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29 minutes ago, Georgeconna said:

Very nice work, On the roof planking would you actually see that through the canvas cover?

Some set up you have there Eoin now. Some of that gear I did not know even existed!

 

Thanks George,

I'm hoping an impression of the planking will show through the canvas!

A lot of the tools I have are from the 1:1 scale and engineering projects, they work equally as well on the smaller stuff, like model trains- one cannot have enough tools......

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9 hours ago, murrayec said:

Thanks George,

I'm hoping an impression of the planking will show through the canvas!

A lot of the tools I have are from the 1:1 scale and engineering projects, they work equally as well on the smaller stuff, like model trains- one cannot have enough tools......

Eoin

aha

Good thinking! I'll tune in now to see what 'Canvas' you are going to lay over this beauty!

 

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Chassis & body brass work coming to completion;-

Setting up to install Dapol NEM pocket fittings, the chassis mounting part is folded up and a 3.15mm styrene mounting spigot prepared to joy rig the pocket to access the correct level and decide what mods are needed.

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The drag beam overlay parts, buffers, vac pipes and hooks are prepared for soldering.

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After assessing the coupler height this is the mod done to the mounting plate- 3.4mm cut off the upstands to set the correct coupler level.

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After the drag beam detail overlay, the buffers, the hook, and the modified plate are soldered on, a brass 3.15mm spigot tapped 10BA to mount the coupler and a 1mm wire stop to hold the Dapol spring plate on centre were made up.

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Parts soldered on and a 10BA screw prepared for the fixing.

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Mounted.

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Verified.

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The gas light roof pipe was next- to keep the roof removable the pipe needs to separate from the end down pipe so I decided to use a .4mm bore pipe to do this. The pipe is held with two .3mm split pins soldered on the coach end, so I made up a batch of pins by half filing .3mm brass wire n folding over to create the pins.

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Pins fitted to the down pipe, which will thread through .4mm holes drilled in the end plate and soldered on the inside.

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Gas down pipe and end handrails ready to be soldered on.

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Done. The solder wicked through the split pins and soldered the pipe in the pin heads.

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Next is the coach air vents, these parts are folded and stuck in place with epoxy glue.

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After folding, the parts need a rub with a file to remove the fret part which helps the folding process but leaves tabs on the top edge.

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Stuck on.

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Emergency brake parts are stuck on with epoxy glue also.

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The vac pipes are now soldered on with 70deg solder to the side of the coupler chassis bracket. The upstand pipe is supposed to lean over like that!

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And finally the last parts to the chassis- the lower side step/running boards.

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That completes the chassis and roof which are now ready to start painting. The body requires the internal partitions and then its ready for painting also.

Two of the four coaches are at this stage..... another two to go!!

Eoin

 

 

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3 minutes ago, popeye said:

I usually keep my couplers nearly level with the buffers and they work fine, it also

keeps everything close together. =D

Yes, the coach in the photos was the first attempt on positioning the couplers. I have now cnc'd out a revised brass mounting bracket to pull the couplers back in closer to the buffer line- though the Dapol assembly conflicts with the bogie frames now! so the second coach at this stage of the build is the test bed to come up with a solution......

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1 hour ago, murrayec said:

Yes, the coach in the photos was the first attempt on positioning the couplers. I have now cnc'd out a revised brass mounting bracket to pull the couplers back in closer to the buffer line- though the Dapol assembly conflicts with the bogie frames now! so the second coach at this stage of the build is the test bed to come up with a solution......

Eoin

Yet again, Eoin, you've absolutely excelled yourself! Absolute masterclass, superb stuff!

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8 hours ago, popeye said:

Sometimes I cut the coupling where the red line is in the picture and make a 

new hole where the red spot is. It might keep it away from the axle.

I use different methods depending on how much room I have.

That's most likely what I will do, with the new mounting plate and a new hole as you suggest keeps the coupler away from hitting the bogie.

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This is how I resolved the coupler issue;-

Using the mounting part from the kit I cut it down to suit the Dapol coupler height.

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Then cut back the sides 6mm from the front along the half etch line and folded them in under the coupler fixing plate.

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This allows the bogie frame to swing in above the mounting plate without obstruction.

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Testing the bogie swing and locating the position to solder the coupler mounting to the chassis.

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Tapped spigots made up and using the offcuts to hold the Dapol spring plate in position.

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Soldered up.

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Soldered onto the chassis with coupler installed.

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This setup now has the coupler box flush with the buffer beam.

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I have neglected to post photos on this thread for a while! So all the coaches are now assembled except for the last few parts described below.

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The final soldered brass parts gone on - lamps on the roof of the duckets.

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Cutting out the compartment partitions in .5mm styrene sheet.

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Test fitted, I'm going to paint these separately and then glue them in. This will help with the coach internal wall painting and fitting the glazing.

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Fresh from the mini sandblaster.

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Nice silky finish perfect for paint.....

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......after a good wash though.

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All washed with warm water water n washing soda.

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Etch primer applied, a very light coat, just enough so that one can still see the brass under.

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Seats and partitions undercoated with grey enamel.

Just shown one of the 4 coaches, getting through it and colour will be next.......

Eoin.

 

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After a small little accident (not going to discuss here) we'r now back on track;-

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All the kits have had their interiors, partitions, seats, roof, chassis, and bogies painted.

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Some final filling on the brake/3rd roof where the birdcage was not installed.

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After the interior was painted cream the roof underside was masked off to paint the topside satin black. The black finish returns around the edge to the underside as the roof has a slight overhang over the body sides!

