murphaph Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I think the seller is a business, no? Maybe they just bought a job lot from an estate. Sometimes people also just decide to leave the hobby or change scale/era whatever. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, murphaph said: Sometimes people also just decide to leave the hobby... ...and buy a mansion and a Porsche. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Both grey 071s hovering around the €400 mark with a little under an hour to go... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 ...and they finished at €550 and €525... Plus tax and shipping if you bought from outside the UK. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 expensive cupboard fillers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Noel said: expensive cupboard fillers Why would they end up in a cupboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, JasonB said: Why would they end up in a cupboard. Collectors and hoarders? You'd like to think they'll be played with and run on layouts, but at those prices will they ever be run? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie10646 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Noel said: Collectors and hoarders? You'd like to think they'll be played with and run on layouts, but at those prices will they ever be run? Of course they will be run, Noel. I run my €500 (steam) locos! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, Noel said: Collectors and hoarders? You'd like to think they'll be played with and run on layouts, but at those prices will they ever be run? Who says it's a collector, or hoarder as you put it. Personally, if I forked out that type of cash for a loco, I'd run it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, Noel said: Collectors and hoarders? You'd like to think they'll be played with and run on layouts, but at those prices will they ever be run? You mean people like me, who live in the real world, have jobs, do voluntary work, have other things to do, and are lucky to run their trains a few times per year... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: You mean people like me, who live in the real world, have jobs, do voluntary work, have other things to do, and are lucky to run their trains a few times per year... It's ignorance, Dave. Hoarders, generally collect pizza boxes, newspapers, empty milk cartons, etc. Not €500 models. Or maybe that's just me stereotyping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, JasonB said: It's ignorance, Dave. Hoarders, generally collect pizza boxes, newspapers, empty milk cartons, etc. Not €500 models. Or maybe that's just me stereotyping. You wanna see my display case full of empty milk bottles??? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, DJ Dangerous said: You wanna see my display case full of empty milk bottles??? Can you get out from under all the newspapers and pizza boxes to get a photo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, JasonB said: Can you get out from under all the newspapers and pizza boxes to get a photo? How very dare you??? I have separate display cabinets for my empty pizza boxes, sorted by the type of cheese used. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Awe diddums Vive la difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 49 minutes ago, Noel said: Awe diddums Vive la difference You're back to your passive-aggressive bullying and flaming again? Aw, I thought that you'd grown up. Oh well, maybe next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gph2000 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 A couple of the 121's finished reasonably priced. Hefty gross for one day's selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said: You're back to your passive-aggressive bullying and flaming again? Aw, I thought that you'd grown up. Oh well, maybe next year. Your right 38 minutes ago, gph2000 said: A couple of the 121's finished reasonably priced. Hefty gross for one day's selling. Sometimes there can be a sad story behind the selling of a lot of models or memorabelia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gph2000 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Noel said: Your right Sometimes there can be a sad story behind the selling of a lot of models or memorabelia. I've been that person down the years. Twice I've had to raise 1000 fast and my models came to the rescue. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 21 hours ago, Noel said: Collectors and hoarders? You'd like to think they'll be played with and run on layouts, but at those prices will they ever be run? I see we are back to belittling people in posts again. You don't know who bought them or for what use. This post is a true return to form. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironroad Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Oh please, live and let live 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Ironroad said: Oh please, live and let live Sure, but don't want people to suffer falling into repeating history such as the great Lima 201 debacle selling for close to €1000 when rare on ebay, but barley fetch €50 once the superior later MM 201 was later released. Its not like fine art or stuff like original beetle music score sheets. This false market is temporary, don't like seeing model train enthusiasts exploited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Noel said: Sure, but don't want people to suffer falling into repeating history such as the great Lima 201 debacle selling for close to €1000 when rare on ebay, but barley fetch €50 once the superior later MM 201 was later released. Its not like fine art or stuff like original beetle music score sheets. This false market is