heirflick Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 hi lads - it never ceases to amaze me , that no matter where you go on this planit of ours , irish railway hstory always hits you in the face! just came back with my family from 'the algarve'. first night was spent (as you do) looking for an irish pub.....landed 10 minutes from our apartments in a place called Potomio and found this little gem of a pub called 'Irelands Eye' worst thing we ever did - never left the fecking place for the week!!! the thing that hit me was the history on the wall ... then cane the coup de grace - an arrival / departure notice board from limerick station from the steam era!..you couldn't shift me after this!........ Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Fake, you often find 'distressed' reproduction items in Paddywhackery pubs since supplies of the genuine article dried up. Font looks far too modern....Also: there hasn't been trains to Kinsale since the mid 30's, pretty unlikely a real destination board would retain such a long closed location, since when was there ever a direct Kinsale-Limerick and Baltimore-Limerick service and where the hell is 'Lough Hee'???? The tricolour border in the circular thing on top is a tad too convenient and Oirish for my liking as is the encirling text 'National Line Of Railway' sounds like it was manufactured in Beijing rather than Inchicore! Came across stained glass panels inset into timberwork with 'GSR' and CIE broken wheel logos in Perth (WA) once, with text in mis-spelt Irish decorating the walls. Sure as sugar they didn't come from the Emerald Isle. One place you will get some real articles is in the Pub in Fitzpatrick's Hotel in Manhattan...incl a brass nameplate off a loco named at the Inchicore 150th, the other ones sprouted legs and walked as they were stuck on with resin instead of being rivetted on! Edited July 1, 2013 by minister_for_hardship Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Check out this crowd Do loads of Oirish stuff for our friends across the pond http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Hand-Crafted-Irish-Welcome-Brass-Sign-Cead-Mile-Failte-/190764754561?pt=Plaques_Signs&hash=item2c6a772681 Usually have hundreds of bits on flea bay, but not a lot at the moment Emerald Isle Express loco plate is one of their star buys! Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Check out this crowdDo loads of Oirish stuff for our friends across the pond http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Hand-Crafted-Irish-Welcome-Brass-Sign-Cead-Mile-Failte-/190764754561?pt=Plaques_Signs&hash=item2c6a772681 Usually have hundreds of bits on flea bay, but not a lot at the moment Emerald Isle Express loco plate is one of their star buys! Seller should be renamed 'fakeirishstuff'. Would love to know who is churning out these babies (and derivatives thereof) by the bucketload. http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Irish-40-Shillings-Fine-Railway-Gate-Sign-Ireland-/190757780449?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6a0cbbe1 Quote
BosKonay Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 I love the 'original' viking 'weapon' http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Ancient-Ireland-Viking-Weapon-Irish-Weaponry-Unusual-Old-Rare-Replica-/190684995563?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c65b61feb Quote
Glenderg Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 I also do ransom notes better get back to work... Quote
patrick Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 http://www.barewalls.com/pv-450111_Ireland-by-CIE.html Maureen found this on line recently while looking for artwork for the layout area. I have never seen this image before. Does anyone have any information about it? Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) http://www.barewalls.com/pv-450111_Ireland-by-CIE.html Maureen found this on line recently while looking for artwork for the layout area. I have never seen this image before. Does anyone have any information about it? Artwork by someone called 'Curran' for CIE poster, around mid/late 50's when A Class were still in silver, full version here, another version has alternative wording for US market, offices in New York, Chicago, LA, etc: http://www.irishrailwayana.com/CIEposA2L.jpg Not of any actual location in particular, seems a trippy mish mash of somewhere on the South Eastern with a bit of the lakes of Killarney thrown in. Note cab that looks a bit early Sulzer-ish and interesting double brake hoses! Edited July 1, 2013 by minister_for_hardship Quote
Riversuir226 Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Reminds me of the GWR signage from the early 20th century, back then there was two ways of getting to Killarney by train from the uk, one via Cork on the Prince of Wales route and the second via Rosslare. There was a special from Paddington on a Friday evening, that would give you a full day in Killarney and get you back to London in time for work on monday morning. I have the final traffic book of New Ross Station which i was given in 1997 when the station building got knocked down, i ve also got a West cork milepost, a fixed signal off the Dungarvan line and a passenger ticket from the Macroom line. On the West Cork line milepost, i ve seen knock off examples which it wouldn t take an expert to figure out there not genuine. Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 A Macroom ticket is a rare item, more so if it's been dated and used. Quote
Riversuir226 Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 A Macroom ticket is a rare item, more so if it's been dated and used. Its from 1931, it was given to me about 10 years ago. It has been used small bit cut of the side. I ll have a look for it later and i ll post up a pic of it Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 The GSR only ran passenger services up until 1935, so for a period of only 10 years that they issued tickets like that. Might have had the odd excursion before it closed completely but that was pretty much it. Nice find. Quote
