Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Howcome there are neither any up to date photos on the Murphy Models website nor and pre-production model to view in Marks Models? . That question would be best answered by emailing Murphy Models as Murphy Models does not have an official spokesman on this site. Quote
connollystn Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Ah! I'm not that desperate to see new photos, those posted by the Model Shop Belfast will suffice. The one thing which I like about the new model is that the handrails seem to be a little more robust than those on the class 141/181 models and the detail of the light clusters are far superior. Quote
Weshty Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 I don't know Des, sometimes you get ideas and before you know it you're turning it into an obsession. I have been taking a look at Brassmaster point rodding, pulleys and all other matter of detailing bits and bobs. I like the look of the Colin Craig etches for trackwork also. Rich, "Brassmaster point rodding, pulleys and all other matter of detailing bits and bobs. " Oh Lordy , give me strength....I'd love to see that on a layout! Quote
RedRich Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) "Brassmaster point rodding, pulleys and all other matter of detailing bits and bobs. " Oh Lordy , give me strength....I'd love to see that on a layout! How many people do you think would notice it Des. When I lived in London I used to travel through Clapham Junction daily and I really got interested in all things per way. I love seeing all the wires rodding and associated bits leaving the base of the cabin and along the track to the crossings and signals. Your signals are that good Des that I feel adding all the other machinery will really set them off. Take a look at all this (taken at Clonmel with permission) just for one crossover. This is the equipment leaving the cabin taken on the same day. I believe that if you choose to model a real location in it's current state, and you are hand building the track then you owe it to yourself to try and complete as much of the detail as you can. To be honest Des I am more freaked out about having to do the wiring and scenic work than the actual building of track, signals, buildings etc. I kind of hope that the layout will always be a work in progress and although it might look complete it would be nice to always add or change little bits and pieces as time moves on. All I need now Des is for you to produce a nice footbridge (hint hint) and most of the raw materials will be ready for when the build will commence. Rich, Edited May 14, 2012 by RedRich Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Getting some stock in for the new 071's to drag around the attic Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Very nice Dave, 071s and Mark IIIs was the ultimate combination for train travel in this country for me. The Cork coaches that replaced the Mark IIIs are shocking in comparison. Hard seats, awful ride, small windows. We didn't know how good we had it! Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Hard seats, awful ride, small windows Sayin nothing in case I'm banned Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Hard seats, awful ride, small windows Sayin nothing in case I'm banned Filthy mind. And you a grandfather. Quote
RedRich Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 They look smashing Dave. There is some footage of the Super Train MK111's on one of the Markle DVD's (I think it's the South East of Ireland volume 4) of them in Waterford in the 80's. Thoroughly good job on the paint work. Rich, Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Thoroughly good job on the paint work. Rich, That was me Quote
RedRich Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 That was me I should have guessed mate. Well done , the shade of orange looks perfect. I take it they are Hornby MK111's Anto. I will be purchasing a few Hornby MK111's to be converted to a push pull set using Jim Smith Wright hopper windows, Shawplan extreme etching MK111 window surrounds and laser glaze windows. I might as well start assembling the rolling stock while I am waiting for a permenant home for the layout to be built. To be honest I am doing too much talking about what I am hoping to do and not enough actual work so that will have to change. Rich, Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Rich you should send the wife and kids away for 2 weeks this summer and you stay at home and make a start Quote
201bhoy Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 I should have guessed mate. Well done , the shade of orange looks perfect. I take it they are Hornby MK111's Anto. I will be purchasing a few Hornby MK111's to be converted to a push pull set using Jim Smith Wright hopper windows, Shawplan extreme etching MK111 window surrounds and laser glaze windows. I might as well start assembling the rolling stock while I am waiting for a permenant home for the layout to be built. To be honest I am doing too much talking about what I am hoping to do and not enough actual work so that will have to change. Rich, I'm the same Rich. Too much work to do and not enough time to do it. I'm pretty close to getting started with mine thank-god Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 Popped in to Marks on Hawkins Street this evening to pick up the new BR Bachmann Class85 electric and took some pics of the preproduction 071 and autoballasters. Quote
connollystn Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 Thanks Warbonnet! Only for you I wouldn't have known that it's on display. I'll be rushing over there tomorrow (Thursday 17th inst.). Quote
connollystn Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 OMG! Had a look at the pre-production model of the 071 in Marks Models. You may have not thought it possible but, it's far superior to anything that Murphy Models has done before. You have to go and see it for yourself. Quote
201bhoy Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 OMG! Had a look at the pre-production model of the 071 in Marks Models. You may have not thought it possible but, it's far superior to anything that Murphy Models has done before. You have to go and see it for yourself. No. Nothing can be better than the 201s. Can it? Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 No. Nothing can be better than the 201s. Can it? It can, things can only get better. To be honest I'd say the 141s are still the yardstick, but that's just my opinion. 201s arent a bad lump mind you. I think the 071 will be top dog going on what I've seen so far. Quote