temporary, don't like seeing model train enthusiasts exploited. There is a nice way of saying that if you are telling the truth. No need to insult or belittle people, their reasons or their models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: There is a nice way of saying that if you are telling the truth. No need to insult or belittle people, their reasons or their models. Exactly Dave. The original post had a nasty undertone to it. A few collectors I have talked to see a model like being a piece of art that you hang on your wall to look at with never having any intention of running it. If they want to sell it in the future and make a profit it's a wiin win situation for the buyer and seller each gets what he wants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Ironroad said: Oh please, live and let live Boutros Boutros Ghali would have loved you man . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironroad Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 42 minutes ago, RedRich said: Boutros Boutros Ghali would have loved you man . He wasn't entirely as pure as the driven snow, none of us are. I'm just suggesting that a poor choice of words be ignored, and we keep our focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironroad Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Noel said: Sure, but don't want people to suffer falling into repeating history such as the great Lima 201 debacle selling for close to €1000 when rare on ebay, but barley fetch €50 once the superior later MM 201 was later released. Its not like fine art or stuff like original beetle music score sheets. This false market is temporary, don't like seeing model train enthusiasts exploited. Hi Noel, No one is being exploited. It really doesn't matter what price someone might be willing to pay for any model. That will always drive the market at a particular point in time. And of course the appearance of a newer better version of anything will affect the market and buyers are aware that this may happen,. In the end the price paid is a price the buyer is content with, whatever their reason for paying it. We can't second guess this or read minds. You have on a number of occasions described the Lima 201 as a "doorstop" and that is not a fair way to describe a landmark model which was the very first of its kind and as such is still of interest to collectors (and even to those who cannot afford the newer one). Those that secured them at exorbitant prices wanted them and are probably quite happy with them regardless of the collapse in market price. I can think of a lot worse stuff produced by Lima and Hornby that predate the 201 that collectors have an interest in and are prepared to pay for. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I did not want to get involved in this thread but now I feel like I have to We are talking about 2 completely different creatures here, the runner and the collector I would consider myself firstly a collector and to that extent models need to be pristine, and also the box plus spare parts where applicable and any literature that came with the model need to be included. To say price is not important sounds a bit naff, but if it is something that I would like to have in the collection I will pay whatever is needed. Future values are not important to me, the collection is its own end. I also run models so on that front I would always be on the lookout for a bargain, everyone likes a bargain and none more than myself, but as we all know its not a cheap hobby so lets leave each and every person alone and lets just enjoy what we have, be you one or the other. 11 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Right so Ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gph2000 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 11:49 PM, RedRich said: Boutros Boutros Ghali would have loved you man . Better yet, Beatrice Beatrice Kelly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Few eBay bits and bobs today... IRM BritBus Cityswift for €75: https://www.ebay.es/itm/295636868061 IRM BritBus IE Intercity for €70: https://www.ebay.es/itm/295636849579 EFE Translink for €35: https://www.ebay.es/itm/266222204039 Absolute bargain 201 for @Noel, five times the price it should be: https://www.ebay.es/itm/125887838291 Couple of Ulster PD2's around €30 each: https://www.ebay.es/itm/266222203727 https://www.ebay.es/itm/325580373196 https://www.ebay.es/itm/334261544008 Oxford Diecast Tinnelly curtainsider for €35: https://www.ebay.es/itm/325507252714 Corgi Metrobus in two-tone Dublin green : https://www.ebay.es/itm/256042856965 (As far as I know, there was only one of those and it only ran in Dublin for six months at the end of 1989) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 7 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said: Few eBay bits and bobs today... Absolute bargain 201 for @Noel, five times the price it should be: https://www.ebay.es/itm/125887838291 No probs, we live in a free enterprise market. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ZU6UMDfgY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gph2000 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Fowler4f said: Another lot of 071’s, 201’s, Cravens & Mk2’s on EBay, ending this Saturday 7/8pm. If this keeps up, someone is going to bag one for a fiver! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branno Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 I missed out on a few bids, don’t suppose anyone is willing to part with one in CIE livery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren.d Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 What sort of money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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