gm171 kk Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Does anyone know what length the ammonia tankers were and was it the 42ft or 47ft flat wagons that carried the water tanks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jhb171achill Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I have a silent colour cine clip of those things going out on a trial run somewhere.... must dig it out. I caught them passing through Kildare one evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 You'll be happy to know that I've started in earnest on the patterns for the Ammonia Tankers, and a highly detailed version of the barrier wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BabyGM Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 You'll be happy to know that I've started in earnest on the patterns for the Ammonia Tankers, and a highly detailed version of the barrier wagon. That's great news! Any hints on price or release date? Also are you still planning on doing a 42' Flat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Riversuir226 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Excellent news Des, will they be resin or metal? Used to love watching the ammonia run in the early 90's, the A class's were so dirty even Anto would blush! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Riversuir226 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Richie, Paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stsammoniabogie For the UK versions, The ho guage wagons would require widening, larger bodies and a hell of lot of filling and scraping. Height wise their lower than the ifi ones. If all that takes your fancy I have 2 of them you can sort out for me;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Riversuir226 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Richie, Paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stsammoniabogie For the UK versions, The ho guage wagons would require widening, larger bodies and a hell of lot of filling and scraping. Height wise their lower than the ifi ones. If all that takes your fancy I have 2 of them you can sort out for me;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) That's great news!Any hints on price or release date? Also are you still planning on doing a 42' Flat? I'm looking at c.€45 per kit. The chassis will be a hollow folded brass construction to match the prototype, brass etched detailing (handrails, hooks, screwlink couplings etc.) and the main tanker itself will be a brass tube with resin endcaps. Decals will of course be included. The bogies will be folded brass with brass axle bearings and whitemetal detailing to ensure smooth, true running. The bachmann Y25s are just too narrow under the bogie to be really suitable (and very, very expensive). If there is sufficient interest, I may do a rake of five at a discounted rate. The 42' will be coming out at the same time as it shares a lot of features (bogies, buffers etc.), and of course I will need one for the barrier wagon. Edited January 6, 2013 by Weshty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BabyGM Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'm looking at c.€45 per kit. The chassis will be a hollow folded brass construction to match the prototype, brass etched detailing (handrails, hooks, screwlink couplings etc.) and the main tanker itself will be a brass tube with resin endcaps. Decals will of course be included. The bogies will be folded brass with brass axle bearings and whitemetal detailing to ensure smooth, true running. The bachmann Y25s are just too narrow under the bogie to be really suitable (and very, very expensive). If there is sufficient interest, I may do a rake of five at a discounted rate. The 42' will be coming out at the same time as it shares a lot of features (bogies, buffers etc.), and of course I will need one for the barrier wagon. Sounds Great:-bd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest hidden-agenda Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 That sounds great Des as the MIR version was a great looking wagon but far too heavy. You have done your home work on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Des, I believe there is a keen interest in these wagons and of course any flats. Looking forward to a release date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Des,I believe there is a keen interest in these wagons and of course any flats. Looking forward to a release date. Thanks Kirley, I'll keep ye up to date with developments in terms of bogie and buffer design etc, as well as how I propose the chassis will go together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I'm looking at c.€45 per kit. If there is sufficient interest, I may do a rake of five at a discounted rate. The 42' will be coming out at the same time as Fantastic news Weshty regarding the ammonia tanker/42' flat. Would you maybe consider doing a rake of 6 at the discounted rate as they always seemed to run regularly in rakes of 6. Or even a set of 6 tanks and 2 barrier wagons. Once again well done looking forward to this release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Anthony, If the market is there, it will be done ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Anthony, If the market is there, it will be done ;-) Brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 dave182 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Des, and everyone else, here's a useful picture that I hadn't seen before http://www.geograph.ie/photo/2678387 Quite a good amount of railway content on geograph.ie, and wouldn't be the first place you would think of looking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Dare I say that's a very very pretty wagon pristine! The lovely green underframe, pristine glowing white shell! © Copyright Albert Bridge and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Dare I say that's a very very pretty wagon pristine! The lovely green underframe, pristine glowing white shell! [ATTACH=CONFIG]5145[/ATTACH] © Copyright Albert Bridge and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence. Oh that's just lovely...thanking you sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Robert Davies Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Dare I say that's a very very pretty wagon pristine! The lovely green underframe, pristine glowing white shell! Just adding to the 'things I didn't know list' - Ammonia bogie wagon underframes are really green under all that **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Yup. And detailed photos are as rare as hen's teeth so this one is well special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Dare I say that's a very very pretty wagon pristine! The lovely green underframe, pristine glowing white shell! [ATTACH=CONFIG]5145[/ATTACH] © Copyright Albert Bridge and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence. :drool::drool::drool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest hidden-agenda Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 The buffer beams look tall in the pic compared to other pics and video,s and also the MIR model.Any body else notice this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glenderg Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Seems fine, based on other photos I have. Even the UK variety by Fauve-Girel have the same high bufferbeam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Garfield Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 That's one of the steam cranes behind the ammonia wagon in the second photo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 The buffer beams look tall in the pic compared to other pics and video,s and also the MIR model.Any body else notice this? Very much already noted and will be included as part of the new model...along with the handwheels, side hooks, under hooks, vertical noticeboard for warning info etc.... ;-) Though if ANYBODY had a decent non-grainy photo to indicate what the hell that central underframe cabinet looks like, it would be deeply appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 gm171 kk Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 I can't wait for the release of these wagons. Will the flats be metal or resin and what price will they be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 The flats will be metal, fold and slot brass construction, very simple but effective and accurate. No soldering needed. Rough price €25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 gm171 kk Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Brilliant, I look forward to the release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Not IE - but may help http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stsammoniabogie/h3424c2c1#h34fdc15a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 In N (from the RMweb archive) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BabyGM Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Great pictures The tanker in the first picture looks freshly painted and then the A class the opposite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Lovely photos, but does ANYONE have an up close and personal of the underframe box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glenderg Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 This is the only one I can find that highlights the detail. No closer though Perhaps Paul Bartlett might have a high rez version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 [ATTACH=CONFIG]5190[/ATTACH] This is the only one I can find that highlights the detail. No closer though Perhaps Paul Bartlett might have a high rez version? I bought the digital version of the four off him (well they were only 50p each, and they're not too bad. Might chase him up for higher res, as there is no detail in the dark when you dicky around with the image.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glenderg Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Nice one - I hope you get to the end of the mystery. Sometimes inverting the image in photoshop provides a bit more detail. From the drawings it's the housing for the intake & extract valves, which appears to be about 600mm deep, and looks like it has a locking handle to keep the door shut in case of leaks. The bottom spar just looks like the cradle for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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