Marks Models NCC Jinty

[Barl]

It's probably fallen through the cracks with everything else being announced at the SDMRC exhibition but I see that Marks Models are collaborating with Hornby to produce a model variant of the NCC 3F 'Jinty'.

Did anybody manage to get any further information during the show? I only saw the small drawing on a page behind their stand. 

Edited October 29, 2023 by Barl

[Westcorkrailway]

I was literally just making a topic about this when I saw this pop up, so I’ll just put what I typed in this thread 

 

I don’t think this was posted on the forum yet, but those who were looking for some RTR steam might be in luck after all! 

Hello everyone, 

We have some very exciting news for all of our railway modellers. 
With help from our friends at Hornby we have commissioned our first exclusive Irish steam locomotive. 
We are bringing out the UTA (former NCC) 3F tank engine better known as the Jinty. Two of this exceptionally popular tank engines where sent to Ireland during WW2. 
Our model will represent one member of the duo and we are hoping to have it available sometime in the new year. 
Numbers are limited to 500 pieces and price is to be confirmed. 

We hope you enjoy our first foray into Irish steam locomotives!

 

You can pre order by ringing the Dublin or cork store. Price is yet to be arranged 

[steventrain]

I have seen it on Marks Models facebook last Saturday Morning.

Will it be railroad version? 

Lets wait and see.

Edited October 29, 2023 by steventrain

[Killian Keane]

Honestly you would be far better off repainting a Bachmann one, the current Hornby tooling goes back to at least 1978 from what I can tell

Edited October 29, 2023 by Killian Keane

[BosKonay]

Will be interesting to see which hornby tooling it is

[DJ Dangerous]

@Broithe mentioned it briefly yesterday morning, without the detail of today's posts:

 

On 28/10/2023 at 11:14 AM, Broithe said:

Well, the Jinty will also be back - via Mark's Models...

 

I think it's absolutely brilliant that @Marks Models are commissioning a Jinty. I don't care whether the tooling is Bachmann, Hornby or Lima.

If it brings new people to the hobby, and they then buy wagons or coaches from IRM, Murphy Models or Provincial Wagons, then happy days.

Maybe they'll end up buying five new 071's in two or three years, along with rakes of coaches and wagons.

If it's not good enough for forum members, then good for you, don't buy it, but try not to demean people indirectly, or unintentionally, who are going to buy it.

I'll definitely order one, to support Marks Models, to support Irish railway modelling in general, and to see what it's like.

 

[Sean]

I would not mind the cheaper tooling as long as its reflected within the price.

 

If we ended up with railroad tooling for non railroad prices then people should have a right to give out.

 

Good luck with the CN22 @DJ Dangerous 

[Dunluce Castle]

I was able to take a picture of the livery diagram for the new Y class and I think it will look rather smart. 
 

Congratulations to Marks Models for bringing a new model onto the market. 
 

Apologies for the blur on the picture. 

[Georgeconna]

Well Chunky Tension locks on the Diagram. Maybe thats a clue to the tooling.

[Sean]

Build ref R2882

 

if you google R2882 it brings you to the railroad jinty, so i guess its gonna be railroad.

 

If its available for sub 100 euro like the other ones thats not actually a bad thing at all tbh.

Edited October 30, 2023 by Sean

[DJ Dangerous]

34 minutes ago, Georgeconna said:

Well Chunky Tension locks on the Diagram. Maybe thats a clue to the tooling.

 

14 minutes ago, Sean said:

Build ref R2882

 

if you google R2882 it brings you to the railroad jinty, so i guess its gonna be railroad.

 

If its available for sub 100 euro like the other ones thats not actually a bad thing at all tbh.

 

Bit of a shame from a hardcore modellers perspective, if it genuinely is Railroad Range, but since they are so cheap BNIB on eBay, might be great for enticing new people into the hobby.

Might just be the artwork was based on the railroad model?

Have seen them as cheap as €50 odd BNIB on eBay.

 

[Sean]

I get what you are saying but I was actually crying out for that type of model a couple of years back when i was coming back into things so from that regard it should entice people back. it has to be priced properly though and not inflated because of its irishness, thats the only thing i would consider to be essential.

[DJ Dangerous]

14 minutes ago, Sean said:

I get what you are saying but I was actually crying out for that type of model a couple of years back when i was coming back into things so from that regard it should entice people back. it has to be priced properly though and not inflated because of its irishness, thats the only thing i would consider to be essential.

 

Agree 100%. If it brings new people into the hobby, everybody wins.

New ideas, new perspectives, more customers for IRM, Murphy Models, Provincial Wagons, JMD etc further down the line.

[Westcorkrailway]

Could you imagine something like this being made into a starter train set 

[derek]

4 hours ago, Georgeconna said:

Well Chunky Tension locks on the Diagram. Maybe thats a clue to the tooling.

Never had a problem with "chunky tension locks". Should be more of them IMHO.

[BosKonay]

If it’s railroad then dcc options will be limited too. Best option is to wait and see once further details are shared by Marks models! 

[spudfan]

Hornby in the past would not have even considered a run as low as 500 pieces as a commission so things must have changed at Margate. I remember some years ago someone approached them to do something and the amount they were willing to work off was in the thousands. Whatever lands from this if it is not up to your standards don't buy it. 

I thought Marks Models would have commisioned an 00 version of their van first.

[Georgeconna]

9 hours ago, derek said:

Never had a problem with "chunky tension locks". Should be more of them IMHO.

True that but they are certainly 70's style now.

[Niles]

Interesting that they've gone with the UTA livery, the Murphy-Bachmann collab was NCC. 

