Fake Railwayana

[gph2000]

Bill Posters should be getting royalties!

[jhb171achill]

17 minutes ago, gph2000 said:

Bill Posters should be getting royalties!

I think that Mr. William Posters has got enough out of us all by now............

[minister_for_hardship]

On 24/8/2023 at 4:04 PM, airfixfan said:

1916 of course as nothing happened that year!

The real life one was dated 1916, but an enamel, not cast from old Chinese bed irons in a backyard furnace.

On 24/8/2023 at 1:45 PM, WRENNEIRE said:

 

Maybe if the (1) was (I) I might have been convinced

 

The 'apple for scale' is worth more than the junk sign.

[DERAILED]

Another 'new' one for me and this thread has been mentioned in the argument on Adverts. https://www.adverts.ie/other-antiques-collectables/vintage-old-railway-cast-iron-small-trespass-sign/31527122

 

[DERAILED]

If you're getting tired of all the signs here's some vintage farm machinery coming up for sale on Sunday next.

 

 

 

[Gabhal Luimnigh]

Grab it 

[jhb171achill]

On 21/9/2023 at 10:04 PM, DERAILED said:

If you're getting tired of all the signs here's some vintage farm machinery coming up for sale on Sunday next.

 

 

 

And there was me offering €25,000 for it because a man told me it was a genuine ancient Egyptian Ming dynasty Victorian Snail-Splicer, almost 4,000 years old.

[DERAILED]

Somebody must have tipped them off as the description was updated and they managed to get €38 for the 'signal arms '.

[Westcorkrailway]

Something very dodgy going on with Cork and Bandon signs 

 

The guy who “purchased” the last one now has one up for sale 

[Flying Snail]

20 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

Something very dodgy going on with Cork and Bandon signs 

 

The guy who “purchased” the last one now has one up for sale 

 

Most likely the same sign with a clean up and a lick of paint on the letters. The oil-like stains under the O and T in 'Notice' seem to be present (but much fainter) in the picture of the sign from Sept 20 too. I suppose he may be trying to turn a quick profit???

[minister_for_hardship]

17 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said:

Something very dodgy going on with Cork and Bandon signs 

 

The guy who “purchased” the last one now has one up for sale 

Multiple profiles?

It looks like something that got a quick roasting with a blowtorch and a spell in the garden.

[Georgeconna]

Have two of these cast iron Signal Spectacle holders with arms, you would not want them posted, they weight a fair bit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited October 2, 2023 by Georgeconna

[Westcorkrailway]

1 hour ago, Georgeconna said:

Have two of these with arms in the shed you would not want them posted, they weight a fair bit.

It’s possible there real though? 

[jhb171achill]

10 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said:

It’s possible there real though? 

Nope!

[Broithe]

There was a 

G S W R

Anybody Leaving

This Gate Open Is

Lialbe To A Fine

Of Forty Shillings.

 sign at the boot sale in Stafford on Sunday.

 

I wondered if the misspelling of 'liable' would make it a lot more valuable, perhaps..?

[Killian Keane]

49 minutes ago, Broithe said:

There was a 

G S W R

Anybody Leaving

This Gate Open Is

Lialbe To A Fine

Of Forty Shillings.

 sign at the boot sale in Stafford on Sunday.

 

I wondered if the misspelling of 'liable' would make it a lot more valuable, perhaps..?

You forgot the two holes drilled in these positions;

[jhb171achill]

Got to be one of the worst duds yet!

 

[Georgeconna]

On 29/9/2023 at 10:34 AM, Westcorkrailway said:

It’s possible there real though?  They sure are got them from a railway man in Mallow for some photography I did.

 

[minister_for_hardship]

15 hours ago, Killian Keane said:

You forgot the two holes drilled in these positions;

The spelling gaffe is proof the maker's first language is not English. The real railway back in the day would never allow signage intended for the public carry an error like that!

The actual text ran

"GS&WR

Notice

Any person leaving this gate open is liable to a penalty of forty shillings."

The holes are often staggered like that on the real notices, depends on what sort of gate they intended to affix it to.

Edited October 17, 2023 by minister_for_hardship

[Broithe]

A lot of the foreigners that I know are less liable to make spelling mistakes in English that the native monoglots are.

Or to use 'liable' when they mean 'libel'.

Etc.

[Galteemore]

I still recall the grammatical advice that our university lecturer handed out in the 80s - he was the son of a Polish army officer and had been educated in a secret Warsaw school during the Nazi years. Spoke and wrote English with precision! And it’s native speakers who use ‘draw’ when they mean ‘drawer’ and ‘brought’ when they mean ‘bought’. And as for ‘should of’ instead of ‘should have’…….

