roxyguy Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Hi all, A friend of mine recently bought a phantom drone. Hes done some stunning footage of ballyglunin station [video=youtube;9iSjgxHo-s4] Quote
BosKonay Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Wow! Impressive footage (and a very stable image)! Quote
Weshty Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Can you imagine the cost of this via helicopter? c.€1000/hour. The flexibility and the quality is top class. I'd love to see driver view replications of some of the more scenic lines (NCW-Barna, Killorglin-Caherciveen, Cork-Halfway). Quote
roxyguy Posted June 19, 2015 Author Posted June 19, 2015 Yip, its incredible. They cost about 1500euro. Great piece of kit. Quote
burnthebox Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Wow roxyguy, that's totally awesome, the clarity & manuveniurability from that is just breathtaking, thanks for posting, (PS is ok for me to go out now ) Quote
jhb171achill Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Cue an exploration series of some closed lines? Landowner permission would of course be a major issue. None of us would want a drone over our private land with unlimited access. BallyG station is different as it's in public ownership (CIE Property Board or IE, still, presumably?) Quote
Junctionmad Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Cue an exploration series of some closed lines? Landowner permission would of course be a major issue. None of us would want a drone over our private land with unlimited access. BallyG station is different as it's in public ownership (CIE Property Board or IE, still, presumably?) Actually no more then you do not have rights to minerals under your land , you have no rights to control anything above your land either. Hence landowner permission is actually not required. However a drone with a camera is regarded as a remotely piloted plane and comes under the control of the irish aviation authority and hence must be licensed and it's places of operation controlled. It's worth noting that a drone is not a model aircraft and does not come under the insurance cover of the model aeronautical society of iteland I would suggest that drones never be flown over populated areas as a result Quote
BosKonay Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 A small drone ( under 20kg) operated within 500m of the operator and not over 'congested' populated areas or near airports doesn't need any licenses. Quote
irishthump Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 A small drone ( under 20kg) operated within 500m of the operator and not over 'congested' populated areas or near airports doesn't need any licenses. Yeah, but it should.... Quote
Junctionmad Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 A small drone ( under 20kg) operated within 500m of the operator and not over 'congested' populated areas or near airports doesn't need any licenses. Yes but you are not allowed " first person viewing " , it must be flown from the ground using normal eyesight See https://www.iaa.ie/media/DRONESQuestionsandAnswersFinal1.PDF for a FAQ Ps I wasn't specifically talking about the drone mentioned in this thread, more a general situation Quote
Weshty Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Cue an exploration series of some closed lines?.. BallyG station is different as it's in public ownership (CIE Property Board or IE, still, presumably?) As is the Barna Gap Despite the squatting attempts of some boyos, still CIE property. Quote
richrua Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 That is incredible. Also, without intention of sounding too sentimental, that is a lovely station with a tidy little signal box. Quote
Mayner Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Cue an exploration series of some closed lines? Landowner permission would of course be a major issue. None of us would want a drone over our private land with unlimited access. BallyG station is different as it's in public ownership (CIE Property Board or IE, still, presumably?) I don't think a lawyer would get to far with "public ownership" as a defence for flying a drone over an airport, military base, prison, or other publically owned property without permission. The railways may be in public ownership, but entering CIE/IE property without permission and flying a drone within the railway loading gauge is likely to be trespassing. Quote
BosKonay Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Is it trespass if it never touches the ground? Really shows the inadequacy of the law around drones. Quote
roxyguy Posted June 20, 2015 Author Posted June 20, 2015 There is now some lovely drone footage of that train passing through oranmore. Think I'll leave off the forum so as to avoid a legal debate about something that is purely for personal enjoyment/entertainment. Quote
burnthebox Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Is it trespass if it never touches the ground? Do's this mean I cannot get my binoculars out & have a look accross the valley at the forestry without a licence / permission from Coilte & the various landowners, Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Is it trespass if it never touches the ground? Really shows the inadequacy of the law around drones. Maybe the lawmakers think a drone is some sort of bee? There has been some impressive footage of urban areas that fell foul of the aviation authority, a strongly worded letter was the only outcome. Quote
