Production Complete - A First Look At Our Bulleid Open Wagons

[ttc0169]

Delighted with my PWD open wagons-well done yet again IRM. 
Keep up the great work. 
 

[Georgeconna]

17 hours ago, Fowler4f said:

Just fitted Kadee No.17 to all my open wagons and tested with height gauge.
 

Spot on.

well that good news then,no bodge needed at all, I picked up some Kaydees in Enniskillen Model Shop the other week and so will check too. 

14 hours ago, raymurph said:

Delighted to add my 3 beets to my mixed goods train(thanks to @leslie10646), looking forward to the flats arrival soon. Many thanks IRM.

 

Apologies for the stand in brake van. 

More I see the silver the better it gets as a livery, I can see why they chose to paint them like that in the 1st place, Sparkles for a moment....

[murrayec]

9 minutes ago, Georgeconna said:

''More I see the silver the better it gets as a livery, I can see why they chose to paint them like that in the 1st place, Sparkles for a moment....''

I assumed they were galvanized?

Eoin

[Georgeconna]

Mine Arrived today, Weighty little buggers! The floor is diecast and cold to touch!. The Brake gear finesse in itself. Pushed it along a flat surface and running is free an smooth! Sprung buffers too and lovely metal wheels.

Unfortunately no permanent way just yet to give them a run.

Gotta hand to the the folks putting these together as there is not a hint of a drop of glue or residue on any of the separate detail pieces. I would hate to have an dexterity test for that factory!

No tools to hand to fit a kaydee to so I will leave that off for the fear of damaging the detail but a comparison pic attached when paired to a Hornby MN tender. Micro difference really nothing to worry about.

10 outa 10  in all fairness. It certainly is quality for the price.

Downside Forgot to order the Earlier FS variants and one pack already sold out!

Edited June 11, 2024 by Georgeconna

[jhb171achill]

On 11/6/2024 at 10:07 AM, murrayec said:

I assumed they were galvanized?

Eoin

Correct, galvanised rather than painted.

 

But chassis remained grey up to just the final years as in the model above. Anything in the modelling world based on real life before, say, 1985-90, will require purchase of the grey chassis ones.

Edited June 12, 2024 by jhb171achill

[Georgeconna]

Hi lads,

Question for IRM boys, I Missed out on FS pack 1, Are Marks Getting some stock of these wagons as I could get it in there hopefully if they are?

[Niles]

Quite impressed with these, the really capture the wider look of Irish wagons compared to my models of 'narrow gauge' GB opens.

Was doing some ballasting yesterday evening and found them the perfect size for keeping a small load on hand. 

[MOGUL]

3 hours ago, Georgeconna said:

Hi lads,

Question for IRM boys, I Missed out on FS pack 1, Are Marks Getting some stock of these wagons as I could get it in there hopefully if they are?

Hi George,

We will have more stock on sale shortly once all the pre-orders are despatched..

Regards

Andrew

[Rush and Lusk]

Just to add to the many other very satisfied customers of the recently received, Corrugated Open Wagons - wonderful details, surprising weight and smooth running - congratulations IRM, - George

A Class, 39r outward bound and later return, hauling short rake of wagons on this sunny evening, as the farmers move their fattening stock before the weather turns tomorrow ! 

 

 

[Gabhal Luimnigh]

Lovely scene 

[Niles]

11 hours ago, Rush and Lusk said:

Just to add to the many other very satisfied customers of the recently received, Corrugated Open Wagons - wonderful details, surprising weight and smooth running - congratulations IRM, - George

A Class, 39r outward bound and later return, hauling short rake of wagons on this sunny evening, as the farmers move their fattening stock before the weather turns tomorrow ! 

 

 

Wow. even without the train that's some lovely modelling there.

[Rush and Lusk]

Thank you all very much , Regards, George 

[derek]

On 12/6/2024 at 10:28 PM, Rush and Lusk said:

Just to add to the many other very satisfied customers of the recently received, Corrugated Open Wagons - wonderful details, surprising weight and smooth running - congratulations IRM, - George

A Class, 39r outward bound and later return, hauling short rake of wagons on this sunny evening, as the farmers move their fattening stock before the weather turns tomorrow ! 

 

 

Hi  George, great minds think alike. From my old layout before I ripped it up 

[Rush and Lusk]

Hi Derek, great minds indeed - we both like that very natural scene, I plan to use another version of it again as its an activity most people can relate to. Thats a very nice looking layout of yours !. Thanks, George 

[derek]

17 minutes ago, Rush and Lusk said:

Hi Derek, great minds indeed - we both like that very natural scene, I plan to use another version of it again as its an activity most people can relate to. Thats a very nice looking layout of yours !. Thanks, George 

Hi George, yes I intend to use a version of the  "cattle scene" again too. And that version of the layout is definitely" WAS". It,s  gone now

[Mol_PMB]

Thanks to @mfjoc's 1972 wagon register, I can add some more info on the corrugated opens here.

