Kirley Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and to put up any list of data suggestion it is totally accurate would be foolish knowing the considerable number of experts on this Site. So here is a Timeline I have drawn up for my own information and would welcome any corrections or additions to it. 1945- CIE formed 1946- Announcement that the railway would be converted to diesel traction 1946- D Class 301 5 entered service 1947- Dublin to Belfast Enterprise introduced 1948- Contract with Metropolitan Vickers for 6 twin engined diesel-electric locomotives cancelled but Sulzer had already delivered the engines 1949- 4 Walker diesel Railcars ordered for West Clare (narrow gauge) 1949- Dublin to Cork Enterprise introduced 1949- 60 AEC Railcars ordered 1950- AEC Railcars took over the Enterprise Service 1950-1 B Class 113 2 Sulzers entered service 1953- GNR acquired jointly by Dublin & Belfast Governments GNRB 1954- K Class 801 transferred to CIE 1955- F Class 501 5 Walker locomotives (Narrow Gauge) entered service 1955-7 A Class 001 60 MV's entered service 1956- 3 Dentz G Class diesel locomotives bought 1956- Introduction of 12 mixed traffic BRCW locomotives B101 Class using the Sulzer engines first delivered in 1948 1956-7 G Class 601 5 Deutz entered service 1957-8 E Class 401 19 entered service 1957-8 C Class 201 34 MV's entered service 1958- GNRB stock split to CIE & UTA 1960-2 Introduction of 14 Maybach E Class shunters 1961- Introduction of 15 GM locomotives B121 Class 1961- Passenger Rolling Stock livery changed from Green to Orange/Black 1962- Introduction of 36 GM diesels 141 Class 1962- G Class 611 7 Deutz entered service 1963- All Steam Traction withdrawn 1964- Flying Snail emblem replaced within 'Broken Wheel' logo. 1966- 12 GM diesels arrive 181 Class 1968-72 MV A & C Class re-engined with GM Motors 1972-3 72 AC Coaches from BR Engineering introduced in the new 'Supertrain' services 1973- AEC Stock had engines removed and used in Pull-Push configurations 1977- 18 new GM locomotives, 071 Class enter service 1984- First of the new Mark 3 coaches went into service, 'Intercity' branded. 1984- DART begins operating 1987- Logo change from CIE to 'IR' (Irish Rail) 1987- Last 24 Mark 3's adapted for Suburban work modified for Pull-Push using 121 Class 1987- 3 80 Class Railcar Sets leased from NIR for 3 years 1990- 15 BR Mark2a coaches brought from Vic Berry, Leicester, refitted in Inchicore entered service 1994- 32 201 Class GM locomotives arrive to replace the 001 Class. 1994- 16 new Railcars arrive from Tokyn -'Arrows' 2600 Class 1994- Logo change from IR to IE (Iarnrod Eireann) 1994- Two 201's went to NIR for the joint Enterprise Service 1997- New De Deitrich coaches introduced to the Enterprise Service 1998-9 26 Spanish built 2700 Class arrived 'Sparrows' 1998-9 10 new DART Units entered service 2001- 2800 Class enters service 2003-4 2900 Class enters service 2007- 22000 Class enters service 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Very timely, Kieran. I often wonder about a lot of these. THis would be a great general sticky when fully updated (if required) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricanemk1c Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Should add: 2011/2012 - Second batch of 22000 Class enter service 2013 - New "Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail" logo introduced 2014 - Enterprise refurbishment announced, with 8209 receiving partial livery 2014 - Class 22000 have formal approval for cross-border work, starting by covering an Enterprise set for refurb 2014/2015 - Belmond start moving their Mark 3's to Scotland. Last Mark 3 movement in orange/black 2015 - Top and Tail working now permitted with HOBS wagons 2015 - Single Line Working and Ballast Cleaning, finally using 781 to its full potential 2015 - 206 repainted in full Enterprise livery and MMI screens fitted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 G601 class and narrow gauge F class - three each, rather than five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Need to add in the delivery dates of the 8500, 8510 and 8520 class DARTs from 2000, 2001 and 2003 respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 G601 class and narrow gauge F class - three each, rather than five. Many thanks JHB, G601-603 & F Class 501 -503. Thanks also to those others who have made comments. I'll wait for a week and re do the list making the amendments/additions. Please keep your comments coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 It might be added that while CIE was formed in 1945 by amalgamation of the GSR, DUTC and the Grand Canal Company, it was initially a private company and was actually nationalised as a state body in 1950. The GNR diesel No. 800 (as opposed to 