Edited October 17, 2023 by Galteemore

[DERAILED]

Here's a crude effort that I came across on Done Deal today. Only €30 and the seller was not making any claims for its authenticity. Vaguely similar to one that used to be adjacent to the road overbridge at Claremorris station. It's a long time since I last saw that sign and I think that it has disappeared in the intervening years but I doubt it had as many spelling mistakes. 

[jhb171achill]

On 10/9/2019 at 3:26 PM, DERAILED said:

Here's another one coming up for sale in a general auction. What company is it supposed to be from?

 

 

Ah - that famous Egypt, Bunclody & Singapore Railway, who had those unique 0.7.0s…..

[gph2000]

I must look out for a Great Eastern mockup. I fancy s sign where GER issues a stiff notice!

[DERAILED]

Here's two more recent ones - one from the auction house that seems to specialise in the stuff and and another real try-on from Adverts.ie

€40 plus fees for the knock-off T&D commemorative plaque (the original of which was stolen some years ago) is staggering - who on earth would pay that for a worthless piece of crap?

The 'anvil' - well you've got to admire the barefaced cheek of the seller.

 

[Maitland]

One of my neighbours has the Leaving Gate Open warning in MGWR flavour. It looks a bit out of place in upland Derbyshire. But my favourite spoof sign was one I saw near a mooring on the Coventry Canal, which read, "Any person failing to close this gate will be fined five pounds". Since I didn't stop to open and shut it, I'm still trembling in anticipation of the demand arriving. And on a footpath just half a mile from here, there's a sign saying "THIS GATE MUST BE KEPT CLOSED AT ALL TIMES". Which makes me wonder why they bothered putting a gate there.

[jhb171achill]

On 17/10/2023 at 12:52 PM, Galteemore said:

I still recall the grammatical advice that our university lecturer handed out in the 80s - he was the son of a Polish army officer and had been educated in a secret Warsaw school during the Nazi years. Spoke and wrote English with precision! And it’s native speakers who use ‘draw’ when they mean ‘drawer’ and ‘brought’ when they mean ‘bought’. And as for ‘should have’ instead of ‘should have’…….

At school I had a teacher for who the word “tremendous” was inevitably “tremen-Jus”!

Plus, the endlessly irritating “irregardless” instead of “regardless”, and something “comprising of” whatever it is, instead of “comprising”!

[Mayner]

6 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

At school I had a teacher for who the word “tremendous” was inevitably “tremen-Jus”!

Plus, the endlessly irritating “irregardless” instead of “regardless”, and something “comprising of” whatever it is, instead of “comprising”!

The "English' language has been evolving and has continued to spread around the World since the first Germanic raiders/traders/invaders arrived in Britain all those years ago, I dont't think the people who helped spread the language around the World through trade and invasion would have been the least worried about the finer points of grammer.

The majority of English speaking countries have developed their own regional variations of the language be it Hiberno-Irish, Scots, Ulster Scots, Canadian, US, Australian and New Zealand versions of the language which are just about intelligible to each other.

One of my favourite writers is Andrew Marlon an Australian cartoonist who publishes his distinct take on all thats going wrong in the World in his First Dog on the Moon Guardian column, some of whoes characters frequently the adjective 'irregardless" most likely to poke fun at those that become agitated by the use of the word.

 https://www.theguardian.com/profile/first-dog-on-the-moon . Interestingly while "irregardless" is recognised as a word (Oxford, Cambridge, McMillian, MacQuarrie and Miriam Webster dictionaries the American dictionaries consisers irregardless as a British English word and not a standard American English Word. MacQuarrie (Australian) defines irregardless as a word that not generally accepted as 'Standard English".

I spent a lot of time during my first year in New Zealand tut-tutting and correcting local words and phrases into what I thought was 'correct English before copping on to myself and speaking the same lanugage as everyone else. Like any living thing a language has to continually evolve or die!

 

Edited September 29 by Mayner

[Westcorkrailway]

[jhb171achill]

6 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

Another “genuine” - made in China, 2021?!!!

[Georgeconna]

Hi Lads,

What about this one, Real or Fake?  I suspect the latter.

 

[jhb171achill]

11 minutes ago, Georgeconna said:

Hi Lads,

What about this one, Real or Fake?  I suspect the latter.

 

I’d need to see the sign closer up, but it could be genuine. But it’s not a gate sign, it’s an end-of-platform trespass sign. Someone has attached it to that gate latterly.

[WRENNEIRE]

Looks kosher to me
The square holes for fixing are what need to be seen, some fake ones have round holes

[Georgeconna]

8 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Looks kosher to me
The square holes for fixing are what need to be seen, some fake ones have round holes

Deadly, out in the open too! 

[DERAILED]

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Surely these are genuine - they are so rusty!