Genuine Railwayana

[Westcorkrailway]

Tell you what, wouldn’t mind if they made these as well and an EMD version. Reckon they would be a nice way to raise some cash

[Colin_McLeod]

On 5/7/2024 at 8:40 AM, airfixfan said:

For sale the Fintona Tram Horse only one owner!

Is there a current veterinary report?   

[jhb171achill]

42 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said:

Is there a current veterinary report?   

It comes with a taxidermists's certificate.

[minister_for_hardship]

16 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Doubtless this is correct. I’m pretty certain none had aluminium plates in real life.

When first outshopped I believe the originals were painted black and letters and border picked out in silver, latterly they were plastered over with layers of black and orange paint.

The replicas have no fixing studs either so that's another pointer to never having been fixed to a loco. I remember seeing them being sold at an ITG sales stand years ago.

[Westcorkrailway]

4 hours ago, minister_for_hardship said:

When first outshopped I believe the originals were painted black and letters and border picked out in silver, latterly they were plastered over with layers of black and orange paint.

The replicas have no fixing studs either so that's another pointer to never having been fixed to a loco. I remember seeing them being sold at an ITG sales stand years ago.

Yes the metrovic plate in my “my local area” has a layer of orange paint on it 

[BSGSV]

On 7/7/2024 at 8:39 AM, minister_for_hardship said:

When first outshopped I believe the originals were painted black and letters and border picked out in silver, latterly they were plastered over with layers of black and orange paint.

The replicas have no fixing studs either so that's another pointer to never having been fixed to a loco. I remember seeing them being sold at an ITG sales stand years ago.

Yes, the aluminium one does look like an ITG production which were produced for selling on the sales stand on railtours, and also got kept by some to put on their wall, as the mounting studs on the real ones make that a slight problem.

Some were also drilled and used on the preserved ones, A3 and A39, as the originals had disappeared by the time the locos came into ITG ownership.

[Broithe]

I would expect a 1955 one to be brass. MetroVick became part of AEI, before all that was eaten up by GEC in the late 60s.

Where I worked went the same "financial efficiency" way - we had cast brass plates, then cast aluminium, then stamped brass, then just printed onto anodised aluminium sheet.

If it was still surviving, it would be crayon on old egg boxes by now.

[minister_for_hardship]

On 26/6/2024 at 6:11 PM, jhb171achill said:

Similar can be seen in use at Inch Abbey and Downpatrick 

Not the best quality image, found while clearing phone of messages.

[WRENNEIRE]

GNRI Lamp
Needs a hat!

[WRENNEIRE]

2 badges

 

[DERAILED]

Another nice poster sold at South Dublin Auctions a few minutes ago. The frame would indicate that it is genuine but given that there's no public viewing of their sales I would be reluctant to fork out €360 plus commission without physically checking it out. This poster by Costelloe has been reproduced in recent years.

 

[WRENNEIRE]

Not quite Railwayana but maybe of interest:

 

[minister_for_hardship]

I'm assuming that's a very old ad. The buildings are crumbling shells now. Wonder who bought it, if indeed it was ever sold?

[jhb171achill]

23 minutes ago, minister_for_hardship said:

I'm assuming that's a very old ad. The buildings are crumbling shells now. Wonder who bought it, if indeed it was ever sold?

I would guess this would be when CIE closed it, so probably 1963/4-ish?

 

[Westcorkrailway]

Possibly never sold. I’d love to see what CIE still own cause they still own books and crannies all over the place 

[ttc0169]

4 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Not quite Railwayana but maybe of interest:

 

February 2023-60 years later it's still there underneath the undergrowth….no takers….

 

[Mayner]

53 minutes ago, ttc0169 said:

February 2023-60 years later it's still there underneath the undergrowth….no takers….

 

Station remained open for goods (Polloxfens mills) and as a crossing place until mid -70s after closing for passenger traffic 63/64.

Buildings were reasonably intact when I checked out the station about 40 years ago interestingly remains (chassis) of derlict road vehicles possibly school buses in the yard. CIE may have used the station as a base for railhead delivery and school bus services after passenger traffic ceased.

 

[jhb171achill]

It wasn't too bad until the roof started deteriorating, which from my own observations was about 6-7 years ago. It's beyond hope now, unbfortunately.

[ttc0169]

53 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

It wasn't too bad until the roof started deteriorating, which from my own observations was about 6-7 years ago. It's beyond hope now, unbfortunately.