201bhoy Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 It can, things can only get better. To be honest I'd say the 141s are still the yardstick, but that's just my opinion. 201s arent a bad lump mind you. I think the 071 will be top dog going on what I've seen so far. Well ,it might be just that the 201s are my favourite loco so I might be biased or it might just be comparing them to the lima ones.. Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Nothing wrong with a bit of bias! the Lima 201 is a good point though, I remember people couldn't believe they were available after years of Lima 33 and hornby hymek repaints. They were top dog and people paid huge money for them. Then the 141s came along a few years later and were from a different planet. Quote
201bhoy Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I remember begging my mum for an enterprise Lima when I was 6! I didn't have a clue about model railways, I just loved it! I got one two years later, amazingly the model shop Belfast still hadn't ran out! Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 It can, things can only get better. To be honest I'd say the 141s are still the yardstick, but that's just my opinion. 201s arent a bad lump mind you. I think the 071 will be top dog going on what I've seen so far. I have to agree with you Fran the 141/181 sets the bench mark Quote
RedRich Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I have to agree with you Fran the 141/181 sets the bench mark I'm with you guys on this. The baby's definitely set the bar, as did the Cravens. The 201 is a cracking model but it fell short of the bar for myself anyway by not having flush glazed windscreens and I think that it would have been nice to have had see through bodyside grilles in the same manner as the grille on the electrical end of the roof. The 071 looks like it could raise the bar again and that's what we want to see as punters and modellers. Rich. Quote
Weshty Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 How many people do you think would notice it Des. When I lived in London I used to travel through Clapham Junction daily and I really got interested in all things per way. I love seeing all the wires rodding and associated bits leaving the base of the cabin and along the track to the crossings and signals. Your signals are that good Des that I feel adding all the other machinery will really set them off. Take a look at all this (taken at Clonmel with permission) just for one crossover.[ATTACH=CONFIG]643[/ATTACH] This is the equipment leaving the cabin taken on the same day. [ATTACH=CONFIG]644[/ATTACH] I believe that if you choose to model a real location in it's current state, and you are hand building the track then you owe it to yourself to try and complete as much of the detail as you can. To be honest Des I am more freaked out about having to do the wiring and scenic work than the actual building of track, signals, buildings etc. I kind of hope that the layout will always be a work in progress and although it might look complete it would be nice to always add or change little bits and pieces as time moves on. All I need now Des is for you to produce a nice footbridge (hint hint) and most of the raw materials will be ready for when the build will commence. Rich, A footbridge could be a while yet. Have you checked out Alan Gibson's Midland Footbridge (4mm91). Retails at about £55, I've been meaning to get one to see how it compares to what we have in Ennis. BTW, Dave, those Mk3s are the business! Quote
enniscorthyman Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 I was chatting to Anthony a while back and I just Discovered that the 071 class are taller than the 141/181 class.Now that is one thing that caught me out as I thought they were both the same in height. I persume the height difference is in the buffer area and the cabs are the same.I had always wondered why the red Panal between the buffers was more Raised on a 071 class. Quote
201bhoy Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Never realised that either I always thought they were the same height! Quote
RedRich Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 I was chatting to Anthony a while back and I justDiscovered that the 071 class are taller than the 141/181 class.Now that is one thing that caught me out as I thought they were both the same in height. I persume the height difference is in the buffer area and the cabs are the same.I had always wondered why the red Panal between the buffers was more Raised on a 071 class. Eamonn the 071 sits higher on the chassis than the 141-181, the buffers are the same height but everything else is a few inches higher up. Here is a pic of 088 and 160 cab to cab. Rich, Quote
RedRich Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 A footbridge could be a while yet. Have you checked out Alan Gibson's Midland Footbridge (4mm91). Retails at about £55, I've been meaning to get one to see how it compares to what we have in Ennis. BTW, Dave, those Mk3s are the business! I had a good look at the Alan Gibson bridge Des and there are a lot of differences. The Lochgorm Kits Scottish Highland Railway footbridge is a lot closer except the lattice work doesn't look right for our type of footbridges. Rich, Quote
Weshty Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 I had a good look at the Alan Gibson bridge Des and there are a lot of differences. The Lochgorm Kits Scottish Highland Railway footbridge is a lot closer except the lattice work doesn't look right for our type of footbridges. Rich, Looks like it's a model to put into the pipework then! Not for the next 6-12 months though... Quote
heirflick Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Eamonn the 071 sits higher on the chassis than the 141-181, the buffers are the same height but everything else is a few inches higher up. Here is a pic of 088 and 160 cab to cab.[ATTACH=CONFIG]766[/ATTACH] Rich, fair play to you rich and eamonn...never knew that! Quote
RedRich Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 Looks like it's a model to put into the pipework then! Not for the next 6-12 months though... If it's going to be from the SSM stable Des it will be worth the wait. Rich, Quote
RedRich Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 fair play to you rich and eamonn...never knew that! It's not something you would really know until you see them buffer to buffer Seamus. I often wonder was it designed to be able to make the pipe work and conduit more accessible when in the works. Rich, Quote
The Train Man Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Murphy Models Class 071, probably the most eagerly awaited model locomotives to hit the Irish Market now available to pre-order on http://www.themodelshop.ie We also offer a "savings club" facility for this exciting Launch-contact: info@themodelshop.ie or phone 057 8621081 for more details. The first 3 locos will be available in October 2012 and will consist of : No 071 (Class Leader) in CIE Supertrain Livery No 082 in IE Freight Livery (Black & Silver) No 112 in NIR Livery Quote
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