
David Holman
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Excellent work - well done you. There is probably more fun in building modules like this than actually operating them, but as your pictures show, they are great for posing and photographing models. Plus of course, one delvelops new skills in the process and the project gets going pretty quickly too.
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Diesels, yes, but steam locos more challenging because of splashers and bodywork outside the wheels, meaning a lot of hacking and rebuilding needed. The actual NCC Jinties ad to have their drivers reprofiled to fit inside the splashers when they crossed over the water. An ideal loco for simple conversion would be one where the footplate was clear of the drivers and with inside cylinders and valve gear. Not many of those around, I suspect, with even fewer available as ready to run models...
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Well ahead of its time. Could be driven from either end and had sliding doors, albeit not mechanical. The railbus meanwhile had Howden-Meredith patent wheels, where the steel, flanged railway tyre was fitted outside the conventional rubber ones, in an effort to improve the ride. Even had pressure sensors that sounded a hooter in the cab if any of them started to go flat. Now a standard feature on most modern cars of course, but Dundalk works thought of it about 90 years ago.
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Alchemy going on here, methinks! Sounds like you should put all the stuff back in a box for a few days and see what else appears - maybe a motor or two???
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Agreed! I think most people who build their own stuff are happy to plan ahead and/or wait a bit. That said, Alphagraphix normally only take a week (probably for cheques to clear), while the likes of Eileens Emporium, Roxey Mouldings and Wizard Models turn things around very quickly and you can use credit card or PayPal. Collectively they have certainly helped me through lockdowns, but also very much looking forward to proper shopping again at shows. My local model shop had no microstrip whatsoever when I visited this morning, so an order to Eileens is now required for the next project.
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Wow, well done Roger. Not before time we might say, especially as I only recently sent the usual 6x second class stamps for the paper version! Given there are a few photos of my models in there, goes without saying am a long time fan of all things Alphagraphix. As Galteemore says, the card kits work well on their own and you can add a whitemetal chassis too, though I prefer to use them as drawings for scratch builds from plastic. Not only can you do West Cork, you can also do most of the Sligo Leitrim as the card kits cover box and cattle wagons, along with most of the coaches AND the railbus, plus many of the railway buildings too. Note though my model of the railbus is made of plastic and nickel silver - indeed would think this is easier than trying to bend card into all those complex shapes. Couldn't have done it without the card kit though and the whole catalogue is a fantastic resource, because there are whitemetal castings for bits and bobs, transfers and all sorts. Arigna Town was largely built from it. The loco kits are great too, because the chassis is a very simple, one piece etch. Solder in the wheel bearings (facing outwards for 5'3), fold up the frame sides and fold down the spacers, then they presto, you have a chassis! On an 0-6-0 I've had wheels and rods on in about an hour - very satisfying. Roger has some clever tricks for dealing with complex shapes like curved footplates and would say that many of the kits are well within the scope of an enthusiastic beginner and likewise the coaches too. Only St Mologa was a bit of a challenge, but even then more because of its tiny size than anything. If there aren't a few more folk (and should be a lot more!) modelling Irish broad gauge in 7mm scale as a result of the catalogue going online, then there is no justice. Come on in - the water is lovely!
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Signals may be fiddly, frustrating things to build [for me anyway], but they are a delight to finish off because they transform with only the minimum of painting. In this case, a coat of matt black from a spray can, then I hand painted the white bits, then added the red and white stripes to the front of the arms with black and white to the rear. Next came red and blue [not green, yellow light from the lamp turns blue green] gels to the spectacles, with some textured cement coloured paint for the base. The operating mechanism is yet to be fixed up, indeed it is something I'll need to psyche myself up for, involving as it does separating the boards and lifting No2 up to get at the underside to fix the servos. However, Belmullet at least now has an almost complete set of signals, though have just noticed that the point to the end loading dock ought to have a ground signal too.
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Goes without saying that Mayner knows his stuff! One thought to get you started would be doing Phoenix. Worsley do a set of etchings that are pretty much self explanatory and it ought to be possible to source a 4 wheel motor bogie to go underneath it. That way you could have something up and running to go with any stock you make and Phoenix was known to go on short forays along the main line from time to time. Small shunting layouts have been built around less and could always be incorporated into a larger scheme later.
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Although I've not direct experience of Backwood kits, from what I hear they are quite complex and not cheap either, but then there is a reason for this as Donegal steam locos were fairly complex things too. Outside frames and cranks, outside cylinders, bogie and pony trucks - there are a lot of skills to learn and indeed tools to acquire for anyone wanting to build a model of these locos. That said, the big side tanks will help hiding the motor gearbox. I have built a few Worsley Works items and the thing with them is they are designed as an aid to scratchbuilding. So, as you say, not only no wheels, motor or gears, but no castings or fittings either. What you get are a set of etched and that's it. There are no instructions to help you assemble the model. Would say that trying a couple of wagons is certainly a good way to start. A good way of getting into loco building can be to use/adapt a commercial chassis and scratchbuild the body, which plasticard can be great for. However, not sure if there are any 12mm gauge, outside frames chassis available that might suit. Definitely think you are right to use 12mm track though. Donegal locos are way too big for 9mm. The same applies if you went to 7mm scale. There are chassis that could be used, notably the 08 shunter, which runs beautifully. Then there is 6mm (quarter inch) scale on 18mm track, but suspect I'm now way off piste! However, certainly applaud the idea of wanting to try something more demanding and will certainly look forward to seeing how things develop.
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Always interesting to see how folk tackle this type of work. Far from my favourite exercise but somewhat essential... The battery tester is a really neat idea.
