tonybonneyba Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Yes, theres quite a few around. Have a look in the workbench section Can you post a link? I can't find any, apart from the photo Kirean posted earlier Quote
Riversuir226 Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/4755-Tonto-s-Wreckbench page 1 Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 http://www.thejournal.ie/belfast-to-dublin-train-2544830-Jan2016/ Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Happy Days http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-35301331 Quote
Noel Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Happy Days http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-35301331 That was a fast response. But boy those enterprise DVTs make ugly ducklings look pretty - a real 1970s look about it shape wise. Some NIR stock is not famed for its aesthetic beauty. The IE Mk4 DVTs are like graceful swans by comparison. (pic from BBC web site) Quote
Railer Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 The Enterprise DVT cabs were spec'ed to resemble the front profile of a 201 as close as possible so that's what they got. Quote
Noel Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 The Enterprise DVT cabs were spec'ed to resemble the front profile of a 201 as close as possible so that's what they got. This doesn't seem close To this profile The front of the DVT looks like a cardboard box a child brought home as a prop from a school play Quote
Glenderg Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Shur how could it? 201's don't have a tumblehome.... Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Wow. To classify something as less attractive than a Mk 4 DVT makes it really ugly! ;-) Quote
airfixfan Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 The raspberry ripple livery is not attractive either! Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Let's face it - the DD and Mk 4 sets themselves are no oil paintings..... you could paint them any colour..... Quote
Garfield Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 On the contrary, I like the new livery and think the De Dietrichs are a fine-looking coach. The Mk4s are a different matter, though... Quote
Railer Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I think the DD stock looks well in all it's liveries so far. I still the first was the best with the purple and red thumb prints on the doors. The Mk4 livery is not rocking my boat at all, just too much going on with it. Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 We're all a broad church, aren't we! I bet there are EVEN people here who don't like GSWR 0.6.0s..... Quote
Glenderg Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I like both liveries and coaches. Is it the European styling that upsets? Quote
GSR 800 Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 We're all a broad church, aren't we! I bet there are EVEN people here who don't like GSWR 0.6.0s..... Ah no, come on John that's..that's Impossible...I mean.. Ah no.. Anyway, I like the RR livery, I think it's a nice change, and I don't mind the DVT either.. Quote
Noel Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I like both liveries and coaches. Is it the European styling that upsets? I like both also. My only gripe is the shape of the face end of the DD DVT looks like it was made by a child out of cardboard, ugly is insufficient to describe the duplo-brick look, but otherwise the DDs and Mk4s are fine looking coaches. I like the new enterprise livery but the forward end looks a little plain and could do with some small colour element added to the overall grey. IMHO its the front end that should look the most striking and eye catching from a marketing perspective as it enters a station passing folk looking on. The 22000s aren't bad lookers either despite my total lack of interest in model ICRs and DMUs, but as a passenger they look well on the outside. Quote
ttc0169 Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Another loco out shopped in the new Enterprise livery is 227-seen here working the up lWT liner passing Islandbridge Jctn. Quote
Noel Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Another loco out shopped in the new Enterprise livery is 227-seen here working the up lWT liner passing Islandbridge Jctn. [ATTACH]22197[/ATTACH] It looks so much better running in the direction. The curves look like the wind blowing the mane of a wild beast, or a cheetah, conveying power and speed. I know it doesn't match up that way around with the DD coaches, but does it not look more impressive running in that direction? Quote
RedRich Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Wasn't the DVT to match the body and curve of the coaches while the cab was to match the cab front of a 201 class. The front windows, grab handles, position of lights, cutouts below the marker lights all capture the front of a 201 to me. The cabside windows even match a 201. It is a fine looking train and the new livery is growing on me. Rich, Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 If it had a chimney it would match 186 and 461. Sorry....! Quote
