you, I wish the guy well, but not for me, thanks. LM (the other one!)

Follks One or two of you mentioned that you had missed my talk, using the slides of the late Lance King. Well, this MIGHT help? Monday the 8th of March, 2021 13:00 London With Lance King in Ireland – 1957 – 1963 by Leslie McAllister Yes, tomorrow, and at lunchtime! If you want the registration details, either e-mail me on lesliemcallister@aol.com or PM me. Hope you are all well. Leslie

First, thanks to those who attended and made such kind comments. I am repeating the talk (same pictures, but a different story, I'm sure, as it's live) next Monday (at 1.30pm) to a Locomotive Club of GB branch. If others want to "attend", I'll seek the Club's permission to make registration possible. I'm not absolutely sure if we recorded the Thursday talk, but will check. In time, I'm sure a lot of the views will appear on the IRRS Flickr pages - worth membership on their own!!!! As Ernie says above - JOIN UP! LESLIE PS Glad the Fair scenes went down well (BSGSV) - a valuable record of times past in glorious colour

As Lambeg man said earlier, it's on the 1969 Brian Boru tour, just after 171's return to service after the H&W overhaul. It was, I think, the RPSI's biggest enthusiast tour contingent - Ian Allan travel brought 70 over in a single group, to bring the passengers up to 300-odd. Just after the No.4 shot, her pony truck derailed on the iffy shed trackwork and trapped 171 inside! The late Inspector Paddy Gannon, Bless him, simply said to Drew Donaldson - "Decide what you want to do?". The local PW men set to and had her on the track again very quickly - 171 (complete with blown gland) took the train forward on her own, but later 4 caught up (running LE bunk-first and double-headed from Ballybrophy - it's a long story ..... which I often re-tell during talk on the RPSI over here. "Another place, another time" ............... and a very different world! Great stuff, Ernie, as always, thanks.

Ah, I'm glad you've read this - LOTS of shots on CB&SCR! You do NOT have to be a member, but you'll need to download Zoom (free) if you don't have it already. Leslie

just a quick reminder to those of you who like Irish Railways in the age of steam (and the beginning of the diesel era). I am giving one of my presentations of Lance King's brilliant colour images of Irish Railways tonight. This one is mainly in the Republic. By Zoom, of course. See invite below. I hope that we'll welcome some of you to an IRRS meeting for the first time? Leslie THE IRISH RAILWAY RECORD SOCIETY Dublin Digital Event 19:30, 25 February 2021 “With Lance King in Ireland – 1957-1963 by Leslie McAllister (IRRS London Area) (Digital sign-in from 19:00) London Area Committee member, Leslie McAllister, pays tribute to the Area’s founder Chairman, Lance King, with a first selection of Lance’s colour photographs taken in the Republic in the last years of steam there. Lance was a skilled photographer and left a fine record of steam in the Dublin area and on the fondly remembered branches such as Kenmare, Loughrea, Ballaghdareen, Edenderry, Tullow, Clara and Youghal, Steam and diesel in daily service on the CB&SCR feature, as well as the memorable railtour with the last “Bandon tank”. The early days of silver and “black and tan” liveried diesels conclude the period. A snapshot of Irish railway history at a time of great change. This event will be presented online through Zoom. JOINING THE MEETING To join the meeting, use one of the two following options: a) PREFERRED click on the following link https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87530351014?pwd=VTFzcGIzRXU3MDhHV3k1STYxUHl4UT09 We can accommodate up to 500 participants for this event. We do not therefore expect to be oversubscribed. 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Great stuff, Patrick. I don't need a website any more, I'll just give callers the link to your thread! Nice to see the little Bulleid Flat in a train - you'll have to get a baler, or the like, as a load? Made my day, almost as much as watching my two year old granddaughter singing Happy Birthday (to herself!). Leslie

Thanks, Patrick, for the lesson - simple of effective! I'll send you a very polite request for permission to use it on my website. It looks a lot better (!) than a clean wagon - oh, was that crash my friends (who know I like clean trains) falling over? Leslie