801), was, I think, lent to CIE for trials but would have remained in GNR ownership (and navy livery) until the dissolution of the GNR in 1958. Very interesting post, by the way - well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) Maybe add in the waves of closures in the 1960s and major incidents? eg Buttevant. Here's a useful page: http://www.irrs.ie/Common%20Files/CIE.htm Edited June 2, 2015 by minister_for_hardship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Many thanks JHB, G601-603 & F Class 501 -503. Thanks also to those others who have made comments. I'll wait for a week and re do the list making the amendments/additions. Please keep your comments coming. If you want to add in the additions Kieran to your top list I can make it a sticky then and it would be an excellent resource for everyone if you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 1960/61 Closure of Tramore, West Clare and the former cbsc lines. 1967 - Closure off the Waterford to Mallow line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 The Croom branch (Charleville - Patrickswell) also closed in 1967; by which stage it just carried the night-time Cork - Limerick goods, having lost its passenger service in 1934. The Thurles-Clonmel line also succumbed then. In 1975, the last ever cattle trains ran, Loughrea to Cabra. On 3rd November that year, the Loughrea line was closed, and with it the last mixed trains in Ireland. On the same date the Burma Road and the Ardee branch closed. In 1967 - I'm nearly sure that's the date - the last GNR (brown) liveried coach in service - was repainted black'n'tan. It had survived the GNR navy-and-cream period and also CIE green. The "flying snail" was replaced by the "roundel" in 1963. Early examples of buses in red / cream or navy / cream still, had snails for a very, very short time. No snails ever appeared on blank and tan railway stock, nor roundels on green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 If you want to add in the additions Kieran to your top list I can make it a sticky then and it would be an excellent resource for everyone if you like? Fran I'll wait the week and then combine all the additional comments into the initial list first please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Fran I'll wait the week and then combine all the additional comments into the initial list first please. No problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 It's important to include when things finished e.g. withdrawal/conversion of coaches like the 60' 0" and 61' 6", and the end of particular traffic like CIE container trains. That way it becomes easier to model a particular period in time if that is your fancy. Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 It's important to include when things finished e.g. withdrawal/conversion of coaches like the 60' 0" and 61' 6", and the end of particular traffic like CIE container trains. That way it becomes easier to model a particular period in time if that is your fancy. Stephen I know I've still up to update my original list and will get round to it shortly. I agree with you Stephen and ideally it would be great to have a list that everyone can add bits of information to. Can this be facilitated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richrua Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 very very useful list. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I know I've still up to update my original list and will get round to it shortly. I agree with you Stephen and ideally it would be great to have a list that everyone can add bits of information to.Can this be facilitated? Likely it could. It would be a great resource as long as members take care to ensure the accuracy of additions or amendments to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 CIE – IE Timeline updated Updated timeline with the contributions from members added. Many thanks for the additional information. 1945- CIE formed by amalgamation of the GSR, DUTC and the Grand Canal Company, it was initially a private company. 1946- Announcement that the railway would be converted to diesel traction 1946- D Class 301 5 entered service 1947- Dublin to Belfast Enterprise introduced 1948- Contract with Metropolitan Vickers for 6 twin engined diesel-electric locomotives cancelled but Sulzer had already delivered the engines 1949- 4 Walker diesel Railcars ordered for West Clare (narrow gauge) 1949- Dublin to Cork Enterprise introduced 1949- 60 AEC Railcars ordered 1950- CIE was nationalised as a State Body. 1950- AEC Railcars took over the Enterprise Service 1950-1 B Class 113 2 Sulzers entered service 1953- GNR acquired jointly by Dublin & Belfast Governments GNRB 1954- K Class 800 transferred to CIE on loan for trials but would have remained in GNR ownership (and navy livery) 1955- F Class 501-503 Walker locomotives (Narrow Gauge) entered service 1955-6 A Class 001 60 MV's entered service 1956-7 B Class 101 12 Sulzers entered service using the Sulzer engines first delivered in 1948 1956-7 G Class 601-603 Deutz diesel locomotives entered service 1957-8 E Class 401 19 entered service 1957-8 C Class 201 34 MV's entered service 1958- GNRB stock split to CIE & UTA 1958- K Class 800 renumbered 801 under CIE ownership. 