Mayner Posted Friday at 11:33 Posted Friday at 11:33 10 minutes ago, irishthump said: Black and amber was how I've also heard it frequently described... Remember a heated discussion with my cousins (all of us teenagers) on a summer holiday trip to Bray (late 60s) who were convinced that the carriages were dark blue and amber, though at least we managed to agree on the amber. 1
Mol_PMB Posted Friday at 12:01 Posted Friday at 12:01 The original intention was for the area around the windows to be dark olive green, officially CC.239 'greenfinch' equivalent to BS381C 279 'steel furniture green' . As far as I am aware this was never actually applied, but was substituted with black. Black was always intended for the roof, ends and underframe/bogies. The lower colour was described by the designer as 'saffron', but the numerical colour reference CC.222 (equivalent to BCC.74) given was officially called 'golden brown'. 1
jhb171achill Posted Friday at 12:37 Posted Friday at 12:37 1 hour ago, irishthump said: Black and amber was how I've also heard it frequently described... That’s as good as anything. It certainly wasn’t brown, and the term used “golden brown” just doesn’t make sense. Nor was it pure orange, as such. It was an orange shade with a distinctly brownish tint, so “amber” or, unfortunately, “tan” were (and are) probably the most technically apt descriptions….. 1
dropshort105 Posted Saturday at 09:15 Posted Saturday at 09:15 On 10/6/2026 at 9:55 PM, glenn19 said: Just got my Park Royal D.176 Suburban No. 1400TL, looks absolutely lovely but, it derails very easily, haven't had time to examine in detail yet, but when the bogey is turning the coupling is getting caught. It's a 2nd radius curve. All my others work OK. Maybe I need longer couplings, but I have a problem on a straight where it also derails, yet I can't see anything wrong Anybody else having this issue All three of mine were derailing r2 and 3 on an incline ( I have two helix on my layout ) the bogie has a u shaped bracket which makes contact with the NEM socket, I cut the bracket off, this allowed more throw on the bogie, however the sprung buffers were also fowling, I retracted them and put a spot of super glue on the back of them to keep them retracted, this seems to have fixed the issue, I didn't like making these modifications to these works of art, but they run on my layout now, which is better than them not running. In defense of the manufacturer, my layout does present challenges for rolling stock. 1 1
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