[Westcorkrailway]

From the marks models FB page

It is great to to be able to announce that our Hornby OO scale NCC / UTA 3F Jinty has arrived into stock and at only €99.99 including free all Ireland delivery is the cheapest Irish Railway locomotive model available for quite sometime . These are available to purchase online now and will be in all the shops from tomorrow Wednesday.
Click on the link below to purchase now. Please share this news with anyone you know who it may interest.

 

 

 

 

http://www.marksmodels.com/?pid=49827&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1we3cASbVRSvIuXPChv9-8ckiTYLXbUJ1raBhgFAkeyr4Tt-HQIaKUl6I_aem_n6dPFrIMfcpENlIHv9PZ_w

[meathdane]

1 hour ago, Westcorkrailway said:

From the marks models FB page

It is great to to be able to announce that our Hornby OO scale NCC / UTA 3F Jinty has arrived into stock and at only €99.99 including free all Ireland delivery is the cheapest Irish Railway locomotive model available for quite sometime . These are available to purchase online now and will be in all the shops from tomorrow Wednesday.
Click on the link below to purchase now. Please share this news with anyone you know who it may interest.

 

 

 

 

http://www.marksmodels.com/?pid=49827&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1we3cASbVRSvIuXPChv9-8ckiTYLXbUJ1raBhgFAkeyr4Tt-HQIaKUl6I_aem_n6dPFrIMfcpENlIHv9PZ_w

Looks to be the Railroads tooling. No NEM pocket or DCC socket on board either. Fair play to them for doing it but I think I'll be taking a miss on this one.

[irishmail]

11 minutes ago, meathdane said:

Looks to be the Railroads tooling. No NEM pocket or DCC socket on board either. Fair play to them for doing it but I think I'll be taking a miss on this one.

Easy enough to hard wire a DCC decoder in or an 8-pin socket.  

[Patrick Davey]

That coupling............ 

[DJ Dangerous]

Awesome!!!

Defo need one of these babies!

The livery looks lovely. What does @jhb171achill have to say on it?

[meathdane]

5 hours ago, irishmail said:

Easy enough to hard wire a DCC decoder in or an 8-pin socket.  

True enough on the DCC front, however the coupling is a bit to get over, wouldnt cost Hornby much to update the model to have a NEM pocket and many more people would be encouraged to buy it. No trying to put anyone off it nor bash Marks Models mind you, great to see more irish models coming on stream.

[irishmail]

That is one on the issues with a lot of the 'older' Hornby and ex Lima models.  A couple of small improvements, such as , NEM pockets would be better, from reports I have seen its the same issue with the class 101 and 110 DMU's.  Shame really as despite being older tooling,  they still don't look too bad.

[Newtoncork]

So how easy is it to remove the D coupling and replace it with an NEM pocket?

[Westcorkrailway]

I think this is literally the “Irish Hornby Railroad” some have been crying out for. Sure the UTA it not everyone’s cup of tea but if your on a budget sometimes you don’t have a choice! 
 

An Irish steam engine for €99.99 will have a few downsides inevitably. But most working on the cheap won’t be needing Kadee couplings!

Edited July 3 by Westcorkrailway

[DJ Dangerous]

11 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

I think this is literally the “Irish Hornby Railroad” some have been crying out for. Sure the UTA it not everyone’s cup of tea but if your on a budget sometimes you don’t have a choice! 
 

An Irish steam engine for €99.99 will have a few downsides inevitably. But most working on the cheap won’t be needing Kadee couplings!

 

Hit the nail on the head there, WCR. People have been crying out for something like this for years, an Irish loco for the price of a pack of wagons.

Order already placed for mine!

[leslie10646]

20 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said:

From the marks models FB page

It is great to to be able to announce that our Hornby OO scale NCC / UTA 3F Jinty has arrived into stock and at only €99.99 including free all Ireland delivery is the cheapest Irish Railway locomotive model available for quite sometime . These are available to purchase online now and will be in all the shops from tomorrow Wednesday.
Click on the link below to purchase now. Please share this news with anyone you know who it may interest.

 

 

 

 

http://www.marksmodels.com/?pid=49827&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1we3cASbVRSvIuXPChv9-8ckiTYLXbUJ1raBhgFAkeyr4Tt-HQIaKUl6I_aem_n6dPFrIMfcpENlIHv9PZ_w

Looks Ok to me:

9 June 1957                                                                                                                 Lance King Collection Copyright IRRS

[gibbo675]

4 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said:

I think this is literally the “Irish Hornby Railroad” some have been crying out for. Sure the UTA it not everyone’s cup of tea but if your on a budget sometimes you don’t have a choice! 
 

An Irish steam engine for €99.99 will have a few downsides inevitably. But most working on the cheap won’t be needing Kadee couplings!

Less hassle than doing the following:

All good fun though !

Gibbo.

 

[irishmail]

For anyone interested in repainting, I currently have this listed,  

 

[DJ Dangerous]

2 hours ago, irishmail said:

For anyone interested in repainting, I currently have this listed,  

 

 

I'd be more interested in a Thomas set if you had one.....

[Patrick Davey]

I expressed an interest in this Jinty and indeed it looks really good, the livery especially, but the large couplers are giving me second thoughts.  Hopefully someone can advise how feasible it is to deal with this and if it's not feasible to replace them with NEMs, then the only thing I can think of is the brutal but usually effective method of fixing black wire between the buffers (I can hear the gasps of horror from here!)

But fair play to Marks.

[jhb171achill]

On 2/7/2024 at 10:49 PM, DJ Dangerous said:

Awesome!!!

Defo need one of these babies!

The livery looks lovely. What does @jhb171achill have to say on it?

Historically spot on, livery-wise, provided the lining is as it looks to be - red and straw colour, not yellow as sometime mes seen on UTA models.

Nice looking beast overall.