Kirley Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 4 months is to long a break from this layout, more pictures please. Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Thanks Enniscorthyman,Seamus and Kieran.Kieran,hope to get a few more photo's posted over the Christmas period,hopefully with some new build stock being completed,already made a start on the spoil wagons,nice little kit to put together. Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 As the Christmas holidays draw to a close,time for one last running session and a few photo's from the layout.The first photo has been taken from the top of the goods shed and shows the NIR DH shunter in charge of a ballast train,with the cut down open wagons.GM class B181 can be seen leaving the tunnel with the early morning Enterprise comprising of laminate and cravens stock,while sister loco B165 is shunting H vans and bubbles in the head shunt. B182 is taking a breather before marshalling another rake for return to Dundalk later. The next photo is the same scene taken from the other side of the railway fence. The final photo shows some of the various buses that run on the layout,passing the fortified RUC station. Quote
Kirley Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Delightful, scenes from the past beautifully recreated. Quote
Dave Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Such a lovely atmosphere to this layout, really like the street scene. Top class Quote
Noel Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Fab - you caught my attention as soon as I saw the black 181 and 141. Alive with nostalgic atmosphere. Quote
ttc0169 Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Another gem from GVS,love the street scene, nice one Andy. Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 UTA ex GNR had, concurrently.... UTA green. Some railcars plain green ends, some wasp striped. Both versions of UTA crests. UTA blue / cream; two variations with broad or narrow cream bands. GNR navy and cream with overlaid UTA "red hand" crests. NIR maroon and grey. Carriage stock in GNR brown, UTA green, and post-'67, early NIR maroon with thin grey stripe. CIE lighter green coaches Black n tan coaches Silver tin vans Silver, green, black or black'n'tan CIE diesels, with the odd grey 121 thrown in. Steam engines in lined UTA black or badly faded GNR blue, with of without GNR markings on tenders. Freight stock - where does one start! CIE - all grey, quite uniform. Brown hadn't started yet. Mostly (white*) snails, some tan and white roundels. UTA wagons had a mixture of (much darker) grey, many ex-GNR markings still, some bauxite brown (some ex GNR vans and ex-NCC (but not ex GNR) open wagons). Red Inglis containers. GREY CIE cement bubbles. Orange appeared about 1970/1, as far as I recall. Doubtless more....... The visiting CIE weedspray was painted black, but the chemicals had it heavily weathered (stained!) light grey over a lot of it. The crew coach was faded red and cream, leaving a pre-adolescent me to wonder if it was a re-gauged CDRJC coach! (* Prior to about 1960, some snails painted on older wooden wagons were light green. Others, and all after that, were white). Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Thanks for the comments guys,much appreciated. Thanks JHB for your concise details on liveries from the period,at least I know where to find it for reference.Just one question re the crew coach,what date/years was the coach in red/cream.I have seen photo's of it on the CIE network in those colours,but have seen it in the teak type colour that I painted mine in behind a DH on NIR,which would have been after 1970. Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 There were two (at least), Hunslet. The red and cream one was one of the last two surviving W & L bogie coaches, the number of which escapes me at the moment. One more, former GSWR stock, was standard wagon brown. This was ex GSWR 837 of 1902, identical to the DCDR's preserved sister coach, 836 of the same year. Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 There were two (at least), Hunslet. The red and cream one was one of the last two surviving W & L bogie coaches, the number of which escapes me at the moment. One more, former GSWR stock, was standard wagon brown. This was ex GSWR 837 of 1902, identical to the DCDR's preserved sister coach, 836 of the same year. Thanks John,the model I done was based on the coach at Downpatrick to get the accurate profile,did not know there were other types! My teak colour may be a bit bright,but hey ho,I'm happy with it. Great info on all your threads,keep up the good work. Quote
heirflick Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 love the cut down wagons Andy - never knew they existed until one of the lads posted up one a while back! Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 The W & L one ended up, as far as I remember, derelict at Mullingar where it attracted the attention of the RPSI with a view to preservation. But it was sadly too far gone, and had started to fall apart, thus both of the last two coaches from the W & L never saw preservation. Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 Another scene from the 70s.Here we have two of the early GNR inspired railcars approaching the station in the twilight of their careers.BUT railcar No135 in NIR maroon/grey livery approaches platform 2,while AEC railcar No111 in the UTA inspired blue/cream livery approaches platform 1.Note the different window profiles between the 2 railcars. In the street scene behind,a joint army/police checkpoint has been set up,with an NIR Rail Express Parcels van making its way through the checkpoint.These vans were used to transport parcels traffic between York Road and Great Victoria Street. aerial view Quote
Kirley Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 Great to see more pictures from Gt Vic Street. Andy your scenes are history captured for us to see, keep the pictures coming please. Quote
jhb171achill Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Couldn't agree more! Timely, with 6111 going to the DCDR - at last! Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Thanks Kieran and John. John,tell me more,are you going to have a fully refurbished operating AEC railcar at Downpatrick?? Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) A busy Saturday at Belfast Great Victoria Street has been captured with the arrival in platform 4 of B165 in charge of the shoppers special from Dublin. Late afternoon and B165 is ready to return to Dublin with the shoppers and their bargain goodies from the North,here's hoping the customs officers are steaming after the rugby! An 80 class railcar driving trailer is ready to depart behind the shoppers special with a train for Portadown. The final view has caught a glimpse of A20 in platform 2 with the MK2 Enterprise set just recently arrived. Edited March 21, 2015 by Hunslet 102 Quote
