josefstadt Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Camden Fort is not on Haulbowline, but about 2 miles south east of Crosshaven which is part of the mainland. To my knowledge there was never a rail line on Haulbowline. The Irish Steel Plant on Haulbowline was served by a 4' 8½" gauge rail line. Motive power was provided by a Galway-built Unilok locomotive and the rolling stock consisted of ex-US railroad flat cars and gondolas. I remember one of the gondolas still bearing the colour scheme and name of the Lehigh Railroad. The naval base on Haulbowline island was served by a narrow gauge railway (not sure of gauge but it was quite narrow) network that was reasonably extensive. I think the IRRS had an item about it in one of its Journals some time back. I'll see if I can dig it out. Quote
josefstadt Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 well they have listed it in their 2014 network statement. Disused platforms don't seem to be listed except for grand canal dock which is down as not yet available. Ok, I’ll accept that IÉ has the loop platform listed, but it can’t be used as a platform as there is no bridge to it. That is why one of the Limerick-Ballybrophy services in the last timetable ran through Roscrea without stopping as the main platform was occupied by a train going towards Limerick. Talking of the 2014 IÉ Network Statement. I see that the photo on the front cover is of a train of cement bubbles heading towards North Wall. Not the most up to date photo! Quote
Riversuir226 Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Haulbowline had a line from 1865 till the 195Os. It was 3ft 6in guage it was originally built for the construction of the dry dock but continued to be used for various duties. At its peak it had 3 miles of track & had 2 locos plus a steam crane and quite a few open wagons. Quote
scahalane Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 As they say, every day is a learning day! I was aware of the one at Fort Camden but didn't realize there was one on Haulbowline, thanks for clarifying must investigate further! Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Not sure if it was a preserved line, it served a purpose as a car park shuttle. Rode on it once, it prob never rang again after that! Hence the inverted commas. Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Please say it's the Silver Princess Coach, might redeem my miserable score in this thread..... Richie. Think that was built by Budd, might be on to something. The W&LR had the first bogie coaches in these islands, described as 'American style', don't know if they were American built though. Doubt it. Quote
heirflick Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Maeve, Macha and Tailte were the largest locos that cie had, standing at 40 feet 11and 3/4 inches in length- anyone know what was the smallest? Quote
snapper Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 just broad gauge or are you including narrow gauge? in broad gauge, number 495, class M3 0-4-0 standard tank? Quote
heirflick Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 broad gauge 495 and class m3...no! Quote
heirflick Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 I'd say 'Pat'. Pat it is! a powerful little machine that worked the coal gantry in glanmire rd in cork - pints all round! pats length was 13 feet 4 inches Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Name two railway station buildings (i.e. booking offices/stationhouses) that didn't start life as railway stations? Quote
Eiretrains Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 Name two railway station buildings (i.e. booking offices/stationhouses) that didn't start life as railway stations? This thread is great! I think I might have read this one recently, we're on the W&LR again, is one of them Cahir? Originally a lodge of some sort if I recall. Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Spot on, Cahir was a hunting lodge in a former life. Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Donaghadee? Could have been...but the one I have in mind you would have passed through...quite often... Quote
jhb171achill Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Donaghadee was a house prior to being a station. I suspect Downpatrick was not an original railway building either; for that matter, nor was Soller on the Palma-Soller electric line in Majorca, if anyone's ever been on it...... Quote
Glenderg Posted September 17, 2013 Author Posted September 17, 2013 Why do I get the feeling it was on the bray/greystones Dart line, something like Dun Laoighre? Don't know why, just a vibe....? Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Donaghadee was a house prior to being a station. I suspect Downpatrick was not an original railway building either; for that matter, nor was Soller on the Palma-Soller electric line in Majorca, if anyone's ever been on it...... The current D&CDR station was a gasworks manager's house. Quote
jhb171achill Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I'm thinking more of the original Downpatrick station. Quote
jhb171achill Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I think the present Dun Laoghaire station was built by the DWWR... Maybe somewhere beyond that? Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 As an aside, the ironwork for Cork loco shed I have heard, was originally supposed to go to somewhere on the North British Railway. Trying to get confirmation for this. Quote
jhb171achill Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 What loco-hauled 2ft gauge lines operated in Ireland, other than those owned by BnM? Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I won't do well at this without my 'bibles'! The Marconi railway? And maybe those ones on Achill Island that whatshisname wrote about??? Quote
108 Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Was there a 2 ft line at Ardnacrusha as well as the more widely known 3ft lines? Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Was there a 2 ft line at Ardnacrusha as well as the more widely known 3ft lines? Think all the Shannon Scheme ones were temporary 600mm or 800mm or sumat, and a more permanent 5'3'' branch. Quote
Mayner Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) Rooskey Harbour Railway short lived line in the 1990s locos and stock went to the Arigna Mining Experience. Dromad short 2' demonstration line for ex ESB Ardnacrusha Hudson Hunslets, drove a loco on it once, not sure if that could be described as passenger carrying:) Edited September 18, 2013 by Mayner Quote
BSGSV Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Given the number of industrial/private entries in "Irish Industrial and Contractors' Locomotives" (Union Publications, 1962, with amendments in a following IRRS Journal) there have been about 30 lines of 2-foot gauge in the 32 counties, and that's not counting Bord na Mona's contribution. Quote
Glenderg Posted September 18, 2013 Author Posted September 18, 2013 As an aside, the ironwork for Cork loco shed I have heard, was originally supposed to go to somewhere on the North British Railway.Trying to get confirmation for this. Was this Carlisle by any chance? Quote
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