Noel Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Looking good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishthump Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 19 minutes ago, derek said: Bridge in and painted. Road also in place.... Scenery next....Well that messy white aeroboardy stuff before the actual scenery I suppose Nice work! Can I give you a little tip for the road surface? I always find black is a little harsh for tarmac, try rubbing down the road surface with a very fine sandpaper. It gives a lovely worn appearance. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gortalainn Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Looks very well! I'm a big fan of that bridge, it really looks the part. I agree with @irishthump re the black, the only roads I've seem to be pitch black are if they're freshly laid or if they're soaked after a good shower. I find a blue-grey with hints of brown can look very convincing, so a pass of the sandpaper would do it wonders, especially in the middle to replicate darker patches in the tyre tracks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrovik Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Road bridge looking lovely derek, and your scratchbuilt footbridge from earlier in the thread is better than i could hope to create right now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Fair dues Derek, you nailed it, it's a lovely little bridge, well done lad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 23 hours ago, irishthump said: Nice work! Can I give you a little tip for the road surface? I always find black is a little harsh for tarmac, try rubbing down the road surface with a very fine sandpaper. It gives a lovely worn appearance. 22 hours ago, Gortalainn said: Looks very well! I'm a big fan of that bridge, it really looks the part. I agree with @irishthump re the black, the only roads I've seem to be pitch black are if they're freshly laid or if they're soaked after a good shower. I find a blue-grey with hints of brown can look very convincing, so a pass of the sandpaper would do it wonders, especially in the middle to replicate darker patches in the tyre tracks. Thanks for the tips lads, and for all the kind words from the other lads. Always encouraging. As regards the black colour, I can see that it is far too black and "new" looking ok. I will definitely try to tone it down some, using the methods you suggested. But to be honest, as the black is just emulsion like the rest of the layout, it doesn't take long for the sheen to disappear. By the time I have this scene completed, the thing will be "pure manky" 21 hours ago, Metrovik said: Road bridge looking lovely derek, and your scratchbuilt footbridge from earlier in the thread is better than i could hope to create right now! Thanks, but you need to have a bit more faith in your own abilities. Your station roof on your layout is the business. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Interestingly, (well, if you have little else going on at some point), it can be informative to spend some time looking at various random samples of tarmac as you go about your daily rituals. The variations in colour can be surprising, at times it can even be almost a light grey, and no two pieces, laid at different times, will ever be the same colour, or even remotely similar. The wear of the tyre runs and the scuffing of the surface at bends and junctions, particularly from three-axle trailers, can also be worthy of note. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Surface texture too, with 600 grit wet and dry paper more than enough. Alternatively talc on dark grey enamel paint works well - even in 7mm scale. Were there as many pot holes back in the day, compared to now? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, David Holman said: Surface texture too, with 600 grit wet and dry paper more than enough. Alternatively talc on dark grey enamel paint works well - even in 7mm scale. Were there as many pot holes back in the day, compared to now? As far as Ireland was concerned, WAAY more! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 21 hours ago, jhb171achill said: As far as Ireland was concerned, WAAY more! The pothole situation has basically reversed. I spend time in Laois and Staffordshire, within a few hundred yards of the same latitude and a mere 220 miles apart. I hear people in Laois moan about the roads and try to explain the state of things to the east - and I realise that I sound like I'm making it up. My house there is on a secondary main road into a town of 70,000 people. Every time it rains, the road floods like this. It's been doing this, at an increasing rate, since 1980. It probably blocks the road about 25 to 30 times a year now. The flood in that picture was there for six days. The potholes are legendary, all over the road network. Driving on roads that you don't have experience of, in the dark or in wet weather, is fraught with danger - you can easily end up hitting a big one. The half-finished ring-road round the town (started in 1935) has had unnecessary 'temporary' traffic lights on it, that will stop you every time, since July 2017 - 24hours a day, permanently. Driving in the Republic gives one a great sense of relief, not foreboding... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphaph Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Our town in Germany, not 20km from the capital city still has several unmetalled roads that get graded in spring before cratering and falling apart again a few weeks later! Ours was metalled for the first time in 2015! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Climate change and railway modelling! Modern image folk seem to have new challenges - pot holes, flash flooding and storms. DCC control for any of these? Seem to remember there was a gizmo to make a tree fall down a while back, though must have looked very odd in reverse... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 5 hours ago, David Holman said: Climate change and railway modelling! Modern image folk seem to have new challenges - pot holes, flash flooding and storms. DCC control for any of these? Seem to remember there was a gizmo to make a tree fall down a while back, though must have looked very odd in reverse... Any 00 scale mobile phone masts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 I did notice some very pale tarmac last night and forgot to get a picture going past this morning, but Street View does it well enough. That is the actual tarmac surface, not a layer of debris, and not much darker than the concrete, https://www.google.com/maps/@52.8555049,-7.5848455,3a,56y,186.43h,50.68t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8a5CdK72i8-DsGJ5bKnp9w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D8a5CdK72i8-DsGJ5bKnp9w%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D186.42561092700657%26pitch%3D39.31964564632779%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 On 17/6/2024 at 9:30 PM, David Holman said: Surface texture too, with 600 grit wet and dry paper more than enough. Alternatively talc on dark grey enamel paint works well - even in 7mm scale. Were there as many pot holes back in the day, compared to now? Reminds me of the tale of the Kerryman and the Yank driving the Ring of Kerry, with the Kerryman giving out hell about the amount of potholes in the road. Not wanting his pal to feel too bad about the place, the Yank said, "It's not too bad . Look there, you can see the top of that rabbit's ears sticking out of that hole". "That's not a rabbit", replied the Kerryman, "that's a donkey!" 