Mayner Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Maybe the lawmakers think a drone is some sort of bee? There has been some impressive footage of urban areas that fell foul of the aviation authority, a strongly worded letter was the only outcome. Most regulators are in a similar position but catching up with the technology, a local man received a written warning for flying at night into restricted airspace. Irish Aviation Authority guidance and regulation governing un-manned flight is similar to new Zealand //www.iaa.ie/media/DRONESQuestionsandAnswersFinal1.pdf . It looks like pilots for commercial drone use will be subject to licensing. Quote
jhb171achill Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Yes. The law has not indeed caught up; doubtless numerous issues need to be addressed there. In the meantime, and probably only for a short time - most things are probably fair game. Quote
richrua Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 hey Roxyguy stick up the oranmore footage pleeeeaaaaasseee! Quote
josefstadt Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 hey Roxyguy stick up the oranmore footage pleeeeaaaaasseee! +1 Quote
Noel Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Whatever about airnav SI's and toy drones, the video clip was excellent Quote
BosKonay Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 hey Roxyguy stick up the oranmore footage pleeeeaaaaasseee! +1 Quote
DiveController Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 There is now some lovely drone footage of that train passing through oranmore. Think I'll leave off the forum so as to avoid a legal debate about something that is purely for personal enjoyment/entertainment. Put it up if you don't mind. No moderator has advised against. It seems you have forum support and in the absence of any illegality now I think you're good to go. We're into personal enjoyment too! Quote
Weshty Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) I don't think a lawyer would get too far with "public ownership" as a defence for flying a drone over an airport, military base, prison, or other publically owned property without permission. The railways may be in public ownership, but entering CIE/IE property without permission and flying a drone within the railway loading gauge is likely to be trespassing. The IAA look to have published a very practical Q&A on drones that clarifies a lot compared to the last time I looked at this. https://www.iaa.ie/media/DRONESQuestionsandAnswersFinal1.pdf If it weights between less than 20kg, and footage is not for commercial reasons, no licence needed. Otherwise, training course and 12 month licence. Not within 5 miles of an aerodrome Must be flown by line of sight, not by POV, and not higher than 120m Not over built up areas Not flown within 50m of people who are not being managed by the operator Drones less than 1.5kg have more relaxed restrictions. See IAA SI25/1000 https://www.iaa.ie/index.jsp?p=100&n=107&a=406&pp=253&nn=488&lID=283 Regarding private property /privacy, the IAA have no comment on this. What about where you fly 3' parallel to a closed line, with each landowners permission? Pretty much in the clear there, surely? The onus is very much on the authorities here and they are still 5 years behind in implementation. Edited June 22, 2015 by Weshty IAA Q&A clarification Quote
Junctionmad Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 I made the point that landowner permission is not required as far as I understand. That's doesn't mean it's not a good thing to have Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 This may be of interest...unfortunately that dreadful Americanism 'train station' creeps in... http://ballyglunin.com/castletown-summer-festival/ Quote
roxyguy Posted June 22, 2015 Author Posted June 22, 2015 Here you are [video=youtube;HkX-sgyQV5k] Quote
burnthebox Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Well done roxyguy, & many thanks for posting those, Quote
roxyguy Posted June 22, 2015 Author Posted June 22, 2015 Well done roxyguy, & many thanks for posting those, My friend - Austin Lambe shot these. Great stuff. Quote
Weshty Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Great shots, the stability and image quality on these is amazing. Quote
Dave Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Excellent videos, beautifully shot. The age of the drone is here. I shot some video on my toy quadcopter at the Wexford show I bought to learn how to fly them, I'm now working on building a large octacopter capable of carrying a DSLR. Now with 4k resolution go pro cameras the possibilities are endless! Quote
Dunluce Castle Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 It would be pretty awesome of you had a 360 camera on a Quadcopter and had it in the middle of the exhibition hall...... Quote
Dave Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 It would be pretty awesome of you had a 360 camera on a Quadcopter and had it in the middle of the exhibition hall...... You just fly the quad copter in a 360 degree circle as they can spin on their own axis Quote
Dunluce Castle Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 You just fly the quad copter in a 360 degree circle as they can spin on their own axis No, no I mean like this [video=youtube_share;t99N223fqCo] you could also livestream it, so you can be sitting at home and checking out what's happening at an exhibition in another country in real time. Quote
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