heirflick Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 lads, have seen this baby at different times in the depot in portlaoise but was never colse enough to get a shot. can anyone tell me what its function is, and might someone have a pic/clip of her in action? Quote
0 Broithe Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Anything to do with the electrification for the DART..? Quote
0 dave182 Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 A guess here, is that the wagon that goes with the sleeper train (as in the 90's). It had an Italian name, carried 2 small cranes that ran along rails fixed to the side of the wagons? My thinking being the in the pictures you have 2 hydrolic turntables, the cranes were carried sideways during transportation, the the hydrolic rams would lift them up slightly, spin them 90 degrees, and lower them on to the rails along the wagon (painted red in the picture) Just a guess, might be completely off! Quote
0 dave182 Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Been looking for a picture on the Internet but can't find it! Here is a more modern version http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/fcgi-bin/nlathumb.fcgi?id=1000582&mode= Quote
0 MOGUL Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Might you be refering to The Donelli gantries Dave? Quote
0 Broithe Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Might you be refering to The Donelli gantries Dave? Looks like it - referred to here - http://irishrailcargricersassociation.yuku.com/topic/606#.UPMTYR1Wx8E . Quote
0 Garfield Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Don't know what that is, but it's definitely not a Donelli track-laying crane... Quote
0 BosKonay Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 No '774' Per way vehicle on the lists either.... Quote
0 Garfield Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 I think this is a case for The Wanderer... Quote
0 Glenderg Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 I have a photo of 770, but it's a track laying doo-hicky. I think the bauld Broithe may be on the money though http://www.flickr.com/photos/holycorner/6772507911/in/set-72157628999720825/lightbox/ 143 pictured at greystones "Confined to PWD Work - DART line" (Bent frame from a shunting accident I think) and behind it appears to be Heirflicks two wagons, although in red. http://www.flickr.com/photos/holycorner/6772496283/in/set-72157628999720825/lightbox/ Quote
0 Broithe Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 I have a photo of 770, but it's a track laying doo-hicky. I think the bauld Broithe may be on the money though Nothing to do with me - just the result of a Googling. No idea if it's right or wrong, myself. Railcargricer1 says -There are additional Donelli Gantries 770, 772 and 774 772 is generally confined to loading in Portlaoise while the other gantries travel the country as required. Quote
0 dave182 Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 I beg to differ Garfield... Here is a quote from the link Broithe posted... (It refers to the Donelli gantries) [I]Some additions to that list lads. 737 is withdrawn awaiting disposal at Portlaoise Depot. There is a new Tamper/Dynamic Track stabiliser numbered 710 delivered to I.E in 2007 currently being tested on the Coolnamona branch south of Portlaoise There are additional Donelli Gantries 770, 772 and 774 772 is generally confined to loading in Portlaoise while the other gantries travel the country as required. 728 is also a converted to a Sandite machine 780 a ballast cleaner formerly jointly owned by NIR is stored in Mullingar Per Way Yard[/i] I've also looked a bit closer at the pics from Greystones, and these wagons are definitely not in the formation [ATTACH]5253[/ATTACH Been trawling the internet for picture of the Donellis but I can't find any. I'm sure someone on here will have a picture in their private collection. I'm fairly certain this is the wagon (minus the cranes)! greystones.bmp Quote
0 ttc0169 Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 dave182 is correct,the wagon is specially adapted for carrying the Donelli relaying gantries, The gantries were located on either end of the wagon and on arrival at the relaying location were swivelled around and lowered on to the service rails alongside the track to be relayed, They would first lift up the old jointed track sections and transfer them to empty flat wagons towards the front of the train,then hook up to new concrete sleepers and transfer them back to the worksite-a neat and fast operation, On a good day the "Nellies" could relay up to a mile of new track. Quote
0 gm171 kk Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Excellent video of one in action. Another video of one on the wagon. Edited January 13, 2013 by gm171 kk Quote
0 Garfield Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Ah, I stand corrected. I only ever seen photos of the wagons with the gantries in situ... never really paid attention to the wagons themselves. Edited January 13, 2013 by Garfield Quote
0 dave182 Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 GM171, great find there! I also stand corrected, I thought those cranes ran on rails along the sides of the wagons, as opposed to temporary rails on the ground. Are they still in use? Quote
0 201bhoy Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 A guess here, is that the wagon that goes with the sleeper train Never knew Ireland had night trains Quote
0 gm171 kk Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 @ dave182, yep I'm pretty sure they are. Last time I saw one was last March though in Clonmel. @201bhoy, as well as night works, the timber liner runs during the night. It usually only passes on the line closest to where I'm living in Kilkenny at the Lavistown loop at about 11 every Thursday and Friday night on its way to Waterford with a laden train of timber. Quote