Here's the technical spec sheet:

Here's the diagram. Note that there are two underframe variants listed - the standard one with channel section and a lightweight version made with hollow section. I'm not sure whether this was a consequence of material shortages (which were certainly an issue in the 1950s) or a desire to further reduce the tare weight. My understanding is that the hollow-section underframes turned out to be unsatisfactory. 

Here's another version of the diagram from the IRRS Archives which gives the number series:

Going back to the 1972 wagon register, this page lists '25 omissions': these may have been wagon numbers in the last 1968/69 series that weren't used. Note that the number list on the diagram above also has a few other gaps in the 14xxx series. 

 

Here's a nice photo of 13230, a standard type wagon built in 1958:

The wagon register also has an interesting couple of pages on wagons converted for bulk fertiliser traffic. There's a photo of 12663, also built in 1958. The photo shows it freshly painted (all over including the body) with a paint date of 16/2/1967, so it's likely to be grey. It is branded 'BULK FERTILIZER' at the bottom of the door, and both the door bangers have been removed. It also has newer-style extended buffers. 

There is also a list of numbers of 146 wagons allocated to bulk fertiliser traffic. Almost all of these are in the 12xxx series, but 14381 and 14382 are also listed - two numbers which are absent from the series on the wagon diagram. I wonder how many of them were painted and branded like 12663? 

In Ciaran's latest upload to the IRRS Flickr archive there are a couple of photos of B174 hauling a rake of corrugated wagons through Dun Laoghaire in the early 1970s:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/55585916035

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/55585500391

These wagons are sheeted (which would be necessary for a bulk fertiliser load) and could be travelling north from Shelton Abbey fertiliser factory. Some have the larger buffers as in the photo of 12663 above.

Another northbound train, this time at Rathdrum, with a high proportion of sheeted corrugated opens:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/55585692709/

Here's another block train of sheeted opens on the DSER in the early 1970s, heading south at Enniscorthy so it could also be coming from Shelton Abbey:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53445961907/

All this was before the bogie pallet wagons for fertiliser were introduced. They came soon after, and I expect these corrugated opens were returned to normal use.

 

Perhaps a rather niche usage, but it's an excuse for a different livery on a corrugated open!

[jhb171achill]

41 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

Thanks to @mfjoc's 1972 wagon register, I can add some more info on the corrugated opens here.

Here's the technical spec sheet:

Here's the diagram. Note that there are two underframe variants listed - the standard one with channel section and a lightweight version made with hollow section. I'm not sure whether this was a consequence of material shortages (which were certainly an issue in the 1950s) or a desire to further reduce the tare weight. My understanding is that the hollow-section underframes turned out to be unsatisfactory. 

Here's another version of the diagram from the IRRS Archives which gives the number series:

Going back to the 1972 wagon register, this page lists '25 omissions': these may have been wagon numbers in the last 1968/69 series that weren't used. Note that the number list on the diagram above also has a few other gaps in the 14xxx series. 

 

Here's a nice photo of 13230, a standard type wagon built in 1958:

The wagon register also has an interesting couple of pages on wagons converted for bulk fertiliser traffic. There's a photo of 12663, also built in 1958. The photo shows it freshly painted (all over including the body) with a paint date of 16/2/1967, so it's likely to be grey. It is branded 'BULK FERTILIZER' at the bottom of the door, and both the door bangers have been removed. It also has newer-style extended buffers. 

There is also a list of numbers of 146 wagons allocated to bulk fertiliser traffic. Almost all of these are in the 12xxx series, but 14381 and 14382 are also listed - two numbers which are absent from the series on the wagon diagram. I wonder how many of them were painted and branded like 12663? 

In Ciaran's latest upload to the IRRS Flickr archive there are a couple of photos of B174 hauling a rake of corrugated wagons through Dun Laoghaire in the early 1970s:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/55585916035

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/55585500391

These wagons are sheeted (which would be necessary for a bulk fertiliser load) and could be travelling north from Shelton Abbey fertiliser factory. Some have the larger buffers as in the photo of 12663 above.

Another northbound train, this time at Rathdrum, with a high proportion of sheeted corrugated opens:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/55585692709/

Here's another block train of sheeted opens on the DSER in the early 1970s, heading south at Enniscorthy so it could also be coming from Shelton Abbey:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53445961907/

All this was before the bogie pallet wagons for fertiliser were introduced. They came soon after, and I expect these corrugated opens were returned to normal use.

 

Perhaps a rather niche usage, but it's an excuse for a different livery on a corrugated open!

They were indeed standard grey. I saw a withdrawn one in Heuston goods yard in the mid-1970s and wondered why the body was painted instead of “silver”. 

I think I have a pic of it somewhere. Must delve. 

[Mol_PMB]

Some super colour footage of corrugated wagons in use for fertiliser traffic here. 
The sequence from about 4 minutes shows several of the specially painted and branded wagons:

Also good to see the colours of the wagon sheets used. It’s all quite colourful!