Daryl's Workbench

[daryl43068]

Thanks for that DiveController, I should have pointed out that my 071 is MM0077, in IE livery. I've brought a humbrol wash today to try and tone it down a bit. Will play with the test coach and have a go.

 

Cheers

 

Daryl

[daryl43068]

Hi All,

 

Been playing with the test coach again, this time trying various undercoats to see if it makes a difference. I tried White, Grey, Brown and Black. Took photos outside with the DSLR,

 

Black

 

 

 

Brown,

 

 

 

White,

 

 

 

Grey,

 

 

 

I personally cant tell much between them, maybe the brown or the black. While spraying the orange, only the white stood out as different on the 2nd coat, and at a 3rd coat there is not much different.

 

Back to the GSV, the door lines have been added to the 'new' doors. I used a scalpel and a set square to get the lines, and to define them a tad more, used the corner of a square file over the lines just to enhance them a bit.

 

 

 

And door hinges and handles have also been added.

 

 

 

That wonderful colour for the gangway doors has been applied, from an aerosol. For reference it's Plastikote Fluorescent Red.

 

 

 

And the gangways themselves have been made up, they are Comet Models LMS Suspended Gangways. My plan is to stick the gangways on after painting, to avoid any missed bits.

 

 

 

All being well tomorrow, will start spraying the white for the bodyside stripes.

 

Cheers

 

Daryl

[popeye]

Looking good. :tumbsup:The white stripes, that's the big test. good luck.

[DiveController]

I personally cant tell much between them, maybe the brown or the black. While spraying the orange, only the white stood out as different on the 2nd coat, and at a 3rd coat there is not much different.

I have to admit there is not much in it if anything at all. If you have two top coats on there I'm not surprised they look identical, I'm not sure that the undercoat would have any bearing whatsoever, no more than the colour of the plastic beneath. Not sure what to tell you but it looks too bleached out if you're to match the deeper craven color. Coach looks good. Very impressive!

[GSR 800]

I have to admit there is not much in it if anything at all. If you have two top coats on there I'm not surprised they look identical, I'm not sure that the undercoat would have any bearing whatsoever, no more than the colour of the plastic beneath. Not sure what to tell you but it looks too bleached out if you're to match the deeper craven color. Coach looks good. Very impressive!

 

Ok, top one is the craven, and the rest are the test coach..

 

 

 

I think it's time to call on..Glenderg...

Edited March 20, 2016 by GSR 800

[DiveController]

Ok, top one is the craven, and the rest are the test coach..

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I think it's time to call on..Glenderg...

Oh Lord, Harry. At the first sign of any posturing, I'm outta here, but seriously, the craven has a deeper color and the others may (or not) be comparable since they're from different photos. If Daryl exposed them identically with the DSLR then yes, probably. You'd have to crop out the black surround and the lower shadows for a fair comparison and then you have the issue of scale effect they'll all look closer the smaller they are. After all that, call Richie for sure.

[GSR 800]

Oh Lord, Harry. At the first sign of any posturing, I'm outta here, but seriously, the craven has a deeper color and the others may (or not) be comparable since they're from different photos. If Daryl exposed them identically with the DSLR then yes, probably. You'd have to crop out the black surround and the lower shadows for a fair comparison and then you have the issue of scale effect they'll all look closer the smaller they are. After all that, call Richie for sure.

Hmmm... I think I'll make Richie do it anyway...im going to make my self a cup of scald...

[daryl43068]

Ok, top one is the craven, and the rest are the test coach..

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I think it's time to call on..Glenderg...

 

Hi Harry, which undercoat was the bottom one (attachment 23315)? Looks quite close to the craven on my screen.

[GSR 800]

Hi Harry, which undercoat was the bottom one (attachment 23315)? Looks quite close to the craven on my screen.

 

I think it's the brown undercoat, still looks a good bit lighter to me though..

[Noel]

Ok, top one is the craven, and the rest are the test coach..

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I think it's time to call on..Glenderg...

 

CIE golden brown seems subtlety richer than the more orange IE/IR

[daryl43068]

Hi All,

 

A bit more progress, the sides have had a quick waft of white primer before spraying with Humbrol White (34). The Humbrol was only sprayed where the two while lines will be, it doesn't photograph well! The ends of the coach has had the gangway doors masked of before spraying the white. I was unsure whether the white and orange wrapped round onto the ends or not. This photo of 3188 by The Wanderer shows how I'm modelling the coach, and the stripes don't seem to wrap around, but I have found further photos of 3188 in the UK, with wrap around stripes.

 

 

 

The roof has been sprayed a silver colour. This wont be the final colour, as I've ran out of Railmatch Falcon Grey, which is a very dark grey, almost black, as flicking through photos, the roof does seem a different colour to the bodyside. Some GSVs seem to have suffered worse on the roof than others. This photo by metrovick shows this nicely, the first GSV having a patch roof, the second looking in better condition. Unfortunately, I haven't found any photos of 3188's roof, and undecided whether to make it patchy or not.

 

 

 

Hopefully, the photo of the test coach will make it clear why I sprayed the roof silver. The patches were created using Humbrol Maskol, a vile smelling liquid that dries to a rubbery finish, to create a mask. This blobbed onto the roof and then sprayed over with the final colour and peeled away gives the impression of peeling paint.

 

Cheers

 

Daryl

[jhb171achill]

I've just posted some pics of BR vans at Limerick in 2002 which might help.

 

One thing about them - they tended to be a lot dirtier than passenger-carrying vehicles in traffic!