22 hours ago, Broithe said: The pothole situation has basically reversed. I spend time in Laois and Staffordshire, within a few hundred yards of the same latitude and a mere 220 miles apart. I hear people in Laois moan about the roads and try to explain the state of things to the east - and I realise that I sound like I'm making it up. My house there is on a secondary main road into a town of 70,000 people. Every time it rains, the road floods like this. It's been doing this, at an increasing rate, since 1980. It probably blocks the road about 25 to 30 times a year now. The flood in that picture was there for six days. The potholes are legendary, all over the road network. Driving on roads that you don't have experience of, in the dark or in wet weather, is fraught with danger - you can easily end up hitting a big one. The half-finished ring-road round the town (started in 1935) has had unnecessary 'temporary' traffic lights on it, that will stop you every time, since July 2017 - 24hours a day, permanently. Driving in the Republic gives one a great sense of relief, not foreboding... That's what I will do with my road. Just cover it in water and half submerge a car or two. No worries about colour then 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) 6 minutes ago, derek said: Reminds me of the tale of the Kerryman and the Yank driving the Ring of Kerry, with the Kerryman giving out hell about the amount of potholes in the road. Not wanting his pal to feel too bad about the place, the Yank said, "It's not too bad . Look there, you can see the top of that rabbit's ears sticking out of that hole". "That's not a rabbit", replied the Kerryman, "that's a donkey!" Brilliant Edited June 19 by Gabhal Luimnigh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 Enough already with the crazy talk, back to the matter in hand. Got busy with the styrofoam. Taking shape slowly... Still need to address the road colour. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Nice progress Derek, if I was you I'd pull the styrofoam back from the two sides of the bridge, show more of the stone work, just my own thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 (edited) 22 hours ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said: Nice progress Derek, if I was you I'd pull the styrofoam back from the two sides of the bridge, show more of the stone work, just my own thoughts You could be right Denis, but too late I'm afraid. Grass work has already commenced. Pics to follow. Ah, I will live with it. And if I still not happy, I will rip it out and fix it. Wouldn't be the first time Edited June 21 by derek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 13 minutes ago, derek said: You could be right Denis, but too late I'm afraid. Grass work has already commenced. Pics to follow. Ah, I will live with it. And if I still not happy, I will rip it out and fix it. Wouldn't be the first time It's silage season, cut the grass 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted June 30 Author Share Posted June 30 The scene around the bridge is more or less done now. Pillars added to ends of bridge and fencing erected. Fences to be put in on the left side in due course. Also made a start on the station car park. Gave the black road surface a rub of 180 grit paper and it looks a bit better now I think? I know the fences are unlike anything in real life, but I like them so live with it. To paraphrase Brendan Grace in Father Ted "I'm having fun and that's all that matters". 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Looks great Derek, the road is spot on too, it's a lovely layout. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Fantastic work in such a short space of time - very well done! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted June 30 Author Share Posted June 30 21 minutes ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said: Looks great Derek, the road is spot on too, it's a lovely layout. 4 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: Fantastic work in such a short space of time - very well done! Thanks for the positive comments lads. Really encouraging- keeps a man going 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gortalainn Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 That's looking very well Derek, great inspiration for when I can get some time at home to start on my own layout. The road looks fantastic now you've put some sandpaper to it, that fence isn't too far off what you'd see at the new junction from Clon to Reenascreena either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted July 1 Author Share Posted July 1 5 hours ago, Gortalainn said: That's looking very well Derek, great inspiration for when I can get some time at home to start on my own layout. The road looks fantastic now you've put some sandpaper to it, that fence isn't too far off what you'd see at the new junction from Clon to Reenascreena either! Thanks. Yeah, I knew I had seen that fence somewhere........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted July 4 Author Share Posted July 4 Look who's back. Finally got my dodgy 181 back- now no longer dodgy. (details are set out in "general chat/ MM0174A). I won't repeat them here. Quick question- would the black n tan look better pulling the cravens rather than the A class. I had intended to use the b n t for freight but now I not so sure. And I know I can always swap around but just looking for opinions..... And then a ghost wagon turned up on the layout. Finally got around to making a start on one of @leslie10646 cattle wagons. Been at home for the past week with another bout of the ol' covid so it was a welcome distraction. I put my drops of superglue on the front of an old Woodland Scenics bag and it took the green paint with it as I used it. At least I could definitely tell where the glue was going Roof not fixed, just "snapped" into place 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 Here are some pics of the finished area around the new bridge. And I know the road looks very black. This is because it was raining the day I took pics. Also, because I forgot to sand the road. Its on the list of things to do 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Bloody brilliant lad, I love the bridge. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 That last pic is a charmer! The bridge sits nicely in the landscape and I love the track curving away out of sight 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 16 minutes ago, Tullygrainey said: That last pic is a charmer! The bridge sits nicely in the landscape and I love the track curving away out of sight Thanks Alan. That is the effect I was after, and a lot of the reason for the position of the bridge Hoping to get a good video of a train appearing around the curve and emerging from under the bridge. Hopefully......................... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Looks great. Agree with Alan re last photo / fabulous! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flange lubricator Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Looks fantastic love the bridge did you make it’s from scratch? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 2 minutes ago, Galteemore said: Looks great. Agree with Alan re last photo / fabulous! Thanks, have to give credit to @fergalm1 here. His bridge on BORRIS was the inspiritation for mine. shur we have to get our ideas somewhere Just now, flange lubricator said: Looks fantastic love the bridge did you make it’s from scratch? Yeah, from DAS clay. Made a template to get the overall shape and etched out the stones while clay was still "wet". I showed some basic shots of it earlier in the tread. Thanks for the kind comment 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flange lubricator Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 It’s fantastic very Irish look to it . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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