Haulin' Oats! Grain Wagons Next For IRM's "Project Bulleid"

[patrick]

The white CIE insulated containers would also be very welcome.

[jhb171achill]

17 hours ago, Leyny said:

Anyone know if these would have been regulars on the Burma Road? Was the mill in Ballysodare supplied from Ballina? 

From Dublin.

[DB JOE]

Went to pre order these today as I was paying for the orange/black mk2b/c coaches  only to see they all sold out!!!!     Damn!!!!

[DJ Dangerous]

47 minutes ago, DB JOE said:

Went to pre order these today as I was paying for the orange/black mk2b/c coaches  only to see they all sold out!!!!     Damn!!!!

 

There'll almost definitely be some more released into stock when pre-orders have been shipped to customers.

You can usually subscribe to each product for a notification using the "Email Me When Available" button but it's missing for these, so keep an eye on the sales website around the time pre-orders start shipping.

[DB JOE]

Thanks DJ here's hoping!! Got the pre order in for th H vans!!!

[minister_for_hardship]

On 7/5/2024 at 9:04 PM, patrick said:

The white CIE insulated containers would also be very welcome.

Maybe one for the cottage industry 3d printing guys?

[John-r]

Jaysus !, Got caught out not ordering these myself, hope I'm quick enough if some are left over. Lovely looking wagon.

[jhb171achill]

On 24/4/2024 at 5:01 PM, GSR 800 said:

How was loading achieved, lobbed under a grain silo and filled?

Correct, yes. Or loaded from chutes to one side, under cover.

[DiveController]

Don’t seem to be many pictures of the grain loading process unlike the beet haulage

[BosKonay]

[John-r]

 

16 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

Wow, they really look the part, Fantastic addition to the range, well done, now the big question,  for those of us who foolishly missed out on ordering these, will more be made, or will we have to see if any are left. We really are being spoilt for choice these days.

[BosKonay]

5 minutes ago, John-r said:

 

Wow, they really look the part, Fantastic addition to the range, well done, now the big question,  for those of us who foolishly missed out on ordering these, will more be made, or will we have to see if any are left. We really are being spoilt for choice these days.

they did indeed sell out incredibly quickly, but with the fuel oil tankers and H vans also in production, we don’t have the wiggle room to add additional packs on to this run so while there might be the usual, very small amount on sale once pre-orders are processed. It will be very very small i.e. under 20 packs of each. 

[minister_for_hardship]

On 2/6/2024 at 1:24 AM, DiveController said:

Don’t seem to be many pictures of the grain loading process unlike the beet haulage

Perhaps due to grain traffic finishing up in the 70s(?) when photography was relatively expensive and beet lasting into the early 00s.

Large and well known beet "campaigns", grain traffic may have been small bunches of wagons trundling up and down nearly unnoticed.

[John-r]

23 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

they did indeed sell out incredibly quickly, but with the fuel oil tankers and H vans also in production, we don’t have the wiggle room to add additional packs on to this run so while there might be the usual, very small amount on sale once pre-orders are processed. It will be very very small i.e. under 20 packs of each. 

Thanks Stephen for the speedy reply, I suppose just constantly check the emails closer to release date. Cheers.

[Mayner]

On 2/6/2024 at 12:24 PM, DiveController said:

Don’t seem to be many pictures of the grain loading process unlike the beet haulage

Not the most exciting of processes, I once turned down an invitation from a Budweiser buyer in the States to spend a day watching a grain train (80-100 car) being loaded instead spending the day chasing trains on the main lines. 

Haven't come across any photos of grain wagons being loaded, though there was a photo in the O'Dea Collection of grain being transferred from an ex-GSR wagon to a grain lorry at Fermoy using a portable conveyor during the 1960s.

Grain traffic would have been handled as wagon loads with individual or small cuts of wagons marshalled in a loose coupled train rather than the Block Trains of grain containers that were operated for Greencore during the 1990s. Grain wagons were scarce on a railway where Covered and Open wagons predominated, during the 1930s the GSR built 10 for its own use and 8 for Ranks Ireland Traffic, CIE added an additional 105 by 1961.

Its likely that the grain elevators at Dublin, Cork and Waterford ports were the main originating (loading) points for grain traffic, though Ferns and possibly other stations in County Wexford were originating points for grain during the CIE era.  Its possible that locally grown barley for brewing was loaded in counties with a warmer drier climate, CIE believed that malt traffic was important enough to build a small number (6?) of ISO hopper containers for bulk grain traffic during the late 70s

While the elevators at the ports tended to be classical early-mid 20th Century concrete structures https://councilmeetings.dublincity.ie/documents/s30902/155 Addition to RPS RH Hall Silo Alexandra Road D1.pdf,  corrugated iron was widely used as a cladding material on elevators and grain storage buildings at mills and loading points.

Photos from Clara are fairly typical of the use of corrugated iron on Irish industrial sites, the chutes typical of the loading arrangements for grain wagons at an elevator. 

CIE used a G Class as Clara pilot loco which is likely to have shunted Ranks Mill. Loading Shovels are often used for positioning/switching grain cars at elevators in the United States and Poloxfens apparently used a tractor to shunt wagons at their Ballysodare Mill.

Edited June 19 by Mayner

[jhb171achill]

On 7/5/2024 at 7:59 PM, Leyny said:

Anyone know if these would have been regulars on the Burma Road? Was the mill in Ballysodare supplied from Ballina? 

No idea if they were regular, but I’d say they were definitely to be seen at some stage.