 

The post-1990* orange was somewhat brighter than earlier.

 

(* approximate)

[daryl43068]

I've just posted some pics of BR vans at Limerick in 2002 which might help.

 

One thing about them - they tended to be a lot dirtier than passenger-carrying vehicles in traffic!

 

The post-1990* orange was somewhat brighter than earlier.

 

(* approximate)

 

Just had a look at them, many thanks for posting! Nice shot of an ex-works GSV in there. The orange looks quite bright in your shots, so think I will go down that road and tone it down with weathering.

[jhb171achill]

I'll have a look and see if I can find any more.

[DiveController]

I've just posted some pics of BR vans at Limerick in 2002

Where, please?

[daryl43068]

Where, please?

 

http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/5462-124-167-and-186-the-final-days-of-the-Irish-railway

[daryl43068]

Hi All,

 

Little progress due to work, but managed to add a few more details. Behind the bufferbeam is a box of some sort, I assume because the buffers are spaced wider apart. I have also stated to add the through air pipes that dissapear under the solebar, but I accidently knocked one off, so will have to rethink on how to add those, or use plasic rod indead of metal wire.

 

 

 

The moulded buffers have been removed, ready for some white metal versions modelled in the extended position.

 

Cheers

 

Daryl

[daryl43068]

Hi All,

 

Nearly all of the details added, with the buffers going on this afternoon,

 

 

 

One thing about the gangway, it seems to stick out a fair bit, so might have to trim it down a tad, as compairing to the real thing, the buffers are level with the gangway.

 

Cheers

 

Daryl

[daryl43068]

Hi All,

 

I've modelled a basic interior, I've not gone to town on it as won't be seen much. Many thanks to UP6936 for some interior photos, and those who have uploaded to various sites,

 

 

 

I've very crudely 'mashed some bits into a sort of engine shape' from bits in the scrap box. The boiler is a wooden dowel wrapped in thin plasticard sheet.

 

 

 

If you get the right angle, you can make out the engine inside. If I come across a toy tractor with a salvageable engine I will swap it, but for now, not going out my way to find one.

 

 

 

The through air pipes. Had to make a slight compromise, instead of the pipes hanging down, they are glued to the underside of the solebar. I've used .64mm plastic rod, which glues to the solebar better, but wont hold its shape as well as metal wire.

 

 

 

And an overall shot. I've cut a bit off the gangways, so they stick out less. They aren't glued on yet, held in place just long enough for a photo with a bit of masking tape folded over behind.

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Daryl

[JasonB]

Very nice,really starting to take shape now.Looking forward to seeing it finished.

[popeye]

Love the last picture, it's looking good, even the track is nice.

[Mayner]

Nice to see a heating van modelled a boiler and generator set

[aclass007]

Fantastic work so far......

[josefstadt]

Excellent work.

[Weshty]

Yup, that's a fine job done.

[enniscorthyman]

Nice job.

[daryl43068]

Thank you all for the kind positive comments!

 

Cheers

 

Daryl

[Noel]

Fine work

[DiveController]

Love that shot through the window. Excellent effort! Any chance of posting the interior shots as a resource for others?

[daryl43068]

Love that shot through the window. Excellent effort! Any chance of posting the interior shots as a resource for others?

 

Thanks very much! I would, but there not my photos, but will ask

[DiveController]

Thanks very much! I would, but there not my photos, but will ask

Understood, hoping the 'Centennial' might agree:praying:

[daryl43068]

Hi All,

 

Many thanks to UP6936 for allowing me to post his photos!

 

 

 

 

 

[jhb171achill]

While it's almost certainly too small to matter for looking through 00 scale windows, there were a number of different types of heating boiler in different vans. While detail would be impossible to make out through the window views, they were different colours. Folks here like TTC would be the experts on what was what in this regard.

[daryl43068]

Hope I've got the right colour, started painting my boiler silver! Not that it stands out much...

 

 

 

I've took the plunge to add the gangways now, before the coach enters the paint shop. The inner edge of the gangway is painted Railmatch Weathered Black (412), with the floor painted Railmatch Oily Steel (415). I will mask over the end of the gangway before spraying.

 

 

 

This evening I attempted to model the suspension arms either side of the gangway, but I couldn't neatly and accurately reproduce them. Therefore, I think it would look better without them, than something there that looks odd.

 

Cheers

 

Daryl

[daryl43068]

Hi All,

 

Not been able to do much recently, but managed to do a bit today. First up was to create the peeling paintwork on the roof. Humbrol Maskol was applied in various patterns to create the missing bits of roof paint. I really struggle to do 'random' patterns but this photo on Flickr helped. I haven't been ale to find a photo of 3188's roof in service, but as the coach is modelled near the end of its working life, the roof will be peel a bit but not excessive.

 

 

 

The roof was sprayed Railmatch 261 Virgin Grey, so its not pure black. The white stripes were masked using Aizu 1.0mm x 5m Micron Masking Tape. The bodysides, ends, under frames and bogies were sprayed with Humbrol 33 Matt Black. The Humbrol paint is absolutely awful, creating a really odd finish. I have googled problems with the paint, and numerous people have reported various problem with the paint so pretty confident its not my airbrush/ me.

 

 

 

I've flattened the overspray on the side where the orange will go, and was quite surprised how easily the paint came off. I'm hoping the finish of black will calm down after varnishing but am tempted to sand it back and re-do it with Railmatch 205 Black.

 

Cheers

 

Daryl