Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive

[Galteemore]

Thanks Ernie- fabulous. The Manorhamilton one is a gem. Amazing detail on the loco jack visible - never noticed that brass collar before. And also proves that SLNC locos indeed did have red coupling rods!!  

Edited January 12, 2023 by Galteemore

[StevieB]

The photo of Albert Quay is interesting in that the whole station area is awash with goods wagons. Oh the way things used to be in both of the islands.

Stephen

[Irishswissernie]

This one is said to be Adelaide but it definitely isn't I reckon its Lisburn. 207 June 1957.

 

[airfixfan]

Lisburn it is on platform for Belfast

[Galteemore]

A lovely view. The GN just before the axes started to fall. Just think of all the places you could have travelled to on that summer day in 57……

[jhb171achill]

On 12/1/2023 at 9:14 AM, Niles said:

That Albert Quay one is just gorgeous. 

Fascinating array of weatherbeaten rolling stock! 

On 12/1/2023 at 9:22 AM, Galteemore said:

And also proves that SLNC locos indeed did have red coupling rods!!  

Like the nameplates, and their red (or black!) backgrounds; some did, some didn’t!

[Galteemore]

33 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

Fascinating array of weatherbeaten rolling stock! 

Like the nameplates, and their red (or black!) backgrounds; some did, some didn’t!

They all had them when freshly shopped, I think, JHB. Trouble was they quickly got covered in gunge. The red background with brass letter nameplates seem to coincide with Dundalk trips - official SLNC policy was to paint them black with red letters. Perhaps the Dundalk men wanted to see shiny brass adorning their workmanship. But as soon as Manorhamilton got a chance, painted black and red they were! On the other hand, buffer shanks were, unusually, painted black.
This still from the early 50s shows how luminous the rods could be when fresh….and Hamilton Ellis, who adored the SLNC and knew it first hand in detail, painted Lissadell with very clear red rods. Indeed in ‘The Engines That Passed’ he expressly states that the SLNC was his favourite Irish railway, so he’d want to get the details right. Sadly, his picture of the 4-4-0 hauled mail passing Dromahair in that book is only a line drawing rather than full colour! How glorious that would have looked….

Edited January 13, 2023 by Galteemore

[Irishswissernie]

The only one I havn't identified the exact location is this shot of CDRJC 'Erne' . Other views at Lifford and Raphoe are on a Letterkenny bound mixed so possibly at Convoy? June 1957.

 

[airfixfan]

Possibly Convoy

[Irishswissernie]

A couple at Cork, Kent station June 1957.

A53

Coaches 31m & 26m

 

[airfixfan]

On 14/1/2023 at 9:12 AM, Irishswissernie said:

The only one I havn't identified the exact location is this shot of CDRJC 'Erne' . Other views at Lifford and Raphoe are on a Letterkenny bound mixed so possibly at Convoy? June 1957.

Photo after careful research is Glenmaquin

 

Meant to say that after careful research that is the rarely seen Glenmaquin

[connollystn]

@Irishswissernie - A trick of the camera, the coaches 31m & 26m look like they have chimneys.

[Irishswissernie]

2 minutes ago, connollystn said:

@Irishswissernie - A trick of the camera, the coaches 31m & 26m look like they have chimneys.

They did! I'm sure I dreamt somewhere that Mr Bulleid converted 2 coaches to have individual peat fired Barbecues  and heating in the compartments to cut out the tiresome coupling up of steam pipes and also provide passengers with possible self service hot food!

[Irishswissernie]

A mixture today both in subject and photo quality!.

Ex NCC no 15 Belfast, York Road June 1957.

These negs were free so I can't complain!

L&LSR 2 negs No 15's works plate and L&BER bogie fish van no 90 (I think - poor neg)

Lastly I think this is probably NCC ex B&NCR narrow gauge coach 306 bogie detail.