Railer Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 227 needs a trip to York Road before it can work a new Enterprise set from the looks of things, it hasn't got it's new connection fitted to the no2 cab. 228 was the same when I saw it in Connolly today on the turntable road. Quote
heustonconnolly Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 I love the whole design of the De Dietrich's, and ya the cab is designed to reflect the cab of a 201 I think the new livery is stunning! It is a very unique livery on the irish network and will catch passengers eyes, which was intended, the interior also has improved greatly imo, even though the last DD interior was very comfortable, The whole refurbishment project was a great success too, apart from the door failures, but I think (hope)NIR have sorted that out now Will IE respray 231 into the new livery, is it still an enterprise loco? And also will the enterprise locomotives be getting the new Enterprise logo or not? Quote
Railer Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Some were saying that 227 would not be part of the Enterprise fleet anymore but it emerged from Inchicore in December all painted up. 233 is due aswell. 231 was a late addition to the Enterprise fleet in 2010, there is some doubt will it still be an Enterprise loco. I reckon it will after the economic loss of 230. It's more than just a respray the locos are getting, they are getting a full overhaul with new systems for the DD stock and more comfortable cabs for the drivers, new seats etc. It is odd that none of the locos in the new livery have any branding logos on them at all yet. 209 has escaped Inchicore twice without getting it's EVN applied. Edited January 17, 2016 by Railer Quote
heustonconnolly Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Some were saying that 227 would not be part of the Enterprise fleet anymore but it emerged from Inchicore in December all painted up. 233 is due aswell. 231 was a late addition to the Enterprise fleet in 2010, there is some doubt will it still be an Enterprise loco. I reckon it will after the economic loss of 230. It's more than just a respray the locos are getting, they are getting a full overhaul with new systems for the DD stock and more comfortable cabs for the drivers, new seats etc. It is odd that none of the locos in the new livery have any branding logos on them at all yet. 209 has escaped Inchicore twice without getting it's EVN applied. I know they get body overhauls abd new systems but I just said respray because I was in a hurry:) I thought the locos were resprayed and had body overhauls at inchicore but had to go the York Road to be modified with system to haul the De Dietrich's, Or is all of this done in inchicore? Quote
Railer Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 I think just the work of fitting the new MMI screens and the new external jumper connection on the no2 cab is done at York Road like you say. Quote
heustonconnolly Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 I think That some people were saying that 227 228 and 231 would be overhauled and still be enterprise locos but kept in intercity livery with new logos, this didn't happen either This might happen to 231 but I doubt it, but its a possibility Quote
Railer Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 This might happen to 231 but I doubt it, but its a possibility If 231 is overhauled it will be repainted as part of it involves replacing body work panels as the 201s are starting to suffer from corrosion around the cab side windows and the no2 cooling end fan grills at the roof level. 232 already has two replacement panels there, they are easy to see as they are not painted. All the IC livery 201s are getting panels replaced as needed, and IE have put the job of fabricating new panels out to tender. Quote
heustonconnolly Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 Sorry I meant to clarify,. I meant that it could be overhauled and repainted in the intercity livery with the new tri colour logo, I probably won't happen tho Quote
GSR 800 Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) How many 201s are used on the enterprise and how many are used with the Mk4s? Edited January 18, 2016 by GSR 800 Quote
rebelred Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) 215, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224, 226, 229, 232, & 234 are all in Mark IV livery 206, 207, 208, 209, 227, 228 & 233 are all in Enterprise liveries 231 is currently in Mark IV colours but due to be converted to the new livery down the line. Enterprise Locos can be used on Mark IV's but all the 'Intercity' Locos bar 231 can't be used up north as they don't have AWS or the radio equipment used by Translink Edited January 18, 2016 by rebelred Quote
heustonconnolly Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 One question I have been on the refubished enterprise set 9002 3 times now and every time I arrived in Connolly /Belfast the PA said "thanks for travelling with northern Ireland railways. No mention of IE atal Was this because the train was hosted by a nir crew or otherwise? It is a joint service Quote
heustonconnolly Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 is 9001 the next set back ,anyone know when ,and then whats the story with 9003 and 9004 ? before summer? Quote
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