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Like this era and before

Same era as Edo 1950-1980 south. I''ll commit to at least 6

That will fit in my preferred era very nicely That would certainly add to the appeal of these van, different ends and doors types. I might need a few more of them if those are options!! Doors open, would be fantastic nears the goods shed/yard with a fork lift which is how they were loaded with pallets as I recall

What would have been the motive power on those? MGWR cattle engine? Did they ever need an udder loco, i.e. double headed cattle?

The older livery with the broad white stripe is the better of the two liveries IMO

No one else doing this era Leslie so I'll take a short rakes as usual. When did they Palvans first come into traffic?

The class 52 has fairly long lives maybe not to the end of southern steam but certainly into the late 50s. Not sure if I missed the announcement but I'd take a Class 52 also. The L class had pleasing distinctive look with that flyaway cab.

@RailerA copy of Carse's book is essential reading so to speak. Copy the ISBN and occasionally stick it into google. Amazon can occasionally be a good source but I have sometimes found Book Depository or more likely Abebooks to be a better source. You can create a 'Want' if they don't have what you're after. I misplaced my copy of Locomotives of the GSR (acquired on eBay at a very reasonable cost, well, I thought so anyway) and it had been driving me demented. Best offerings were at $965 or some such price on Amazon. Placed a 'Want' on Abebooks and was lucky to get an email within a week for an excellent copy for $40 including tax (no idea why I had to pay that but very acceptable under the circumstances). Winging its way from the UK. Botts booksellers has a lot of old transport material but they like to charge a bit over the odds in some circumstances but nothing like that referred to above.

Slow and steady it has to be without a banking engine

The lack of suitable track remains an impediment to building any thing in 21mm. I think modelers would be inclined to do loco and stock conversions (and even that can be a little tedious), but building your own track is mostly for smaller layouts for all except a few modelers I expect

I also have no personal experience of these locomotives but Hirsch & Doyle's 1979 book quotes that tractive efforts of the A class as only 46,000 lb/f with the EMD 12-645 when downrated to 1325hp from 1650hp to improve reliability of the associated auxiliary components. This suggest they pulled well regardless of the installed engine (when operative). The C class of course were vey underpowered with the original engine but actually would have been very decent locos when re-engined and upgraded to Class B (800-1100 hp) locomotives

I'm not sure if I misunderstood you, Leslie. You're saying the Metrovick A class were poor pullers with a tractive effort of 55,000 lb/f? I believe that was with the original Crossley HSTV8 (reliability aside) but open to correction if that that was subsequently with the EMD re-engine.

Conclusion may be flawed: surely to stop the hand from slipping and spilling any adjacent pints of Guinness! (I can just imagine some of the replies now...... , like this poor guy whose hand has slipped)

Wouldn't be so bad if the CBSCR 'model' railway was still outside your window, but alas!

Turns out you don't have to been one of the larger companies to have used a double slip. I just spotted one in the middle of the CBSCR's terminus Albert Quay in a photo in Rails around Cork, sitting right in the middle of the three roads leading to the terminus! Amazing what you can see what you didn't before....

Very impressive

Some very interesting older stock, Bandon tanks locos, green AEC railcars on the CBSCR, a double slip (not as uncommon as one would have believed), I think it was at Albert Quay about 8:41, old motor vehicles, trucks and a GN closed wagon on the CBSCR! Nostalgic little collection of video and photographs Thanks for posting that.

Some nice, clever and wacky modules on there! Excellent stuff

Received. Many thanks!

Ah yes, the 1415 'Special'

And despite criticism of the lining (whether completely accurate or close enough to do in an otherwise very decent loco) it made STG420 which is 100 pounds over the original retail price !! Build them and the punters will come

Link deleted for clarity as it's not the correct Railcar Colin's looking for unless it's this which looks like a bus but actually they sort of all do on the CDRJC https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/6180277095/in/photolist-aqbeh5-aq8x4D-2fLCaGz-aqbbt9-aq8vtR-aq8ubH-aqbdi1-aq8vBZ-aq8vQB-aq8vSV-aq8uvx-aq8vmt-aq8x6a-aqbd8q-23Mzmxm-aq8uUx-aqbbJ1-aq8vJX-aq8wKk-aq8wg8

I suspect Richie & Jim are correct. The obvious issue is that the extra resistance created as each additional coach enters the curve especially with longer coaches versus 4w wagons. If extra weight fails to resolve for the 5 coaches you could flatten/eliminate the gradient within the curve, increase the gradient to more than 1:60 on the straight if you need the achieve a minimum rise over the total distance, increase the radius of the curve starting it earlier if necessary, consider a Cork tunnel style banking engine! as shorter rolling stock probably not an option in this scenario. I don't know if there is a rule of thumb for how much to add except that if you add enough balanced weight you should have greater traction. Adding more than necessary will add some strain to the gearing especially f the loco is running longer circuits. Let us know how much weight you had to add when you can. TIA

And to think this thread started off with 4X4s

Can someone enlighten me about the two channels in the containers for the tines of the forklift? As you can see from the photos above, they exist on some containers , not on others and a bit of both on the model. Were the containers modified at some point in time or were there batches of each from the outset? The ability to unload the flat wagon without an overhead crane was obviously necessary at some (more remote?) locations? TIA