 

 

[airfixfan]

Last photo is of NCC coach 306 bogie. Built in 1879 for the BCRBR survived until 1950 in service. Only used on Lammas Fair days only

[Irishswissernie]

3 'Location unknown' today; ideas anyone? First one by general concencus is Galway.

 

Edited January 28, 2023 by Irishswissernie

[Horsetan]

16 minutes ago, Irishswissernie said:

3 'Location unknown' today; ideas anyone?

 

The first one looks a bit like Galway Station goods yard....

Second one, no idea.

Third one: is there anywhere on the Dublin-Cork route that had what looks like a full crossover?

Edited January 20, 2023 by Horsetan

[Irishswissernie]

The first one I immediately thought of Galway but it looks to be open countryside on the left of the negative, I think the M&GWR had a few goods sheds with the curved roof.

[Irishswissernie]

Wexford station late 50's  - early 60's.

Rosslare 354 same era

Manorhamilton June 1957, Lissadell's nameplate appears to have been touched up in white, no doubt by a photographer.

 

[Galteemore]

49 minutes ago, Irishswissernie said:

Wexford station late 50's  - early 60's.

Rosslare 354 same era

Manorhamilton June 1957, Lissadell's nameplate appears to have been touched up in white, no doubt by a photographer.

 

Thanks Ernie. I just think it’s where the red paint has faded to a greyish pink. Same effect on the buffer beam. I discovered last week that from 2015-2017 I had been living within 5 miles of one of Lissadell’s plates. Richard Casserley had it on his wall! 

Edited January 23, 2023 by Galteemore

[Old Blarney]

Athlone, Great Southern and Western Station and Yard? 

Looking to the right-hand-side of the signal, between the two sets of Telegraph Poles there is a Railway Line.  The Midland Great Western line from Mullingar met the Great Southern and Western Line from Portarlington East of the Shannon Railway Bridge. This junction was a short distance West of the Great Southern and Western's Station on the East Bank of the Shannon River.

Edited January 24, 2023 by Old Blarney

[connollystn]

@Horsetan(six posts ago) - As you suggested that the third picture might be on the Dublin-Cork route the first place which came to mind is Mallow.

[jhb171achill]

On 17/1/2023 at 8:11 AM, Irishswissernie said:

A couple at Cork, Kent station June 1957.

A53

Coaches 31m & 26m

 

 

Love the chimneys on the right-hand coach...........

Edited January 24, 2023 by jhb171achill

[jhb171achill]

On 23/1/2023 at 8:11 AM, Irishswissernie said:

Wexford station late 50's  - early 60's.

Rosslare 354 same era

Manorhamilton June 1957, Lissadell's nameplate appears to have been touched up in white, no doubt by a photographer.

 

I asked Senior about that years ago. He said that he thought the lettering on "Lissadell" had been painted white. As we know, nameplate "liveries" in the SLNCR varied; some plates had red backgrounds, some black; some polished, some painted. Must draw up a list sometime. But look at the COACH! It is so faded and so dirty is actually looks brown - when in fact it was painted a dark LMS-like maroon! In later days many of their carriages were so extremely shabby that you could barely tell what colour they actually were under it all.

 

On 19/1/2023 at 9:03 AM, Irishswissernie said:

 

   

 

Note the BNCR coach in the background. The flat sides were the tell-tale sign of Belfast & Northern Counties stock, the very last examples of which (in emergency peak suburban use on the Larne line) were still to be seen in use as late as 1965. This one, at this stage, is a Mess Van in UTA green.

[Irishswissernie]

Dublin Broadstone 401 late 50's - early 60's

Dublin Amiens St same era, 693 on the ex M&GWR next to the canal and A11 on the bridge carrying the GNRI.

Cavan & Leitrim, a couple from June 1957 at Ballinamore. 12L on the Dromod mixed whilst Coach1* ? rots in the former carriage shed sidings.

 

[GSR 800]

On 20/1/2023 at 8:30 AM, Irishswissernie said:

The first one I immediately thought of Galway but it looks to be open countryside on the left of the negative, I think the M&GWR had a few goods sheds with the curved roof.

