Mk3 coaches

[Dempsey]

Starting back fresh to the hobby and decided my layout will be Irish based

The mk 3 coaches used by Irish rail, did by have a letter attached to them like was seen with mk2s like mk2a,b,c and so on. If so which were used by Irish rail as I'd like to model as close as possible. 

Also was there a difference between those used on the intercity and say the enterprise?

All information and help is appreciated  

[Railer]

Only the International set were known as Mk3As. The rest were just called Mk3s or the 19 suburban Mk3s with the opening windows and push pull. 

Our Mk3s were basically UK HST Mk3s fitted with buffers and not UK loco hauled Mk3As which were different again. 

[StevieB]

What was the difference in design between the HST and loco hauled mk3’s in the UK.?

Stephen

[Warbonnet]

33 minutes ago, StevieB said:

What was the difference in design between the HST and loco hauled mk3’s in the UK.?

Stephen

There are some roof and wiring differences and the HST trailers do not have buffers. 

[Noel]

These resprays posted on RMI FB site by Daryl looked impressive even without buffers

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156785852622774&set=pcb.2137164726349667&type=3&theater&ifg=1

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156785852827774&set=pcb.2137164726349667&type=3&theater&ifg=1

[Dempsey]

Great thanks. For those mk3 pulled by a class 201 did all include a generator in the set?

[Railer]

Yes, all had EGVs or on push pull sets the DVT had a small genny. 201s only ever provided power to the DD stock until spare Mk3 EGVs had to step in as 201s are not suited to HEP mode on all the time. 

210 was used during static only HEP mode test on a Mk3 set in Inchicore but was decided easier to keep EGVs. 

[Dempsey]

Prefect thanks for the information. I know there will be many more questions as I reintroduce myself to the hobby in time

[108]

And don't forget that all Irish Mk3 coaches had swing plug doors instead of manual ones. 

[Dempsey]

Are the mk3 EGV's ordered by silver fox worth getting?

 

[Noel]

1 hour ago, Dempsey said:

Are the mk3 EGV's ordered by silver fox worth getting?

The ones I've seen in the flesh looked fairly decent. A little weathering might not go amis to soften the bright orange colour and just make them look slightly weathered. Their BR Mk1 GSV is also a decent coach.

[JasonB]

2 hours ago, Dempsey said:

Are the mk3 EGV's ordered by silver fox worth getting?

 

I'd agree with Noel. They're decent models which are also nicely finished, although a little on the pricey side. 

[Irishrailwayman]

On 10/22/2018 at 1:20 PM, StevieB said:

What was the difference in design between the HST and loco hauled mk3’s in the UK.?

Stephen

The Irish MK3 Resturant carriages were different in roof detail and window spacing. The models shown here used Lima donor coaches with MIR brass overlays to give the correct windows.

[Dempsey]

The colour was very bright i thought but if i can be dulled down it may be worth investing in. Just need to think about biting the bullet with that price

[Dempsey]

First attempt at a respray using mk3 hst coach. Just waiting on transfers to arrive. 

I did encounter slight overspray in parts but I'll know in future and will take more care.

[Rob]

That looks spot on-   look forward to the photos when the decals are on it!

 

[Past-Avenue]

They look great Dempsy  ,i also done the same with old hornby mk3 coaches i picked up at shows but they are not the correct scale length but im happy with them as we all have to start somewhere

[Dempsey]

14 hours ago, Rob said:

That looks spot on-   look forward to the photos when the decals are on it!

 

They just arrived in the post. Fingers crossed as I've never done it before

7 hours ago, Past-Avenue said:

They look great Dempsy  ,i also done the same with old hornby mk3 coaches i picked up at shows but they are not the correct scale length but im happy with them as we all have to start somewhere

I've three jouef mk3s that are longer then the Hornby ones. Would they be closer to scale lengthy I wonder

[WRENNEIRE]

I think Past Avenue's coaches are probably early Hornby from the 125 HST set?

Jouef coaches are nearer scale length

[Dempsey]

I think for now the Hornby ones will do as practise in respray. The restaurant couch is nearly ready for reassembling 

[Dempsey]

Extremely please with how this turned out. With a bit more care and patience I think has paid off in a much better result and with a lot less bleed through of the paint

[Noel]

They look very well. Tidy job.

[Dempsey]

19 minutes ago, Noel said:

They look very well. Tidy job.

Cheers mate. There's a few areas on the lead couch to be addressed but overall I'm happy out. Only five more to go haha

[Dempsey]

First two finished with transfers applied

[Noel]

Excellent looking job

[Dempsey]

Respray project No.2 of mk3 couches is in full swing and even tried my hand at weathering both the couches and the class 201 which will be hauling them.

[flange lubricator]

They look great 

[DiveController]

Your rolling stock is in a terrible state and needs a good wash 

[JasonB]

Great paint job on the coaches. Not bad for a first attempt at weathering, especially on a loco. Nice work  

[Dempsey]

Dos any know the colour codes for the original enterprise livery and the 201 hauled intercity livery?