Patrick. Firstly, sorry to hear about the foot issues - I hope that you continue to fully recover. Yes, I agree that John's SF coaches are certainly improving - makes you wonder why people want more when he does quite a variety? Now, naturally I loved the beet train - nice wagons, well built from our kits - shows they travel well? I'm happy to say any of you who want some (as kits) can have them as I have recently built my stock up. Keep well, Patrick and keep modelling! Leslie

Old Blarney's (aka David White) home layout is well-covered in the March edition of the Hornby Magazine. Six pages of excellent photographs show off a very fine layout, with a short description of the "location" (including the wardrobe). The period shown is a mixture of steam and diesel, more sixties / seventies than 1990s! David, like most Irish modellers of a certain age, has kit-built and ready to run locos and rolling stock from a variety of sources - SSM, Murphy's Models, Silver Fox and (of course) my own Provincial Wagons. I had never seen my GNR cattle wagons behind a CBSCR 4-6-0T before! The variety of stock shown in the pictures underlines just how far Irish railway modelling has come in the past twenty years and David has shown his stock off amid very well executed scenery. Even car and bus enthusiasts are well catered for in a busy station forecourt scene. Lots of figures "doing things", while one gent, keeping an eye on things, made me wonder if David had put himself on the layout. Well worth a look and thanks to David for sharing views of his fine layout with us. Accurascale has a two-page spread announcing their "Manor", Mark 5 carriages (they really do like good) and an exotic animal called a Coil A. Good luck to the lads with those, which look more than promising! The problem is getting a copy - I had mine posted to me by a kind friend who was not isolating!

Hhmmmm, well now that's a good idea, but impracticable in a model situation - I only can see one side and my principal line - the Armagh Line runs at the front of the layout and makes access to locos which need a prod first thing in the morning a lot easier - see the Portadown Jct video - the third snip shows the way I've done it - I suppose I could turn the World / house round on its axis? I could put up a giant cctv screen on the lineside showing the front of the shed to Dublin "spotters"? This 20 year old Bush my well-off son bought me for Christmas is having a funny effect on me ........

Those modelling anything pre air-conditioned era certainly have needed good RTR coaches for a long time, so it's patently plain where to go next (not that it's my money, of course!). One advantage of being a septagenarian is that I've been building up my coaching stock for twenty years - Now I haven't got the space for any more - even the Cravens (which are super, thanks, Paddy) are in their boxes, along with the Lima air-conditioned stuff, the Green Staniers etc. I do have three IFM Park Royals, which I rather like and they're still above board level with a 141 hauling them! (so I'm with Noel on that one). I think that over twenty pieces of mahogany coaching stock is enough? All hand-made by a variety of master modellers known to this forum. I counted my freight stock (that is GNR only) the other day and ran out of fingers / toes etc - again far more than I can accommodate. Time to finish relaying the track so that things run properly and get Portadown Roundhouse building BUILT! Providing IRM produce something built before 1975, and non-airconditioned, they can be sure of a customer! I think that the Golden Years of any railway were quite simply the ones which you personally enjoyed. Over sixty years, having travelled behind steam in two dozen countries and some 150,000 miles - it's hard to choose! The diesels / electrics (Switzerland, especially, for the latter) were just a bonus. Every day's a blessing and a golden gift, enjoy it while you can! Leslie

Come off it, Noel - I offer most of the obvious goods wagons as kits - am I going to vote, like a turkey, for an early Christmas? However, to support a good customer, I've filled it in! Like the Lord of Blarney, I'll take a tank wagon - I don't do those - everything else (that I don't make) was after 1970 and so of little interest. Laminates would be nice on the coach front and help make up a CIE passenger train, whether behind an early diesel, or a steam loco. and obviously a J15 (even if I have two already and am modelling the GNR). I haven't commented on the "which steam loco" thread, because I don't see it happening - even IRM can't believe they can sell thousands of an Irish steam loco? If they do, then the J15 is the obvious choice - yet when it was offered by 00 Works (yes, I know it wasn't cheap, or perfect) it barely sold, not even a tenth of what IRM would be looking for. Like others on this forum, I have supported most of the endeavours of my fellow producers (just ask "The Lads") and will continue to do so, if only to encourage a worthwhile hobby which has brought me and others a lot of enjoyment over the years. I want the people - now growing up / yet unborn - to be able to enjoy much more than was possible when I was growing up. Time for bed - I have wagons to send to the USA in the morning ..... Sleep well and keep even better Leslie

Have to agree, George - shows what you can do with a bit of patience. Noel - ever tried a twelve road roundhouse?