0 201bhoy Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 @ dave182, yep I'm pretty sure they are. Last time I saw one was last March though in Clonmel.@201bhoy, as well as night works, the timber liner runs during the night. It usually only passes on the line closest to where I'm living in Kilkenny at the Lavistown loop at about 11 every Thursday and Friday night on its way to Waterford with a laden train of timber. Lol, I meant an overnight train, (sleeper train!) What a good journey that would be... Derry to Rosslare or Cork in converted mk3s Quote
0 Broithe Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Lol, I meant an overnight train, (sleeper train!) I've seen the one here trundle through Stafford a few times, when I used to go to Holyhead on the train.. Quote
0 heirflick Posted January 14, 2013 Author Posted January 14, 2013 ok lads, this is getting very worrying! still no clue as to what the wagons are for, broithe may be on to a winner , but if she is for the dart lines, i cant fathom what the grab things are for- not for track, cand seems to big for cable... theres a pint of guinness for the right answer! Quote
0 Broithe Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 broithe may be on to a winner , but if she is for the dart lines, i cant fathom what the grab things are for That was just my first, semi-educated, guess - before I Googled a bit... Quote
0 ttc0169 Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) ok lads, this is getting very worrying! still no clue as to what the wagons are for, broithe may be on to a winner , but if she is for the dart lines, i cant fathom what the grab things are for- not for track, cand seems to big for cable...[ATTACH=CONFIG]5263[/ATTACH] theres a pint of guinness for the right answer! Lads, The train in question with 143 in the siding at Greystones was called the ADtranz electrification train and was used during the construction of the extension of the DART from Bray to Greystones during 1998, There was a mini digger on the flat wagon which had various drill bits and buckets and a generator housed in one of the containers for night and tunnel work, The two axle open wagons had steel tubes loaded on them, Due to the difficult conditions around Bray head,this train was used first to pile drive the steel tubes into the ground,then install the concrete base and masts for the overhead wires and lastly put up the catenery with the wiring train following, The train would also have installed the new colour light signals which were commissioned when the DART extension was opened. Edited January 15, 2013 by ttc0169 Quote
0 heirflick Posted January 16, 2013 Author Posted January 16, 2013 mystery solved so, many thanks noel=D. theres a pint of plain with your name on it down here! Quote
0 wexfordloco10 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Hi All I have been going through my old Irish photos and have found the following which may be of interest No 774 and 776 were pictured in Arklow and the pics given to me by T Nolan I think 157 and 770 were on track relaying work opposite the Talbot Hotel Quay Wexford date I am sorry I do not have but it was a very Wet Sunday David 1 Quote
0 heirflick Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 absolutely brilliant pics david - thanks for taking the time to post them! Quote
0 wexfordloco10 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Hi All Just located a couple of photos of track relaying at Wexford hope they are of use David 1 Quote
0 enniscorthyman Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Brill photos David,thanks for posting. Quote
0 Shinkansen Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Excellent photos Wexfordloco. You don't see much photographs of 'Rail infrastructural work' being carried out in Ireland. Intriguing looking petrol driven implement there in the last photo... whatever it is! Top stuff Quote
0 Broithe Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Intriguing looking petrol driven implement there in the last photo... whatever it is! Intriguing, indeed. Is 'it' actually two almost identical implements, one behind the other? Spot-on pics, though! Quote
0 heirflick Posted January 27, 2013 Author Posted January 27, 2013 great pics david..thanks! love to see p/way equipment in action! Quote
0 Broithe Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 [ATTACH=CONFIG]5583[/ATTACH] I think they might be screwdrivers - for attaching the clips to the sleepers/chairs..? Quote
0 Mayner Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 I think they might be screwdrivers - for attaching the clips to the sleepers/chairs..? Glorified impact wrench for bolting up fishplates Quote
0 Broithe Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Glorified impact wrench for bolting up fishplates Ah, right - obvious when you say that - I can see the right-angle drive at the bottom, now that I know it's there... Quote
0 waffles Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 The photos are amazing i remember the day well i had been on a training spin with the wexford wheelers. the gang were working hard for the sat and sunday and were very fast one of the P Way guys was a chap called Bill Whittey who was married to a family friend and sadly is no longer with us Quote
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lads, have seen this baby at different times in the depot in portlaoise but was never colse enough to get a shot. can anyone tell me what its function is, and might someone have a pic/clip of her in action?
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