1960-61 Closure of Tramore, West Clare and the former CBSC lines. 1960-2 Introduction of 14 Maybach E Class shunters 1961- Introduction of 15 GM locomotives B121 Class 1961- Passenger Rolling Stock livery changed from Green to Orange/Black 1962- Introduction of 36 GM diesels 141 Class 1962- G Class 611 7 Deutz entered service 1963- All Steam Traction withdrawn 1963- The ‘Flying Snail’ was replaced by the 'Broken Wheel' roundel. Early examples of buses in red/cream or navy/cream still, had Snails for a very, very short time. No Snails ever appeared on black/tan railway stock, nor roundels on green. 1966- 12 GM diesels arrive 181 Class 1967- Closure of the Waterford to Mallow line. 1967- Closure of the Croom Branch (Charleville - Patrickswell); by which stage it just carried the night-time Cork - Limerick goods, having lost its passenger service in '34 1967- Closure of the Thurles 1968-72 MV A & C Class re-engined with GM Motors 1972-3 72 AC Coaches from BR Engineering introduced in the new 'Supertrain' services 1973- AEC Stock had engines removed and used in Pull-Push configurations 1975- Last ever Cattle Trains ran, Loughrea to Cabra. 1975- On 3rd November that year, the Loughrea line was closed, and with it the last mixed trains in Ireland. 1975- On 3rd November the Burma Road and the Ardee branch closed. 1977- 18 new GM locomotives, 071 Class enter service 1984- First of the new Mark 3 coaches went into service, 'Intercity' branded. 1984- DART begins operating 1987- Logo change from CIE to 'IR' (Irish Rail) 1987- Last 24 Mark 3's adapted for Suburban work modified for Pull-Push using 121 Class 1987- 3 80 Class Railcar Sets leased from NIR for 3 years 1990- 15 BR Mark2a coaches brought from Vic Berry, Leicester, refitted in Inchicore entered service 1994- 32 201 Class GM locomotives arrive to replace the 001 Class. 1994- 16 new Railcars arrive from Tokyn -'Arrows' 2600 Class 1994- Logo change from IR to IE (Iarnrod Eireann) 1994- Two 201's went to NIR for the joint Enterprise Service 1997- New De Deitrich coaches introduced to the Enterprise service 1998-9 26 Spanish built 2700 Class arrived 'Sparrows' 1998-9 10 new DART Units entered service 2000- Delivery of DART Class 8500 2001- 2800 Class enters service 2001- Delivery of DART Class 8510 2003-4 2900 Class enters service 2003- Delivery of DART Class 8520 2007- 22000 Class enters service 2011-12 Second batch of 22000 Class enter service 2013- New "Iarnród Éireann Irish Rail" logo introduced 2014- Enterprise refurbishment announced, with 8209 receiving partial livery 2014- Class 22000 have formal approval for cross-border work, starting by covering an Enterprise Set for refurbishment 2014-15 Belmond (Rail Tour Company) start moving their Mark 3's to Scotland for refurbishment. Last Mark 3 movement in orange/black 2015- Top and Tail working now permitted with HOBS wagons 2015- Single Line Working and Ballast Cleaning, finally using 781 to its full potential 2015 - 206 repainted in full Enterprise livery and MMI screens fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Subscribed to the thread so I could find it again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnthebox Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Great, Kieran, very well done, you must have spent a few late nights listing that lot, forgot ak what a out the Harvourt Street Line ! Edited July 1, 2015 by burnthebox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barl Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Great resource kirley and fair play for doing it. One to add to the list could be the closure of the Sallins to Tullow branch in 1959. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Admin. Is it possible to set up this list so that anyone can add to it, that way it could continue to reflect all the vast knowledge that Site members hold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelred Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 2015 - Maintenance finally fixed the heater in 4005 that I've been reporting since 2011, unfortunately it's now summer so no use & the air con is broken now 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/content.php/368-CIE-to-Iarnrod-Eireann-Timeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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