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Spent the last few days fettling the signals, so that both balance arms worked correctly, then added the operating mechanism, which goes below the baseboard. Basically, a piece of 0.8mm wire goes from the other end of the balance levers to pivots soldered below the base plate. Another 0.8mm wire will go from each pivot to a small servo, worked by the Megapoints control panel. This arrangement means the signal can be lifted out for transport, maintenance etc. So, cut a hole in the baseboard surface to enable the unit to sit level with the surface, then set about adding the all important details - in this case the platform [and ladder] for someone to climb up and attend the lamps, plus the finials. After that, it was a clean up and quick spray with primer.
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Reminds me why I went to 7mm scale! Really fine & delicate work.
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Brookhall Mill - A GNR(I) Micro Layout
David Holman replied to Patrick Davey's topic in Irish Model Layouts
Here are the two plans I mentioned. The one for Wantage is actually a bit more than 4', but the track plan certainly fits in that foot print. Comes from Rice's book on Light Railways. The second is from his book on Urban Layouts. Like all of Rice's stuff, both are full of inspirational ideas. -
Brookhall Mill - A GNR(I) Micro Layout
David Holman replied to Patrick Davey's topic in Irish Model Layouts
In terms of a prototype for everything, this side of the water, Wantage Town must be one of the smallest footprints of any branch terminus. In 4mm scale, it works out at 1.2m, or four feet in old money. Given this included a covered platform, two loco sheds(!), a loading dock and a kick back siding to the gas works, it was pretty remarkable. Of course, it only ever host four wheel locos, but like anything else could certainly be adapted. My own Fintonagh layout, while 7mm narrow gauge, is only two metres long and the track plan could easily work in 4mm scale. One of the cleverest designs I've seen is by Iain Rice. In 4mm scale, he suggests multiple layout units around 1.2m long and 20-30cm deep. These are arranged on wall brackets, one above the other, fed by a single, cassette type fiddle yard. A train shunts the top layout, exits on to the cassette and is moved down to shunt the next and so on. -
At first, I thought it wouldn't take long to fit the new plates and indeed the first stages were simple - spray black and the once dry sand back to reveal the raised brass figures. After cutting out and filing the edges smooth, the plates were then fixed to double sided tape and could then be stuck on the loco. Nice and easy - however, like the rest of the loco, the cab side number plates were lined in black and white, so out came the Fox transfers sheet again. Unfortunately, I didn't have any of the curves left, apart from some 5'6 diameter circles, meant for driving wheels. Therefore had to do a lot of careful teasing to get these in place around the plates, which was especially difficult on the tighter radii. Once dry, I then used a fine black lining pen to put in the middle line. So, there we are - just about complete now and must say I'm very pleased with the result. Many thanks to everyone who has helped with advice and information, along with all the positive comments which as ever, are very much appreciated.
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Brookhall Mill - A GNR(I) Micro Layout
David Holman replied to Patrick Davey's topic in Irish Model Layouts
Only goes to show how much fun and satisfaction can be had from small projects like this. An example, indeed inspiration, to us all. -
An envelope arrived in the post this morning with a lovely surprise - the name and numberplates I'd ordered from Diane Carney. Definitely looking forward to getting them fitted!
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Look what I've found... Had another look through Ernie Shepherd's history of the WL&W and on p16 there is what seems to be an early photo showing an 0-4-2T with a brake van. A close up is shown below and it looks not a million miles from the Dublin and Meath brake vans I bought from the Richard Chown estate. Hence have tried to combine the two & a sketch plan is included for comment. The D&M van is 18 feet long on a 10ft wheelbase. Photos in Ernie's book show WLW wagons in unpainted timber, but with black iron work. Was this actually the case, or are the photos done by the builders?
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Atmosphere! Ballasting going well though you can get away without sawing through it. Rails yes, but gently break the boards apart and the ballast breaks along the grains so when put together again, you get an almost invisible join.
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No offence DJ, but a lot prettier than the cuboid bus!
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Jouef HDI for 630 euro landed cost..... is this some kind of joke?
David Holman replied to burnthebox's topic in Irish Models
A few years ago, there was an article about a couple of Dinky toys. The models had never been removed from their boxes, indeed the boxes had never been removed from their packaging! Hence valuation was totally speculative, but inevitably, folk were interested. This highlights the line between collectors who acquire stuff because they like it and those who think they can make money from it, artificially driving prices up and indeed down. Know which side of the fence I prefer. -
Got to be pleased with them!
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Now that would make a nice model!
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Many thanks both! Seems to me that brake vans are a sometimes neglected area in early Irish Railway history, but what is available can be fascinating - the MGWR examples especially, though my favourites remain the SLNCR road vans - possibly the shortest mixed train ever? As for the pay coach, the bank counter idea is an excellent one and one wonders if there were ever any Butch and Sundance style attacks, especially in the early years of seeking independence and the civil war too. You'd certainly think there would have to be a safe and the little ensemble must have been a tempting target. Am hoping to get up to Beamish this summer. Meanwhile, need to delve into my photos of Cultra, methinks.
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Any idea where I might find photos or drawing of Waterford Limerick and Western Railway brake vans? Haven't been able to find anything thus far, but would like to build one to go with my 'mail goods', as hauled by 0-6-0 Shannon. While I'm here, something even more obscure. The new book Locomotives of the GSW has a drawing of Sprite with its 4w coach, which made up the 'pay train'. This toured the whole system on a fortnightly basis, so I fancy having a go at building a model. The question is, what was the internal layout of the coach? Suspect there may have been a toilet at the loco end, but what about the rest? Any ideas welcome, please...