Thanks for that JHB I think a black one is the way to go and if I do another, well the choice is mine! One of the guys in the group, another John, is getting a railcar and I would like a Metro Vick C class so it looks like late fifties and there's road vehicles for that period.
Well 464 is a step closer, motors in and the wheels go round with no binding. Running on croc clips at the moment I have to work out an unobtrusive pickup as I am not sure about plungers, there is not much room and I don't want to take the wheels off again.