Irishswissernie Posted May 2, 2019 Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 4 being re-railed at Cork April 1969 with a little help from B131 Limerick 4 + 171 April 1969 I have the late Tony Nokes slides etc from the Tour which according to his notes 4 was rescued by B167 as above but somewhere along the line B131 got in on the act. Ernie DOH! Off Topic again. Better get back on Try this Belfast Queens Quay GNRI Motor Trailer 214 4Aug59 img392 Edited May 2, 2019 by Irishswissernie 4 1 Quote
Lambeg man Posted May 2, 2019 Posted May 2, 2019 Brilliant photo of No. 214. I think I am correct in saying that No colour photo of one of the ex-Railmotor Trailers has ever been published. I would stand corrected on that. No. 214 was the last of the classification K 9 to be withdrawn., clearly awaiting auction here. Quote
Irishswissernie Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) On 5/2/2019 at 9:15 AM, leslie10646 said: Next day, we returned via Limerick as already reported and guess what? No.4 lost her pony truck again in the shed yard - trapping No.171 inside. So there we were with no loco for the trip onwards to Dublin and Belfast. The Inspector, the late Paddy Gannon, simply asked our rail tours officer ( the late and estimable Drew Donaldson) - "What do you want to do"? Now Drew once famously threatened to lie down in front of an ailing 400 class on a tour, to ensure that the tour did not continue with a diesel loco, so not surprisingly asked Paddy to muster a team and rerail the offending truck. A bunch of local pw men did it in double quick time using the most modest tools (including a few sleepers!) and we were back in business after an hour. Well done the Limerick men! I was ferreting through my files and came across these 2 taken by the late Ken Groundwater which must be the pony truck derailment at Limerick. I don't think we would get away with these days with the use of a loco (it would have to an 071 class!) as a grandstand. Photos copyright of the Armstrong Railway Photographic Trust. Ernie Edited May 4, 2019 by Irishswissernie 3 Quote
Glover Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 Brilliant photos Ernie! And useful front end detail for modellers. I bought a copy of Railway World which covered this tour, detailing all of the challenges. (Cover photo below). I often wondered what the GNR coach was in the train; any info or photos? Cheers, Glover Quote
Irishswissernie Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 Probably clutching at straws here but this coach on the 'Brian Boru' is numbered 47N. Would this have been an ex GNRI coach with an N added . Coaching stock is not my forte unfortunately. Ernie 1 Quote
leslie10646 Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 Coach 47N was a GNR(I) Class J11, built as a Tri Composite Brake with two compartments - one of six First seats, the second of eight Second seats and finally thirty Third class seats in an open saloon. PLus TWO toilets (one at each end of the passenger section) and a brake compartment. Went to CIE at the dissolution of the GN and this was her last year in service, big withdrawn in 1970. By this time she was a First / Third compo, I suspect, so some lucky guys on the tour had First Class seats. 1 Quote
Glover Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 Many thanks Ernie, and Leslie. Leslie's information is correct, as I would expect. The GNR built three of this type; two went to CIE and the other to the UTA, on the dissolution of the GNR. And, I've built models of two of them! This is my model of 47N, in CIE green. It's painted in black 'n tan on the other side and numbered 105N. I note that, in Ernie's photo, there are sliding vents in the large window, next to the smaller one and door. My only photographic reference was of the UTA coach, in Norman Johnstons "Parting Shot" book. It may be that either CIE or the UTA made a change to the original but I don't think we can stress ourselves too much over that at this stage! Again, many thanks to all who are helping to preserve photographic records and memories of days long gone. Cheers, Glover 2 Quote
Galteemore Posted May 5, 2019 Posted May 5, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 9:15 AM, leslie10646 said: Spot on Lambeg re the Brain Boru visit to Limerick. A memorable tour (for a lot of wrong reasons). The tour was the first since No.171 was overhauled, but unhappily she blew a gland on the way to Dublin (although not without doing 70mph before that happened). So, No.4 (straight off working on the spoil trains) ran solo to Cork, where she contrived to derail her pony truck in the shed yard. 171 worked to Cobh and back, having run Dubin to Cork light engine. Next day, we returned via Limerick as already reported and guess what? No.4 lost her pony truck again in the shed yard - trapping No.171 inside. So there we were with no loco for the trip onwards to Dublin and Belfast. The Inspector, the late Paddy Gannon, simply asked our rail tours officer ( the late and estimable Drew Donaldson) - "What do you want to do"? Now Drew once famously threatened to lie down in front of an ailing 400 class on a tour, to ensure that the tour did not continue with a diesel loco, so not surprisingly asked Paddy to muster a team and rerail the offending truck. A bunch of local pw men did it in double quick time using the most modest tools (including a few sleepers!) and we were back in business after an hour. Well done the Limerick men! No.171 set off on her own, but very weakly, due to that blown gland. At Ballybrophy, while she took water, it was discovered that No.4 was right behind her on the block, so she came forward to pilot. What followed was a piece of folklore - for that meant driving her over a facing crossover from the down line (she had running bunker first because of the dodgy pony truck). The CIE driver declined to have the honour of taking No.4 over the crossover - who could blame him with the Sunday rush hour about to begin and the possibility of blocking both main lines? As it happened, the NIR inspector, Frank Dunlop, was on the train to advise the CIE guys on the handling of the tank. So he volunteered to edge her slowly over the points and in front of No.171. After that, it was relatively plain sailing - I've forgotten how late we were back into Belfast! Wouldn't have missed it! Thanks Leslie - couldn't resist showing my dad the pics in this thread of that episode. As he recalls it took Frank Dunlop’s authorisation to allow 4 to run bunker first. He says you got into Belfast at 3am! Quote
K801 Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 On 4/14/2019 at 11:11 AM, WaYSidE said: How close is the Marks Models version to the real thing? Quote
Broithe Posted April 26, 2020 Author Posted April 26, 2020 At first glance, I thought these were the now-familiar green boxes... Phew.... 2 Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) On 4/17/2020 at 3:37 AM, K801 said: Which Marks Model do you mean - I'm unaware of one that resembles this coach? Edited April 26, 2020 by jhb171achill Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 On 5/4/2019 at 4:49 PM, Irishswissernie said: Probably clutching at straws here but this coach on the 'Brian Boru' is numbered 47N. Would this have been an ex GNRI coach with an N added . Coaching stock is not my forte unfortunately. Ernie Yes, very much so. A GNR coach of 1940s / 50s origin. Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) Something different HZC is a mid 61 reg. Edited April 27, 2020 by WRENNEIRE 3 Quote
Broithe Posted May 19, 2020 Author Posted May 19, 2020 Those modelling the Modern Image may need to consider upgrading the scenic details... Quote
spudfan Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 Nothing to do with trains but some nice photos from January 2013. Despite the gloom it was before 12 noon. 2 Quote
Broithe Posted May 22, 2020 Author Posted May 22, 2020 And - Click ^ for the full-size pictures. Quote
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