DERAILED Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 hi lads - it never ceases to amaze me , that no matter where you go on this planit of ours , irish railway hstory always hits you in the face! just came back with my family from 'the algarve'. first night was spent (as you do) looking for an irish pub.....landed 10 minutes from our apartments in a place called Potomio and found this little gem of a pub called 'Irelands Eye' worst thing we ever did - never left the fecking place for the week!!! the thing that hit me was the history on the wall ... then cane the coup de grace - an arrival / departure notice board from limerick station from the steam era!..you couldn't shift me after this!........ Oh dear, what a mess and to think that somebody obviously spent money on getting this made. Where is 'Lough Hee' between Claremorris and Galway - or is that how the translator in India/China or wherever spells Loughrea? And, where on earth is the New Castle listed on the board under Kilkee? Quote
DERAILED Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Here's another of Curran's idealised visions of CIE's trains which appears on a recent postcard. Quote
Garfield Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Seeing as Curran's work has been mentioned a few times on this thread, here's something I picked up some time ago... It's a Radio Train brochure produced around 1957/1958 and aimed at American tourists planning a trip to Ireland. Quote
jhb171achill Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Virtually everything you see like this in pubs is fake. To check out real railway artefacts, a visit to Headhunters in Enniskillen, or Cultra, or the small exhibitis in Downpatrick, or Hell's Kitchen in Castlerea are the places where the real deal can be seen. Quote
heirflick Posted July 9, 2013 Author Posted July 9, 2013 Virtually everything you see like this in pubs is fake. . lesson well learnt! but try and remember that by the time we arrived at this pub every night it was after several buckets of the local brew - all followed by free shots of some discusting horse p*ss (it seemed the thing to do at the time!), so i wouldnt have recognised the Pope if he was in front of me i must admit that it did give a nice atmosphere to the place. Quote
jhb171achill Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 And who is this "Curran" whose poster is displayed by the "Irish Narrow Gate Trust"? What, in railway terminology, is a "narrow gate"? Something designed to prevent a train going somewhere? Quote
jhb171achill Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Heirflick - i think I saw the Pope in me local the other night.... someone was buying me shots.... is there a connection? Quote
heirflick Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 Heirflick - i think I saw the Pope in me local the other night.... someone was buying me shots.... is there a connection? nah...it was a mirage brought on by your terrible thirst!!! Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 And who is this "Curran" whose poster is displayed by the "Irish Narrow Gate Trust"? What, in railway terminology, is a "narrow gate"? Something designed to prevent a train going somewhere? According to a piece on the National Museum's website "Probably Belfast based William Curran who won a Bord Fáilte anti-litter poster competition in 1967" As for a 'narrow gate', maybe a 'wicket gate'! Quote
jhb171achill Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Those posters LOOK genuine enough in terms of both artwork, artistic style and subject matter, but I have doubts about the print font used for "IRELAND". Quote
DERAILED Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Spotted this 'rarity' in a recent Munster Antiques sale - being sold as a Cork & Bandon sign. Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Was it being sold as the 'real deal' or as a replica...of sorts? Seriously though, who the hell is making this stuff? Quote
DERAILED Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Was it being sold as the 'real deal' or as a replica...of sorts? Seriously though, who the hell is making this stuff? Lot 739: Railway sign start bid €20 - Cast iron railway sign "Cork and Bandon" Estimate: 40-60 The auctioneers blurb (above) leaves it up to the buyer! Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 He probably knows full well it's only a tenner scrap value. The description should include 'replica' or 'reproduction'...but business is business (I know it is neither replica nor repro, just a work of fiction) Quote
Broithe Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Could always try selling it nearer London - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_and_Brixton_Railway ... Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Plate from an Oil Tanker, I think it made €200 recently Plate says "This wagon must be quite full or empty while travelling on the Irish Railways" Quote
aclass007 Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I know it's a long shot, but seeing a thread about railway memorabilia, I just thought I'd ask... Does anyone know where I might come on a Metropolitan Vickers builders plate, that was fitted to the outside of the A class locos, with the words: Metropolitan Vickers 1955: on it? I know they are still in existence, but I assume they don't come up for sale very often. Quote
aclass007 Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I wasn't suggesting you prised it off the side of a C class! lol I mean, it came from a C class.... Any harm to ask how much one of these goes for at auction? Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Would love to tell you but Granny Bracken sometimes looks at the site......................... Quote
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