Weshty Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 Well, as promised here's the buffer for the Sulzer. Needs to be bevelled and a mounting point added, but all done bar the shouting. Quote
David Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 Looking good Des! Can you zoom out the shot so we can see the rest of the loco? Quote
Weshty Posted April 22, 2012 Author Posted April 22, 2012 Great to see a few ingenuées for the International Bar on board. As for the loco, Cab side with grill Internal cab detail, dashboard, floor, seating and control handwheels Front with klaxon grill Roof grill Quote
Killucan2 Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 Looks VERY good,how long more do you think Des? Mark Quote
Weshty Posted April 22, 2012 Author Posted April 22, 2012 Oh Lordy Mark, if I knew that..... It all depends on getting the time. I need to ensure the master fits together ok. Then strengthen it internally suitable for moulding. Build up the compound curves and joins with milliput. Final approve and send to the moulders. Do up the etch design for the detailing pack, approve and finalise Instructions written and designed. I'm looking at June. Quote
scahalane Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 That looks fantastic Des, coming together really well. Quote
enniscorthyman Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 Would a class 20 or 25 sound chip be close on the B101s?. Quote
Warbonnet Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 A 20 wouldn't Eamon, but a 24 or a 25 might be as they had similarly sized Sulzer engines. Des, is it still your intention to make the kit easily adaptable for Athearn SD9 running gear as well as the Hornby Deltic? Quote
Weshty Posted April 24, 2012 Author Posted April 24, 2012 A 20 wouldn't Eamon, but a 24 or a 25 might be as they had similarly sized Sulzer engines. Des, is it still your intention to make the kit easily adaptable for Athearn SD9 running gear as well as the Hornby Deltic? Not just my intention, but has been done. The floor pan has been etched to enable the easy removal of a second ope so that the SD9 chassis can be easily mounted. The bogie sides are also a compromise size that fall between the Class 55 and SD9 dimensions. Quote
Warbonnet Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Not just my intention, but has been done. The floor pan has been etched to enable the easy removal of a second ope so that the SD9 chassis can be easily mounted. The bogie sides are also a compromise size that fall between the Class 55 and SD9 dimensions. Excellent news, now to source a donor! Quote
RedRich Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Looks excellent Des and I wish you every success with it. Rich, Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 Found 7 Railroad Cl 50's with a dealer in the UK I presume the Railroad will do? They seem to be sold out at most shops in the UK No price yet as he is checking postage costs PM me if you are looking for one. Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 Found 7 Railroad Cl 50's with a dealer in the UKI presume the Railroad will do? They seem to be sold out at most shops in the UK No price yet as he is checking postage costs PM me if you are looking for one. Dave is the class 50 the same chassis as the class 55 needed for Weshty kit Quote
RedRich Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 AntoI dont know I should have said Cl 55's Dave the Lima class 50 & 55 were really H0 scale and were derived from the same chassis. They didn't have the correct wheelbase for the prototype they were meant to portray. As far as I can remember the bogies shared the same wheelbase on the models. There used to be a kit available to lengthen the Deltic body to the correct scale from A1 models or Craftsman. I think anyone wanting to do real justice to Des's Sultzer would be better off taking the SD9 chassis option as that is what most people used with MIR 071's. P2K chassis can be picked up for around the same cost as one of the Railroad (ex Lima) variants if you shop around. Rich, Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 Dave the Lima class 50 & 55 were really H0 scale and were derived from the same chassis. They didn't have the correct wheelbase for the prototype they were meant to portray. As far as I can remember the bogies shared the same wheelbase on the models. There used to be a kit available to lengthen the Deltic body to the correct scale from A1 models or Craftsman. I think anyone wanting to do real justice to Des's Sultzer would be better off taking the SD9 chassis option as that is what most people used with MIR 071's. P2K chassis can be picked up for around the same cost as one of the Railroad (ex Lima) variants if you shop around. Rich, I have an Athearn SD9 chassis ready to go, might even transplant a kato motor in, should be fun... Quote
RedRich Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 I have an Athearn SD9 chassis ready to go, might even transplant a kato motor in, should be fun... Even an old grumbling Athearn would be a better option than a Railroad chassis Fran. Transplanting a Kato motor into the Athearn, you're a brave man Fran:tumbsup:. Rich, Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 Even an old grumbling Athearn would be a better option than a Railroad chassis Rich, Rich I have several of the new Railroad chassis and once you play about with the CV settings on the decoder they are actually very nice smooth runners Quote
Mayner Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 Even an old grumbling Athearn would be a better option than a Railroad chassis Fran. Transplanting a Kato motor into the Athearn, you're a brave man Fran:tumbsup:. Rich, Maybe a NWSL re-powering Kit http://www.nwsl.com/uploads/cat_chap2_for_web.pdf John Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 I thought it was only the motor and bogies that was to be used in the Sulzer? The new Railroad motors are fitted with a sealed long life 5 pole motor, and are DCC ready Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 They have little or no pulling power though, even when weighted. Quote
heirflick Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 is there moch difference between the cl50 and deltic 55 chassis? Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 They have little or no pulling power though, even when weighted. I have to disagree with you there Fran as any of mine don't have any problems on pulling power on my layout's inclines Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 I've seen a railroad class 59 run on Bren's old layout and it seriously struggled with even just a few wagons. You just cant beat a proper all wheel drive set up with flywheels and a can motor so that's what I'll be going for. They run smooth and pull well. Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 I've seen a railroad class 59 run on Bren's old layout and it seriously struggled with even just a few wagons. You just cant beat a proper all wheel drive set up with flywheels and a can motor so that's what I'll be going for. They run smooth and pull well. I have to disagree with you there Fran. Hopefully this will put the issue of the Hornby Railroad to bed once and for all as I can't fault them on power and performance. Have a look at this link http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/359-Hornby-Railroad-range-performance?p=4600#post4600 Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 Anto I did something similar on Friday evening down in the MRSI I ran 6 RPSI's behind a 53 and there were no problems Like the vid, think I might recognise some of those coaches Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 AntoLike the vid, think I might recognise some of those coaches Yes mate some of the maroon ones I got of your good self the BR Mk2 will be soon getting repainted in to Westcoast Railways livery to run with my new Vitrains class 47. I picked up a load of them when I was in Rails of Sheffield Quote
Warbonnet Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 I have to disagree with you there Fran. Hopefully this will put the issue of the Hornby Railroad to bed once and for all as I can't fault them on power and performance.Have a look at this link http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/359-Hornby-Railroad-range-performance?p=4600#post4600 As I said in that thread; Well, lets be fair, Hornby Mark 1s and Dapol/Airfix/Hornby Mark 2 air cons weigh next to nothing. Stick them on a rake of your MIR wagons, then I might be impressed. There's no doubting their smoothness, and they are a decent motor bogie, but nothing will beat a central can motor and flywheel drive powering two bogies. If it did, we'd still have our 141s and new 201s powered with a motor bogie. If the railroad bogie suits your needs then fine, I'm still going down the all-wheel drive road. And don't even get me started on traction tyres!!! Quote
Weshty Posted June 8, 2012 Author Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) Right. Enough of this chat about donor chassis et al. Here's what you are going to be putting ON your donor chassis. Need to start forming the compound curves and getting the ancilliary bits, but we're getting there. Edited June 8, 2012 by Weshty added photos Quote
RedRich Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Thats looking damn impressive Des. It's always great to see a manufacturer have the b**ls to show a model at the various stages of production. You have brought a hell of a lot of excellent models to the table since taking over SSM and this looks to be on the same level if not better, well done . Rich, Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 Oooooooooo I can't wait looking forward to this Quote
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