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This coach will be the worst kept of the 4 so a light wood brown under coat was used to simulate wood.

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Some weathering was was applied to give a bit of variation to the wood.

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Then lumps of maskol were applied to do the paint rip thing on the roof and the chassis. The body will be done later as the green paint is applied.

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Satin black top coat applied and Maskol removed, more weathering will be done later to complete the buzz.

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Just about to start the green........

Eoin

 

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59 minutes ago, murrayec said:

After a small little accident (not going to discuss here) we'r now back on track;-

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All the kits have had their interiors, partitions, seats, roof, chassis, and bogies painted.

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Some final filling on the brake/3rd roof where the birdcage was not installed.

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After the interior was painted cream the roof underside was masked off to paint the topside satin black. The black finish returns around the edge to the underside as the roof has a slight overhang over the body sides!

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This coach will be the worst kept of the 4 so a light wood brown under coat was used to simulate wood.

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Some weathering was was applied to give a bit of variation to the wood.

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Then lumps of maskol were applied to do the paint rip thing on the roof and the chassis. The body will be done later as the green paint is applied.

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Satin black top coat applied and Maskol removed, more weathering will be done later to complete the buzz.

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Just about to start the green........

Eoin

 

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These are going to looks class once painted….they already looks unbelievable

 

 

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With a break from modelling over Christmas and my place turned upside down due to a housing development going on beside me, I've got very little done on these models! Though back into it now......

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All masked up and ready for a bit of green.

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Maskol was applied for the badly kept coach!

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Base green undercoat applied.

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Two satin top coats applied.

Humbrol discontinuing their enamel paint range is a pain in the ass! All my colour mixes from over the years are now redundant and I have to start all over again.......

Eoin.

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13 minutes ago, murrayec said:

With a break from modelling over Christmas and my place turned upside down due to a housing development going on beside me, I've got very little done on these models! Though back into it now......

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All masked up and ready for a bit of green.

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Maskol was applied for the badly kept coach!

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Base green undercoat applied.

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Two satin top coats applied.

Humbrol discontinuing their enamel paint range is a pain in the ass! All my colour mixes from over the years are now redundant and I have to start all over again.......

Eoin.

Humbrol don’t really tell anyone about the cancer causing agent in there paint until the new EU rule came in and suddenly stopped it. Even marks models were supprised to find they were given little notice that they couldn’t sell it anymore…

 

cosches look deadly. Particularly in Green 

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11 hours ago, murrayec said:

With a break from modelling over Christmas and my place turned upside down due to a housing development going on beside me, I've got very little done on these models! Though back into it now......

6W-13020230118_161943.jpg.b46d3968453325fa75109c6766c23de9.jpg

All masked up and ready for a bit of green.

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Maskol was applied for the badly kept coach!

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Base green undercoat applied.

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Two satin top coats applied.

Humbrol discontinuing their enamel paint range is a pain in the ass! All my colour mixes from over the years are now redundant and I have to start all over again.......

Eoin.

Looking better and better and better and better and better........! Can't wait to see results!

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All masked up for painting the coach ends, Maskol was applied to the brake coach ends for weathering.

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Painted two coats of Satin black.

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Maskol being removed.

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Some internal paint touch ups is required, but ready for door handles and lining.

Eoin.

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Railtec decal lining & numbers going on;-

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Decals complete with a few coats of lacquer applied. I stuck to Railtec's instructions and stayed away from the 'Micro' solutions, but had a difficult time getting the decal lining to sit down over the panel details, used Humbrol Decalfix to assist in the end!

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Setting up the wheel axles, by cutting off the pin point ends and filing to size.

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Wheels being weathered before fitting to the chassis, this is the first coat of 'rust' applied. The cardboard masks were cut out on the Cameo Silhouette cutting machine- faster than using masking tape!

Eoin.

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14 minutes ago, murrayec said:

Railtec decal lining & numbers going on;-

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Decals complete with a few coats of lacquer applied. I stuck to Railtec's instructions and stayed away from the 'Micro' solutions, but had a difficult time getting the decal lining to sit down over the panel details, used Humbrol Decalfix to assist in the end!

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Setting up the wheel axles, by cutting off the pin point ends and filing to size.

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Wheels being weathered before fitting to the chassis, this is the first coat of 'rust' applied. The cardboard masks were cut out on the Cameo Silhouette cutting machine- faster than using masking tape!

Eoin.

STUNNING!!!!! The very very subtly faded look of the paintwork is just about as 100% photo-perfect as it's possible to get. The detailing is exquisite.....

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Another project back on the workbench after a modelling brake looking after family and the house;-

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First layer of weathering added to the chassis, this coach is the heavy weathered one, the other three will be lightly done.

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Wheels on, the wheel sets are held in place by a .5mm brass wire epoxied on.

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Partitions and seats installed.

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Roof gas supply pipe installed.

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The four coaches are now ready for final weathering and lacquering, then the windows and door handles will be installed........

Nearly complete!!

Eoin.

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13 hours ago, murrayec said:

Another project back on the workbench after a modelling brake looking after family and the house;-

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First layer of weathering added to the chassis, this coach is the heavy weathered one, the other three will be lightly done.

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6W-16120230914_090024.jpg.7908d560475b4ff4eef2167b46e77e58.jpg

Wheels on, the wheel sets are held in place by a .5mm brass wire epoxied on.

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Partitions and seats installed.

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Roof gas supply pipe installed.

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The four coaches are now ready for final weathering and lacquering, then the windows and door handles will be installed........

Nearly complete!!

Eoin.

luverly stuff altogether

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