A lot of sensible comment in the last few posts. Good to see our young man from CBSCR territory saying he'd not mind the older stock, but George's comment is the one to home in on - it's we old men, with big houses/lofts (or garden sheds?) who have the space for a longer train - and believe me, I can run a GNR 4-4-0 round with eleven bogies on - but we're a minority (?). The great thing about the late 1950s/1960s was that on secondary lines (not many of us have room for a main line run) the trains were 2/3 coaches, often a mix of Ancient and Modern with a tin van and hauled by a J15, or a "new" diesel - like Paddy's single-ended B Class, or the Lads' A Class. So a tin van and either Laminate or Park Royal would be nice for you guys modelling such things. Back to K801's comment - he's dead right - a lot of the younger generation (or generations yet unborn) will be looking for what they remember seeing, or still see - hence (I can't believe I'm saying this) the modern coaches for your 201 Class and a ICR set (with an oval of track) are what they'll be looking for. With that, back to the 1950s, blue locos and mahogany coaches........ I can just about make it up the stairs into the loft to run them.

JHB, Impossible to disagree re the RTR CIE brake van - very badly needed, as are those tin vans. If you saw my IRRS talk in December, I showed a photo of a Cross-border train behind a Tank with no less than three on the back! They were EVERYWHERE. The word ubiquitous was invented for them!

Ah, Robert, but you have the satisfaction of being able to say - "I built these myself" - from Provincial Wagons kits but then, I would say that, wouldn't I? A lot of these ARE available as kits from me now - "Ask and it shall be given thee". Only the corrugated open is a bit fiddly, thanks to the spindly brake gear - but it looks great when finished! Even Noel was converted! Leslie

Pity about the nameboards. I'm trying out a new slide scanner (for the Legal Appendage to scan my slides of our sons) and just happened to lift this out - Taken on some RPSI tour, of course. I took the station building as well, Noel, if of use? Good luck with the model. Now I know how I should have done mine! Leslie

I visited the Hamburg attraction in 2019 and it was pretty amazing. Now- I wonder this one will include Flight's of BORIS's Fancy like a bridge across the Irish Sea, with automatic gauge-changing facilities at each end ....... Should be good for iRM / Accurascale?

Well, David, with the greatest respect to Oakwood (the publisher), it should be. It was taken from the original GLASS negative, now owned by The Syndicate. I'll send you the original scan (at 2400dpi) by e-mail and let you look for yourself. Leslie

David I hope that this helps: No.530 at Westport on 17 July 1934, taken by Henry Casserley: Copyright The Syndicate Close-up of the complete tender. And closer still, I think you can nearly count the planks and certainly see the toolbox? I'll look among the photos I've scanned to see if I have another showing this type of tender. Leslie

Hi Derailed I think that this photo should answer your question? Thurles on the one and only run to Cork on 1 October 1957. Photo from my talk (given in 2009) entitled "The Third Man" - the story of the unknown third man in the Turfburner saga - the late Ron Pocklington. It is one of the photos in the Ron Pocklington Collection - prints given to the IRRS by the Mr Pocklington. I note that in his book Ernie Shepherd notes the photographer as GF Parrinder. CC1 NEVER worked a fare-paying passenger train.

Clara Midland - as seen above in the article, but this time the 1963 St Pat's Day tour. Photo Lance King Copyright IRRS

Best wishes on your big day. Enjoy your presents! I hope that you are settling down in your new home and that all is well. My very best wishes for the New Year - like everyone else on this Forum, we're wondering - "What next......." Obviously a popular time of the year for birthdays, as i have two nieces with birthdays in this period. Best wishes and keep well. Leslie

Well done George. The 80 looks very good - and with Bulleid Pacifics and 4CIGs - I felt quite at home, having emigrated from the Land of 80s to pure, pure, Bulleid territory. Later in life, I commutted by 4CIG. Nice to see a Merchant Navy on 29 December 2020!