Looking at some other photos, almost certainly Galway. Telegraph poles line up, platform looks the same and a small building with a pitched roof, possibly an office of some kind is there also.

 

[Irishswissernie]

Yes on reflection, I agree Title amended. Thanks.

Ernie

[Galteemore]

Interesting colour pic of the C and L bogie. Shows what happens to maroon paint over many years if left untouched. The GSR branding, although much faded, is still visible. Up in north Leitrim, coaches with a similar faded maroon finish were also to be seen - see post of a few days ago. 

[BSGSV]

On 24/1/2023 at 12:25 PM, Old Blarney said:

Athlone, Great Southern and Western Station and Yard? 

Looking to the right-hand-side of the signal, between the two sets of Telegraph Poles there is a Railway Line.  The Midland Great Western line from Mullingar met the Great Southern and Western Line from Portarlington East of the Shannon Railway Bridge. This junction was a short distance West of the Great Southern and Western's Station on the East Bank of the Shannon River.

The point rodding run doesn't seem to correspond with Athlone East. It does look like the west end of the layout at Mullingar West, see this photo only you're facing the other way:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1405587800190989&set=gm.2486712704815406&idorvanity=171953576291342

Edited February 1, 2023 by BSGSV
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[jhb171achill]

On 28/1/2023 at 10:57 AM, Galteemore said:

Interesting colour pic of the C and L bogie. Shows what happens to maroon paint over many years if left untouched. The GSR branding, although much faded, is still visible. Up in north Leitrim, coaches with a similar faded maroon finish were also to be seen - see post of a few days ago. 

Maroon fading was probably best seen on SLNCR stock - which though still in use was faded even worse, to an extent that even embarrassed the management - and covered on top of that with a good layer of brake dust!

On a visit to the Isle of Man in 1973 I saw an abandoned coach body somewhere which looked "pink" for the same reason.

[Irishswissernie]

UTA ex Belfast & County Down Railway, a derelict Queens Quay shed with a collection of OOU/withdrawn ex GNRI locos. 2 views.

SLNCR Manorhamilton Coach 10 and wagon 13.     June 1957.

 

Edited January 31, 2023 by Irishswissernie

[Irishswissernie]

Cavan & Leitrim Drumshambo or Drumshanbo ! June 1957.  The wagon behind the cart definitely looks as if its been re-painted black or a very very dark grey compared to some of the ones in the background.

Inchicore 373 or most of it, probably late 50's- early 60's

Waterford from one of the old landing stages on the river 302 heads a line-up awaiting their fate.

 

[jhb171achill]

2 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

Cavan & Leitrim Drumshambo or Drumshanbo ! June 1957.  The wagon behind the cart definitely looks as if its been re-painted black or a very very dark grey compared to some of the ones in the background.

Inchicore 373 or most of it, probably late 50's- early 60's

Waterford from one of the old landing stages on the river 302 heads a line-up awaiting their fate.

 

The photos of the SLNC coach and the C & L wagons are definitely at least partially "colourised" in some way, or perhaps the originals were on poor quality film. C & L wagons were never that dark a grey, although the grey used by CIE did "lighten" in the late fifties, and with a pale green "snail" these are in earlier grey. But it wasn't THAT dark. The SLNC coach looks to be a faded brown colour. In fact, all SLNC coaches were maroon - although bad fading due to cheap paint - and not enough of it - and a liberal coacting of pale brown brake dust due to the company not being able to afford enough cleaners - made some coaches don a distinctly brownish hue. But this one looks like its original colour was some sort of brown - which it wasn't.

As an aside, given the SLNCR's lack of bank balance for decades, I wouldn't be surprised if they got paint from the GSR or NCC, as they used the same sort of dark maroon.

[Irishswissernie]

Looking through the tunnel to Cork Albert Quay station June 1957.

301 at Limerick Junction same month.

 

[Galteemore]

This is a fabulous set of photos Ernie - that photographer racked up some miles in June 57.