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019 never ran in that livery so don’t know how popular it would be. Personally I would love to see Class leader 001 in supertrain livery with highlighted front numbers and black roof panels as appeared in those publicity pictures certainly would be a seller for me . 018 looks great

Oh No ! Dont say the wrong shade of green , take cover incoming!!!

A thing of beauty, glad I ordered A23r.

I didn't mean Mk2 D and Cravens were compatable . When larege rakes of Mk2ds eight plus set were made up two mk2d EGVs were used , when large sets of cravens were used eight nine or ten cravens two GSV's were used one at each end .

I dont think they were compatable .The train was coupled together except for the electrical systems they were two seperate systems . A similer thing would happen with a eight piece plus Mk2D sets were used two EGVs would be used , also when more than eight cravens were used in a set two GSV's would be used one at each end an the electrical systemd split in the centre .

Presume there will be alternate notch controllers for the respective A (10 notch ) and Ar ( 8 notch ) ?

Think the loco was A16.

My Bachmann MK2A FK has 14 roof vents and looking at any pictures of MK2B FK's they also have 14 roof vents so pretty much the same .

The door bump stops on the CIE/IR coaches were always painted black so were more noticeable than on the BR coaches while I am certainly no expert but if you use the Bachmann Mk2a FK as a guide for roof vents I think they would be the same .

Looks great , glad you added the door bumpers , they are so distinctively Mk2 but have been omitted by nearly all manufacturers on Mk2 ROR versions .

A few cheap 121s from hattons with minor faults with them for anyone interested www.hattons.co.uk - Murphy Models MM0132-PO02 Class 121 132 in CIE 'Supertrain' livery - Pre-owned - grinding noise when running - minor chip to cab - damaged horn - two pipes not attached - Very good box www.hattons.co.uk - Murphy Models MM0132-PO04 Class 121 132 in CIE 'Supertrain' livery - Pre-owned - slight wobble in reverse - minor paint chip to side of the nose - axle boxes missing on one bogie - Loose handrail - Very good box www.hattons.co.uk - Murphy Models MM0126-PO Class 121 126 in CIE 'Supertrain' livery - Pre-owned - Only picks up from one bogie - Very good box www.hattons.co.uk - Murphy Models MM0135-PO01 Class 121 B135 in CIE original grey livery - Pre-owned - Missing handrail - Very good box www.hattons.co.uk - Murphy Models MM0121-PO01 Class 121 B121 in CIE original grey livery - Pre-owned - Light bleeding through red lens - Very good box

In the main when the Mk2a b c coaches were introduced the window frames were in silver , no doubt some appeared with black frames in IR livery as they went for repaints . The MK2c is coverted from a Mk2e so roof hatches were on them the Ro Vac vents came from shapeways .

Here’s a couple of mine Mk2’s 4113 Mk2a FK converted from a Bachmann Mk2a fk , MK2c FO converted from a Hornby Mk2e SO using a Brass overlay and a Dutch EGV body from DC Kits and bogies from silver fox . Bit of a hotchpotch of coaches .

The other advantage of the Extreme etchings window frame is if your doing the IR livery the window frames were silver this was changed to black when they got the IE livery .

No instructions I’m afraid. But they fit exactly over the Lima window. You could paint them first and stick the cut acetate sheet to and then to the coach provided the acetate sheet is very thin , otherwise you would have to fit int the frame from the inside. The other thing you can do is leave some of the sliders open to add authenticity a cut the glazing accordingly . Note the frame is on lt sitting loose on the window I would remove the bars from the inside of the frames on the coach prior to fitting.

Yes there is no laserglaze for them you would have to cut acetate sheet to fit and fitting the sliders can be tricky . They are only for Mk2Z A B , no MK2C , There is MK2D E F available , but if your looking for the toilet windows for Mk2c get some of the Mk2 z,a,b etches and a MK3 sleeper set that would give you enough frames to do a couple of Mk 2 C coaches . I notice on his site the EEED4007 is now Mk2z-c he maybe they are including the Mk2c toilet windows now ?. Perhaps email Brian at Shawplan I have found him to be very heplful in the past ,

That sounds like a serious amount of work would you try extreme etchings window frames from shawplan and cut out the old frame the level of detail in the extreme etchings frame is brilliant.

They still look suberb and great to see the old Lima Mk2b re purposed although an old model which has its faults , you have shown what can be done with a little thought and a really good paint job.

Roof vents try Southern Pride models they also do mk2 roof hatches

Super work Phillip, if your doing 4401/4402 the two details which can be added are the roof vents which were straight in line as they were ec FK corridor coaches another detail which shouts Mk2b were the black bump stops on the doors Lima omitted these but they do make the coach standout .

They look great

I think the roof hatch was possibly used for access to the water storage tank for the toilets? I dont think they went out of their way to make them like MK2c's the majority of the conversions were ex MK2c FO five of them so it was a matter of using similar interior's materials wise . If your doing a 4402/4401 buffet a good place to start is a LIMA MK2b FK while not perfect comparied to the Bachmann Mk2's this can be picked around the place pretty cheaply and with a little effort can be made into an acceptable converson .

Your correct they are difficult to model as they are unique, both 4401 and 4402 are ex Br Mk2b FKs these coaches were completely gutted and rebuilt buy IE using new and replacement parts so Thaler had bits of everything on them 4402 had roof hatches fitted similar to the later Mk2 c/d , it also had a replacement door off a mk2d with vent at the top of the door very unusual.

How about a CIE GUY tractor unit or AEC Mandator in black or orange with bulk cement trailer which would go very nicely along side the Bulk Cement Wagons ?

Fingers crossed Patrick!!!!!!!