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MOGUL Experienced

MOGUL

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55 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

You’ve just opened the floodgates to Hell!

Not really, that was a one off that slipped out of the warehouse and I know why it happened.
We are working on the VAT situation in the background and will only be shipping orders once we are happy that people won’t be getting VAT requests. Should be all in place in the next few days and then the floodgates from the warehouse will really open

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leslie10646 Grand Master

leslie10646

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I promised a completely Bulleid train.

First the fake one with the re-gauged "Leader".

Lovely wagons, by the way, guys. Run very freely - I found that my supposedly level layout had a slight gradient! Congratulations!

 

Or with a loco which Oliver Bulleid ordered for use in Ireland. I don't have a steel-sided CIE brake, sorry. This one's a kit masterfully built by young Nelson.

 

 

 

 

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PaulM1974 Apprentice

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17 hours ago, fergalm1 said:

I just got a VAT invoice from DPD this morning requesting payment before they'll release my wagons (on which I've already paid VAT). Someone has screwed up.

 

Same here, I’ll give support a shout….

PaulM1974 Apprentice

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On 20/2/2025 at 2:55 PM, Jims said:

How much were dpd asking for

€170.64!! Payment due within 5 days of receiving the mail so that's Monday.... Update - quick email to Accurascale / IRM and all sorted within minutes!

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Patrick Davey Grand Master

Patrick Davey

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My two packs of H vans have arrived - unfortunately I won't get to enjoy them until the weekend due to a work trip.

Just been browsing the IRM wagon section on the Accurascale website - looks like every single wagon across all the products has sold out?  Including all the Bulleid opens?

Also - I understand about streamlining etc but does anyone else miss the dedicated IRM website...... 😜

Great work IRM, yet again!

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Mayner Grand Master

Mayner

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44 minutes ago, StevieB said:

The ebay price is some 60% greater than the IRM price, say no more.

Stephen  

Say no more: there is no one forcing anyone to pay an inflated price. 

Just wait for the wagons to show up on the second hand market, swapmeets or deceased estate sales.

As an old work mate used to say there was no barbed wire on the door forcing a guy to spend all his wages in the pub.

 

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Mol_PMB Mentor

Mol_PMB

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I'm very pleased to say that both my packs have arrived safely this morning and I can show a Bulleid train on my photo plank. 

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Thank you, IRM!

I now have 4 packs of IRM Bulleid wagons awaiting regauging, modification and weathering - I can foresee a production line and might get started this weekend while I wait for the E class chassis etch.

The fitted brake gear is exquisite but is going to be harder to regauge than the hand-braked version - a nice challenge.

I might even do a green one with extended buffers?

https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/17713-the-green-h-vans/

 

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DJ Dangerous Grand Master

DJ Dangerous

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21 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Any chance you can price the IRM stock in Euro?
All seems to be priced in Stg

Currency box hidden away way down the bottom. Should be top right corner or top left corner, ideally, but at least it’s there.

 

 

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Mol_PMB Mentor

Mol_PMB

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As usual, the first thing to do with any new toy is to take it apart...

Here are some learning points for the rest of you wanting to take these apart (oh, only me? OK...)

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I thought that to separate the body and the chassis I would need to undo the screws and then they would fall apart (like the corrugated wagons). This is not the case with the vans.

There are several bits of the brake gear that are stuck to the metal floor unit rather than the skeletal underframe, so that undoing the screws does not free the frame from the floor. They are the vacuum cylinder, the brake gear crank near the middle, the brake safety loops and the vee hangers.

These can be removed with a bit of care (fine screwdrivers, cocktail sticks, fine pliers etc), though I bent some of the brake safety loops in the process. Some of these seem to be fitted one end into the floor and the other end into the frame.

Having separated the floor I then found that the body was a simple clip fit onto the floor, and perhaps I need not have separated the floor and the frame after all. Although the brake safety loops have to come off anyway to release the brake shoe assemblies and the wheels for re-gauging.

The clips at the bottom of the body are under the roundel and the 'vac brake' wording.

Anyway, having got the body off I discovered that the sides and roof are moulded in one piece. I'd been hoping they were separate bits to simplify modification and repainting, but never mind.

Hopefully this is helpful to someone even if as an example of what not to do.

 

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Colin R Mentor

Colin R

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On 17/2/2025 at 7:30 AM, Mayner said:

More a larger box than needed for the other much smaller species of grasshopper, apart from the minor technicality of exporting a legally protected species, ensuring it survived the trip and made it through bio-security on arrival. Or maybe I am just talking through my hat as I get older🤣

My 15 year old is currently agonising about bringing one of our cats "James" home from the States (16 hrs flights-6 months quarantine) when the other half returns later this year, chances of someone adapting James are slim, not sure he would remember us after the flights and quarantine, or integrate him with our other cats, but difficult to leave a good mouser behind. 

