D301 Class

[ger711]

Lads,

 

Anyone got any photos of the D Class Shunters other than what few are available online. Just wondering if both side profiles are identical as I might try a Lima Class 08 conversion in the future.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Ger.

[Galteemore]

Excellent work. Always good to see someone having a go at making something ! 

[jhb171achill]

A British Rail 08 is close enough. Quick slap of black paint and away ye go!

[heirflick]

ger, got a hornby 08 and the beauty with this model is that the storage boxes at the sides could be removed to closely resemble the D class. this one is sound fitted and runs very well.

[BosKonay]

That's just gorgeous heirflick

 

Any advice for souls thinking an 08 and a lick of black paint will do a nice job?

[Dave]

Lovely job, must do that to my class 08, where did you get the transfers?

[heirflick]

steven, she is far from perfect, the cab doors (which can be left open on this model) are to far from the cad face, but it will do me nicely! hattons are selling 08's for 49 quid at the moment......go on - get one....you know you want too!!!!

[heirflick]

dave, transfers came from westy.

[BosKonay]

She looks great!

 

Will definitely chance me arm at it

[BabyGM]

IC 82 has just done a review of it

 

[Warbonnet]

The Hornby 08 is the best one out there (super detail job mind you, not the ancient old trainset one missing the outside frames!) but the Bachmann one is nearly as good. Bachmann also do the outside door strapping variation of the 08 which I believe the CIE D's had as well?

[heirflick]

good review-'an iron deadness sort of grunt'.....now thats the best description of a motor sound i ever heard! lovely model though

[BosKonay]

I have an older railroad 08, which isnt great, but have a couple of hornby 08's and a bachmann, will dig out the boxes as soon as I get a chance.

 

Would be a nice little runner in front of a short rake of freight, or shunting a few cravens

[heirflick]

now your talking!

[BosKonay]

Modern image be damned :)

[ger711]

Thanks for the replies lads, just what have I started now though? Dozens of D Class on the Workbench!

 

Ger.

[BosKonay]

Yep

 

Dug out me old hornby one. She even has lights. Now to get some black spray paint :)

[Dave]

what have I started now though? Dozens of D Class on the Workbench!

 

Ger.

 

I have dug out my Hornby I'll be getting the black spray out tomorrow!

[Flying Scotsman 4472]

I have dug out my Hornby I'll be getting the black spray out tomorrow!

 

 

And don't forget the white as well

[Sentinel281]

Lads,

 

Anyone got any photos of the D Class Shunters other than what few are available online. Just wondering if both side profiles are identical as I might try a Lima Class 08 conversion in the future.

 

Do you have any books on cie/ir? There are even colour pictures in some of them. By this, I got to know they had at least two liveries, green and black. Due to copyright reasons it is alas not possible to post the pictures here. One is in the "colour picture books" of Tom Ferris, another one in the Irish traction Diesels booklet. I myself did not find any picture from the left hand side, presuming the coolers are on the front and the cab on the backside. I would also be interested in such a picture. Until now I hesitated about converting a 08 class because of the cases at the sides; now, thanks heirflick, I know they are removable, thats really great! About that bargain: I could not find one for 49 whatevers, be it pound stg or Euro(n)s. Did you already buy them all?

[heirflick]

sentinel.....https://railsofsheffield.com/bachmann-32-101-class-08-d3729-br-green-diesel-shunter-32-117-JJJA6002.aspx away you go now and get one! shes not hornby but im nearly sure the side boxes can be removed. for the price id chance it anyway!

Edited February 15, 2013 by heirflick

[BosKonay]

Some detail drawings here

 

http://irishrailmodels.com/2012/01/25/d301-class-locomotive-drawings/

[ger711]

These are the links to the only pictures I could find online

 

http://irnirishrailwaynews.yuku.com/topic/1643/d303-inchicore-may-1969

http://website.lineone.net/~sjohnson40/Loco%20Profiles/DClass.html

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?17,2049600

On the third link if you scroll down there is a small pic, but you have to join the website to view it properly.

 

Ger.

[Weshty]

hattons are selling 08's for 49 quid at the moment[ATTACH=CONFIG]5895[/ATTACH]

Well, thats me hooked!

[Garfield]

I was hoping to post a link to a photo of a D in Black and Tan livery that I saw some time ago, but it appears it is no longer online (could've been on Fotopic). Should've saved a copy!

[jhb171achill]

I've seen one too - they didn't stay that way loong, and in fact I wouldn't be certain all of them had the tan, instead just being black / white.

[Garfield]

I've seen one too - they didn't stay that way loong, and in fact I wouldn't be certain all of them had the tan, instead just being black / white.

 

True, JB... there are photos of black Ds being scrapped at Inchicore.

[Auto-Train Original]

Being from the lazy - close enough - end of the kitbashing faction, I have started messing around with the old Triang/Hornby Class 08 shell. I got the boxes all in a row by cutting the central section out and flipping it around. I am also having a hard time finding a photo or drawing of the D301 roof. So I am flying blind in this regard. Anyway, here is what stage one looks like.

Edited 20 hours ago by Auto-Train Original

[Metrovik]

I'm assuming the similarities to the class 08 are more than coincidental? Seems too similar not to be. Anyone know how the engines stack up against each other?Nice work on the lima shunter too!

[Auto-Train Original]

35 minutes ago, Metrovik said:

I'm assuming the similarities to the class 08 are more than coincidental? Seems too similar not to be. Anyone know how the engines stack up against each other?Nice work on the lima shunter too!

I have often wordered too. They are so similar did LMS share the plans? 

[Mol_PMB]

The CiE locos had a different and significantly more powerful engine compared to the LMS and BR locos.
The LMS fleet also contained several different variants, some with jackshaft drive for example. 
I don’t think the D class shared the exact dimensions of any of the LMS types. 
Undoubtedly the concept was similar though. 

[Galteemore]

6 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

The CiE locos had a different and significantly more powerful engine compared to the LMS and BR locos.
The LMS fleet also contained several different variants, some with jackshaft drive for example. 
I don’t think the D class shared the exact dimensions of any of the LMS types. 
Undoubtedly the concept was similar though. 

I think it was a bit of a generic style among early diesel shunters. Maunsell’s 0-6-0 diesels for the Southern look very similar 

[GSR 800]

1 minute ago, Galteemore said:

I think it was a bit of a generic style among early diesel shunters. Maunsell’s 0-6-0 diesels for the Southern look very similar 

I wonder if Southern influence had anything to do with it. Bulleid was only a few years from joining, and Maunsell and Holcroft had worked closely with Inchicore in improving the 400s, and it's thought the 800s were likewise influenced by Maunsell, who visited Inchicore several times after retiring (in 1937).

 

 

[Mol_PMB]

When I get home and have some spare time, I’ll compare the specs. 
How many traction motors did the D class have? Most of the GB equivalents had two, one driving each end axle. 

[Auto-Train Original]

Part 2 of Fake it till I Fake It. 

[Mayner]

5 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

When I get home and have some spare time, I’ll compare the specs. 
How many traction motors did the D class have? Most of the GB equivalents had two, one driving each end axle. 

The main difference between the D Class and the contemporary LMS, GWR & SR diesel shunters seems to be that the Irish locos used a Mirrless engine and Brush electrical equipment (2 traction motors) unlike the British locos that mainly used English Electric engines and electrical equipment.

Versions of the "standard" 2 motor LMS/BR diesel shunter were built by outside contractors with different engine-electrical equipment combinations but not apparrently a Mirrless-Brush combo.