Irish Royalty - Park Royal Coach Next For IRM

[Mol_PMB]

I need to get a couple more green ones ordered, still hoping to see some more photos of those. 

[GSR 800]

2 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

I need to get a couple more green ones ordered, still hoping to see some more photos of those. 

Same as myself!

[Mol_PMB]

From what's shown on the AS website for the green ones, with livery based on the artwork and door type based on the text, the options are:

• IRM1212  1379 - green with green ends and silver underframe, original inward-opening doors
• IRM1215  1383 - green with black ends and silver underframe, original inward-opening doors
• IRM1213  1388 - green with green ends and silver underframe, original inward-opening doors
• IRM1214  1402 - green with black ends and silver underframe, modified outward-opening doors

As yet, it's not clear whether these are dark green or light green or some of each. The artwork looks dark green for all, but the sample we've seen upthread (1402) looked light green.

I haven't yet seen a model sample with the original type doors, or with green ends. So I'm eagerly awaiting the promised update so that I can place my additional order for these (to add to the 5 I've already bought and paid for).

 

 

 

[Metrovik]

Just gonna throw out a question in case somebody may know the answer. While at least one of the examples on the Waterford and tramore was converted into a driving trailer for the AEC railcars, would anyone be able to shed some light upon which of the green liveried options would be most similar? (Although I suspect they're all different in reality...)

[jhb171achill]

2 minutes ago, Metrovik said:

Just gonna throw out a question in case somebody may know the answer. While at least one of the examples on the Waterford and tramore was converted into a driving trailer for the AEC railcars, would anyone be able to shed some light upon which of the green liveried options would be most similar? (Although I suspect they're all different in reality...)

The five vehicles which went there were all the lighter green livery. All the ancient older (locomotive-hauled) coaches there previously were the 1945 darker green.

[jhb171achill]

Interesting you mention it. I was considering ordering a 2-car set, but it would have to be the correct livery agreed in advance. The CIE green-era liveries produced by Silverfox continue to be wrong in every single detail, despite them being given the correct info several times.

The green is wrong for either the 1945 or 1955 liveries - it looks more BR green to me. The lining and logos are white - they should be pale green. The roofs, worst of all, are pale grey. They should be black.

If SF are prepared to do this thing in the correct livery, and that’s not a big ask - it’s patently and obviously doable - then I’d order one. If not, I wouldn’t - who here would buy a Silverfox Hunslet if it was green, brown and pink?

[Mol_PMB]

Just now, Metrovik said:

Just gonna throw out a question in case somebody may know the answer. While at least one of the examples on the Waterford and tramore was converted into a driving trailer for the AEC railcars, would anyone be able to shed some light upon which of the green liveried options would be most similar? (Although I suspect they're all different in reality...)

The W&T driving trailer was 1407. IRM are actually offering 1407 in their range, but in much later 1980s condition by which time it had lost its cab. The intermediate on the W+T was 1408.

One of the difficulties in answering this question is that we need a bit more info from IRM to know what each of the green models look like.

We always have to be very careful with shades of green in older photos, but this railcar looks like a dark green. Park Royal hiding behind the wall on the right.

There is a nice colour photo in 'Irish Railways in the 1950s and 1960s' (McCormack) page 125 showing a W+T train in 1957 formed of all 5 'modern' vehicles - 3 AEC railcars and 2 Park Royals. Led by 2659 which also appears to be dark green, though the second AEC looks lighter. The Park Royals have the later outward-opening doors. So the model of 1402 is probably the best bet. 

[Metrovik]

Was not expecting such comprehensive replies within 15 minutes! Many thanks gents.