Going more and more off topic by the moment, though should have some IRM/Accuracraft Grain Wagons on the way in the not too distant future.

give him  a few weeks to work out what is what and he will be ok in his new home, just keep him in if you can for a week or so, so that he gets his scent all over the place so his knows where home is

Sorry running a bit late with this one but now that I've got my Vans, I was wondering did they do a cattle wagon in the same series?

Colin

 

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Mayner Grand Master

Mayner

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10 hours ago, Colin R said:

give him  a few weeks to work out what is what and he will be ok in his new home, just keep him in if you can for a week or so, so that he gets his scent all over the place so his knows where home is

Sorry running a bit late with this one but now that I've got my Vans, I was wondering did they do a cattle wagon in the same series?

Colin

 

It looks like a friend in the States has agreed to adopt James, big challenge if he survived the flight and quarantine would have been James challenging our other four male cats for the Alpha position.

CIE Cattle wagons all appear to have been on the traditional Irish timber underframe like Leslie's model, none that I know of on the Triangulated Underframe

 

Mol_PMB Mentor

Mol_PMB

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The H vans have an interesting finish on the roof, which I assume is intended to represent a worn canvas covering. The pattern and colour looks plausible on a grey van.

I'm not sure how much variation there is among the different models, here are my 3 grey ones and you can see that two are the same and one is different but has some of the same design elements:

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All three of my brown vans have the same roof as the two on the right in the image above (again, in the same two shades of grey).

I don't have any grey snail liveried vans but the catalogue images show them with a uniform grey on the roof.

 

I can't quite decide whether the 'two shades of grey; treatment is better than a uniform colour all over. Of course, there would also be a debate about what that colour should be!

I just thought I'd pick out some photos of real H vans which show the roof in various conditions. These are mostly from Ernie or IRRS, but there are a couple from Jonathan Allen and Neil Smith too.

 

1963 and a freshly painted overhauled van already showing some variation in grey colours on the roof, possible some influence of shadow from the steam:

GNRI 1963-05-29 Aghadavoyle WT 57 JGDewing 630705

1961, again some variation in the roof of the nearer van which is probably in as-built condition with wear and weathering. Looks generally dark in the middle and paler at the edges. Some of the other vans have a more uniform roof colour.

yj191 CIE 1961-06-06 Nenagh 125 yj191

1961 again, there are some newly-painted H vans here with rather tatty rooves. The dominant roof colour is darker grey:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53468557011

1962, the appearance of the rooves here may be influenced by a shower of rain, again they are patchy and tend to be darker in the middle:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53570662593

Mid-1960s, the roofs aren't very clear here but it does give a good indication of the colour variation between newly-painted and well-weathered vans. They started off all over mid grey, and then the grey on the panels faded whilst the ironwork darkened with corrosion and trapped dirt, giving a 2-coloured appearance. The nearest van, a vac-fitted one, is the dirtiest - that may be a coincidence but it would be more likely to generate brake dust when running.

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The same colour contrast between freshly painted and well-weathered can be seen here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/54257003568

Moving on to the roundel era, this early 1970s image shows both grey and brown vans. The brown one has a patchy roof that looks more grey than brown. The grey van has ribs across the roof - a modification which was increasingly common in later years and would be an easy way for a modeller to provide a bit of variety in their fleet.

MPD 36 at Waterside

This row of five brown H vans shows a range of roof colours, mostly in the dirty grey spectrum but with considerable variation:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53511436244

Now a few images showing brown vans with roof ribs. I assume that a different material was used for the roof covering which required the ribs to hold it down? These seem to be generally dark but variable:

Ireland Wagon Cork

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53511615359

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53511314036

Ireland Wagon Banteer

 

On balance, I think having some variation in the roof colour is prototypical, although most of the photos tend to indicate that they should be darker in the middle and lighter round the edges. If considered as the basis for some further weathering by the modeller then I think it's a positive thing.

Having the same pattern on the roof of lots of vans looks a bit odd, and looking at the catalogue images for the other sets there do seem to be more variants - it may be coincidence that 5 of my 6 are the same.

I wonder if there is a consistent roof pattern for each running number or is there a collecting niche here for different combinations?

What do others think?

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leslie10646 Grand Master

leslie10646

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I'm pretty sure that  John is right. By the time that the triangulated chassis was widely used, cattle traffic was disappearing, so why renew them?

Despite my concern about sales of these  - see above - I've "just" sold 229 of them, to date.

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