Trespass was an issue a few years ago-not anymore since the steel fencing was erected around the site and station buildings 

[GSR 800]

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

It wasn't too bad until the roof started deteriorating, which from my own observations was about 6-7 years ago. It's beyond hope now, unbfortunately.

I don't know, look at Streamstown then and now 

Where there's a will and plenty of dosh, there's a way...

[minister_for_hardship]

12 hours ago, GSR 800 said:

I don't know, look at Streamstown then and now 

Where there's a will and plenty of dosh, there's a way...

The "will" part is lacking in many places.

[jhb171achill]

41 minutes ago, minister_for_hardship said:

The "will" part is lacking in many places.

Indeed. Like railway preservation, many recognise the historical or cultural value, but ask them to give up their time to make it happen, or worse, get out their wallet, and it's someone else's job to do that..........

[jhb171achill]

On 27/7/2024 at 1:44 AM, WRENNEIRE said:

2 badges

 

The top one is Dublin United Tramways - very rare! Only made between 1941 & 1945, then when it became the overall CIE logo, the writing disappeared.

[minister_for_hardship]

Another dud doing the rounds.

[jhb171achill]

3 hours ago, minister_for_hardship said:

Another dud doing the rounds.

Scary thing is how "distressed" and realistic many of these awful things look. Nice for a wall in a pub, but it's not good to see people being misled and scammed, thinking they have a genuine antique when it isn't. The several variations of this once-standard GSWR sign are now so plentiful that it takes a very skilled eye indeed to tell what IS genuine and what isn't. No doubt this one relates to the historic Lissue & Bloemfontein Railway.

[airfixfan]

Surely Londonderry and Boston Railway?

[jhb171achill]

On 27/5/2024 at 12:06 PM, Westcorkrailway said:

It was even suggested that muskerry and CBPR were to be linked cork city railways style by the tram network. Not sure if anything was ever moved in this way though 

It was considered but never happened.

[Westcorkrailway]

2 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

It was considered but never happened.

I’m told that the tram network was used for the delivery of some muskerry stock from the port of cork to western road. 

Edited October 15 by Westcorkrailway

[jhb171achill]

43 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

I’m told that the tram network was used for the delivery of some muskerry stock from the port of cork to western road. 

It's possible, but there was actually a half-inch gauge difference! Do-able, though.

[Mayner]

40 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

It's possible, but there was actually a half-inch gauge difference! Do-able, though.

Apparently the tramway gauge was set narrower than 3ft to allow the flanges of railway wagons to run in the groove of the tramway track. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_Electric_Tramways_and_Lighting_Company

[jhb171achill]

3 hours ago, Mayner said:

Apparently the tramway gauge was set narrower than 3ft to allow the flanges of railway wagons to run in the groove of the tramway track. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_Electric_Tramways_and_Lighting_Company

Correct - I think it was a half-inch difference or thereabouts.

[bufferstop]

https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/74c4f0c008962c5976524e0486da7d81/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/our-upcoming-live-auction-will-feature-jewellery-antiq-lot-217/

This looks to be the genuine article. Can't figure out, how they were going to load/unload cattle at intermediate stations based on that timetable.....

[jhb171achill]

43 minutes ago, bufferstop said:

https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/74c4f0c008962c5976524e0486da7d81/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/our-upcoming-live-auction-will-feature-jewellery-antiq-lot-217/

This looks to be the genuine article. Can't figure out, how they were going to load/unload cattle at intermediate stations based on that timetable.....

They simply advertised the departure times. The train will have arrived a good bit earlier and / or the wagons will have been left there there previous day and loaded before the train arrives, when it will simply shunt them onto the back.

[minister_for_hardship]

11 hours ago, bufferstop said:

https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/74c4f0c008962c5976524e0486da7d81/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/our-upcoming-live-auction-will-feature-jewellery-antiq-lot-217/

This looks to be the genuine article. Can't figure out, how they were going to load/unload cattle at intermediate stations based on that timetable.....

Looks like a real handbill but going by the sheer amount of fakery passed off as the genuine article at auctions, I can't help suspecting this is a laser printed copy dunked in tea.

IF genuine, it's really rare as it's a throwaway sort of item.

[DERAILED]

This nice and seemingly genuine Cork, Bandon & South Coast Rly poster sold at O'Donovan's (Newcastle West) today for €180.00 - for nothing if the real deal: https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/8191c6612f862f237b43cfd9b7c3c715/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/a-wide-variety-of-antiques-and-collectibles-including-a-lot-37/