Noel Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Are the BGH (Belmond grand hibernian) mk3 train sets only hauled by loco (i.e. requiring run arounds), or capable of push/pull? Just curious as I hadn't noticed if the end coach was a pseudo DVT or just an observation coach.
Warbonnet Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Hi Noel. It is hauled only. the end coach is an observation coach, not a DVT. Thanks, Fran 1
DiveController Posted October 6, 2018 Posted October 6, 2018 On 10/1/2018 at 8:19 AM, Warbonnet said: Hi Noel. It is hauled only. the end coach is an observation coach, not a DVT. Thanks, Fran Scenic observations in one direction and gricing after the locomotive has run around? 1
Mayner Posted October 6, 2018 Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, DiveController said: Scenic observations in one direction and gricing after the locomotive has run around? More a comfortable lounge with informal sealing similar to the observation cars on the Festiniog and Welsh Highland Railways but far less to observe in the way of scenery than on the Welsh Narrow gauge lines. I saw the Belmond train a couple of time while in Ireland, my impression was that the observation car was more to provide a common space for guest to socialise and break the cabin fever of their roumettes or state rooms rather than a true observation car, there is very little to "Observe" in the way of scenery on the Belmond train's regular routes The MK3 coach structure is not really suitable for a true observation car like FR 2100 or a Vista Dome. https://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Carriage_2100#/media/File:2100.jpg
Noel Posted October 6, 2018 Author Posted October 6, 2018 The uncontrolled growth of scrub trees and hedge rows along lines since the end of the steam era (ie fire risk) obscures the view of surrounding countryside along much of today’s lines, be it out the window or from an observation car. It’s not exactly the rockies here, too much boring bog. Sleeping in a rail stateroom on some remote semi-industrial siding at night doesn’t appeal to me. By contrast the Emerald Isle Express where folks dine and sleep in a different 5 star hotel every night seems more appealing. 1
jhb171achill Posted October 6, 2018 Posted October 6, 2018 That’s actually true...... the main draw for the Emerald people is indeed the accommodation. (I’ve been on them all).
Noel Posted October 6, 2018 Author Posted October 6, 2018 59 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: That’s actually true...... the main draw for the Emerald people is indeed the accommodation. (I’ve been on them all). Yes I liked the quote from one of their marketing chaps "Their passengers sleep on the train, while our passengers sleep in castles". 1
jhb171achill Posted October 6, 2018 Posted October 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Noel said: Yes I liked the quote from one of their marketing chaps "Their passengers sleep on the train, while our passengers sleep in castles". That came from yours truly!!! 1 2
Noel Posted October 6, 2018 Author Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, jhb171achill said: That came from yours truly!!! Brilliant.
ttc0169 Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Nobody complained about these two views or the sound while tackling the climb up Knockmoylan bank out of Waterford.... 5
JasonB Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Lovely shots Noel. I'd gladly sit there with a pint of the black stuff looking out at that. 5
ttc0169 Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, jason brady said: Lovely shots Noel. I'd gladly sit there with a pint of the black stuff looking out at that. No pints of the black stuff available Jason-only the finest of the most expensive top shelf malt whiskey delivered to your seat...….
JasonB Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, ttc0169 said: No pints of the black stuff available Jason-only the finest of the most expensive top shelf malt whiskey delivered to your seat...…. Even better Noel 1
Mayner Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 On 10/6/2018 at 11:34 PM, Noel said: The uncontrolled growth of scrub trees and hedge rows along lines since the end of the steam era (ie fire risk) obscures the view of surrounding countryside along much of today’s lines, be it out the window or from an observation car. It’s not exactly the rockies here, too much boring bog. Sleeping in a rail stateroom on some remote semi-industrial siding at night doesn’t appeal to me. By contrast the Emerald Isle Express where folks dine and sleep in a different 5 star hotel every night seems more appealing. Much the same as driving on the motorways in Ireland with hedgerows too high to see the scenery! I think the main draw of the Grand Hibernian like a cruise ship or resort holiday is having your own stateroom and not having to move into a different hotel every night! 1
DiveController Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 5 hours ago, ttc0169 said: Nobody complained about these two views or the sound while tackling the climb up Knockmoylan bank out of Waterford.... NICE! Where was her her own loco?
ttc0169 Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 19 hours ago, DiveController said: NICE! Where was her her own loco? On Sundays shortly after arrival at Connolly station from Dundalk, the Belmond locomotive 216 is swapped as it is scheduled to receive an exam at Inchicore running shed, An 071 locomotive is allocated to work the train forward from Connolly to Waterford and back to Bagnalstown and then the following morning return the Grand Hibernian to Heuston, After 216 has received its exam on Sunday or Monday it is coupled to the Grand Hibernian Mk3s to work the train again from the Tuesday afternoon departure from Heuston to Cork. 1
Branchline121 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) The coaches have been exported to GB, courtesy of Belmond. Here's a picture of them in their new life: Edited July 6 by Branchline121 3
MOGUL Posted July 6 Posted July 6 1 hour ago, Branchline121 said: The coaches have been exported to GB, courtesy of Belmond. Here's a picture of them in their new life: Wrong pic? 1
Mol_PMB Posted July 6 Posted July 6 1 minute ago, MOGUL said: Wrong pic? Agreed, that’s not the former Irish coaches. 2
DJ Dangerous Posted July 6 Posted July 6 3 hours ago, Branchline121 said: The coaches have been exported to GB, courtesy of Belmond. Here's a picture of them in their new life: They look more like Mk2D/E/F coaches.
Branchline121 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 2 hours ago, MOGUL said: Wrong pic? Correct, it was an error on my part. It should be fixed now.
skinner75 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Looks like it had technical difficulties & they had to cancel the first planned run
ttc0169 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 1 hour ago, skinner75 said: Looks like it had technical difficulties & they had to cancel the first planned run Had the same issues when it operated here too….
Mol_PMB Posted July 9 Posted July 9 Spotted over on RMweb thanks to Big Jim: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/70783-jim’s-“out-and-about-with-gbrf”-thread/?do=findComment&comment=5882926
ttc0169 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 26 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: Spotted over on RMweb thanks to Big Jim: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/70783-jim’s-“out-and-about-with-gbrf”-thread/?do=findComment&comment=5882926 That was a former grand Hibernian sleeper coach back when it operated here in Ireland. 1
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