Dunluce Castle Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Great scenes there, was the "shoppers special" an actual train? Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Great scenes there, was the "shoppers special" an actual train? They certainly were Nelson and were even around in steam days.Depending on how each economy was doing,shoppers would go either way for bargains,although my memories from the 70s and 80s are from shoppers from the south coming north for bargains. In the early 80s, I had work friends from Balbriggan and Dublin who would come north in the train,get their bargains for their kids from places like Argos,drop them of at my house,go home in the train with nothing to declare and I would bring their goods down in the car a couple of weeks later! Quote
Noel Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Wonderful atmosphere in there served with a perfect portion of Black and Tan. Quote
Dunluce Castle Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 They certainly were Nelson and were even around in steam days.Depending on how each economy was doing,shoppers would go either way for bargains,although my memories from the 70s and 80s are from shoppers from the south coming north for bargains. In the early 80s, I had work friends from Balbriggan and Dublin who would come north in the train,get their bargains for their kids from places like Argos,drop them of at my house,go home in the train with nothing to declare and I would bring their goods down in the car a couple of weeks later! Never knew that, fantastic, thank you very much for filling me in. Quote
jhb171achill Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Sorry, Hunslet, only saw your question now about 6111. With no others, it isn't possible to have an AEC set as such on the DCDR, though in theory 6111 could be paired with a Park Royal done up as a driving trailer, like on the Waterford & Tramore. Laminate brake genny 3223 has already been converted as a push / pull car there and is used as such at times. However, the restoration of 6111 is an extremely major task, unlikely to see the light of day for many, many years. It was acquired as a long term project. It has no engine or control gear, this having been removed a long time before CIE withdrew it. Therefore, once restored, practicalities may dictate that it is used - certainly initially - as a push / pull car or observation coach. Even the bogies would require significant attention, and the bodywork will need little less than a total rebuild. But at least it's saved. Quote
Kirley Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Delightful pictures as usual Andy capturing Gt Victoria Street in full action in the good old days. More pictures please. Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Thanks for the comments guys and thanks for the detailed reply John re the AEC. Maybe one day I will see it in the flesh again,unlike many people,I have a real passion for the early generation railcars,they are as much a part of our Irish railway heritage as steam and the early diesels. Quote
Dhu Varren Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I have a real passion for the early generation railcars,they are as much a part of our Irish railway heritage as steam and the early diesels. Totally agree. The late 50s and early 60s were the best period for motive power IMO, with steam still on the go, and all the early generation railcars in operation. Halcyon days. Quote
leslie10646 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Great scenes there, was the "shoppers special" an actual train? Nelson To add to Hunslet's reply, which covers 1970s - 80s. In the 1960s. there was a weekly Shoppers Special from Dublin to Belfast (on a Wednesday, if memory serves - my copy of the WTT is buried at the moment). In 1963, it was hauled by No.85 or even No. 207, before she came North. I believe I saw both engines on the train. There was a Southbound Tourist Train, complete with dining car (possibly even a KITCHEN Car) on Thursdays - run, I think, for patrons of the UTA Hotels, especially the Laharna at Larne. Now that would have been hauled by one the the UTA's Class VS - No.58 (208) or No.59 (210) until maybe 1963. In 1964, I am fairly certain that it was Class WT hauled. I had my last run with No.207 in July 1965 on a Thursday summer extra to Dublin, but I think it was deemed to be a "Board Excursion" that is an extra run by the UTA at a special fare to encourage leisure traffic. Leslie Quote
leslie10646 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Sorry, Hunslet, only saw your question now about 6111. With no others, it isn't possible to have an AEC set as such on the DCDR, though in theory 6111 could be paired with a Park Royal done up as a driving trailer, like on the Waterford & Tramore. Laminate brake genny 3223 has already been converted as a push / pull car there and is used as such at times. However, the restoration of 6111 is an extremely major task, unlikely to see the light of day for many, many years. It was acquired as a long term project. It has no engine or control gear, this having been removed a long time before CIE withdrew it. Therefore, once restored, practicalities may dictate that it is used - certainly initially - as a push / pull car or observation coach. Even the bogies would require significant attention, and the bodywork will need little less than a total rebuild. But at least it's saved. John Interesting about the early railcars and with hindsight, it's s pity they all went. Of course, we hated them in the '60s - they were doing work our beloved blue (and black) engines could have been doing. Several RPSI coaches were former BUT trailers, but not AECs? Maybe a K15, of which the Society has several. My London based "Syndicate" bought 737 (or was it 727) which had had a driving position. I can't find my copy of 40 Shades, in the bookshelves, otherwise I would be more certain! I'm sure you know? Maybe you should ask them for a couple - after all "we" can't run them any more? Leslie PS Of course, I have a AEC set upstairs and my BUT is being digitised as I type! Quote
Dunluce Castle Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Very interesting stuff Leslie, thank you Quote
GSR 800 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Several RPSI coaches were former BUT trailers, but not AECs? By the time the AECs were retired in the 70s they had been used to the very best of their abilities.They were in poor internal and external shape and were considered obsolete.However 4 sets survived doing the odd shuttle showing GNR engineers knew what they were doing! Quote
jhb171achill Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 The 1980s survivors were actually ex-CIE; all former GNR stuff had gone. But they were the same as the GNR ones, some of which wen to CIE to join their own, other to UTA / later NIR. The last of the GNR ones on NIR ended their days as railcars after the 80 class were introduced in 1974. A few were temporarily converted to loco hauled parcels vans but following the withdrawal of mail from NIR not long after, they were withdrawn. Quote
GSR 800 Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 The 1980s survivors were actually ex-CIE Built by Bullied i believe? Quote
jhb171achill Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Bullied designed a few bodies, but the bulk were standard AEC Park Royal. The few Bullied ones were odd-looking - they had straighter sides and ends and in fact were ugly things. I've yet to see one modelled, though in truth there's not much to go on. You didn't see them that much. Quote
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