201bhoy Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Possibly' date=' 201bhoy, I'd agree with your points about some well painted; I suppose my real point is that for whatever reason, not as many tourists ask for them now. There'll always be at least a niche market though. Just on a personal basis not my thing.[/quote'] Yeah you're probably right there, interest has maybe died down a bit now that they're more in the distant past! About the livery, blue and cream like the cravens would be really nice but I'm sure they won't want to copy that... Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) Pic of 8113 going into grand Hibernian livery doing the rounds. Looks similar to the Northern Belle livery on the 57s across the water. Genuine does anyone know? Edit; tis a photoshop. Ah well. Edited May 1, 2015 by Warbonnet Quote
richrua Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Personally I would paint it orange and black just for the craic Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 It looks like a 111 will be hired for parts of the Northern tour though which is good news! Quote
201bhoy Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 It looks like a 111 will be hired for parts of the Northern tour though which is good news! Where'd you hear that Warbonnet? Can we see the pic, even if it is photoshopped I wonder will they change locos in Dundalk/ Newry or wait til Belfast? I'm also wondering will the train stay in Belfast Central at night? Cause it's not in the greatest area, could be susceptible to stones being thrown at it over the fence... Quote
Broithe Posted May 2, 2015 Author Posted May 2, 2015 I'm also wondering will the train stay in Belfast Central at night? Cause it's not in the greatest area, could be susceptible to stones being thrown at it over the fence... Do remember not to include this sample of your work, if you send your CV to the Tourist Board.... Quote
Railer Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 I think it depends if they fit TPWS to 216 or not. If not then a loco change at Dundalk. If it gets TPWS then a 111 would only be needed for parts of the NIR network that is not capable of taking the weight of a 201. Quote
Warbonnet Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 I think it depends if they fit TPWS to 216 or not. If not then a loco change at Dundalk. If it gets TPWS then a 111 would only be needed for parts of the NIR network that is not capable of taking the weight of a 201. I'd imagine it will be needed due to weight restrictions on 201s. I'm sure they'll want 216 as flexible as possible and fit TPWS. Quote
201bhoy Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Do remember not to include this sample of your work, if you send your CV to the Tourist Board.... I won't I wonder why it is in general that so many railway stations seem to be in slightly seedy/dodgy areas.. Quote
Broithe Posted May 2, 2015 Author Posted May 2, 2015 I won't I wonder why it is in general that so many railway stations seem to be in slightly seedy/dodgy areas.. Economics - cheap land and housing for workers built around it - management lived away in the 'better' areas... Quote
Broithe Posted May 2, 2015 Author Posted May 2, 2015 Also, these were often former industrial areas, with rail access being important at one time - but, the industries have largely gone, and the wealth with them... Quote
jhb171achill Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Having said that, what was a "good" area in the mid nineteenth century when most railways were built, and where the "bad" areas then were, is often very different from the way things are today. High class and fashionable rich merchant's town houses in Georgian times became the most awful tenements a hundred years later. Some "bad" areas have had old substandard housing cleared away and smart new developments built there instead. Quote
Broithe Posted May 2, 2015 Author Posted May 2, 2015 A lot of the Northern cities in England used to be the richest, in the days of wool, steel, coal, shipbuilding, etc. Now that's largely all gone and the wealth they created is still around, but it's mostly in the South, where people get paid for counting it. Same sort of thing as JHB says, but on a larger scale. Quote
jhb171achill Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Indeed, Broithe..... and also, some of today's "bad areas" were rural country villages not only when the railways were bring built, but long after many had closed! Look, for example (without labelling any very specific place) at the Dublin & Blessington Tramway. It closed in the early 1930s for the very reason that the areas it served didn't generate enough traffic. Some of those places along its route are now highly built up, and in some cases home to, emm, anti-social behaviour! Incidentally, wouldn't the D & B make an amazing concept for a layout - a quirky unusual thing along the lines of David Holman's SLNCR? Quote
Mayner Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 I won't I wonder why it is in general that so many railway stations seem to be in slightly seedy/dodgy areas.. In the States they call it the "wrong side of the tracks" I know a few towns where there is no right side some surprisingly small places. Quote
Broithe Posted May 2, 2015 Author Posted May 2, 2015 Indeed, Broithe..... and also, some of today's "bad areas" were rural country villages not only when the railways were bring built, but long after many had closed! And, of course, many rural dwellers were poor enough before the cities started to grow and drew even more wealth away. Then the rich from the cities started to buy their 'rural retreats'. I once lived in a stone cottage in the Cotswolds that would have been a slum a hundred years ago, but would cost you seven figures to buy today... Quote
Mayner Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Indeed, Broithe..... and also, some of today's "bad areas" were rural country villages not only when the railways were bring built, but long after many had closed! Look, for example (without labelling any very specific place) at the Dublin & Blessington Tramway. It closed in the early 1930s for the very reason that the areas it served didn't generate enough traffic. Some of those places along its route are now highly built up, and in some cases home to, emm, anti-social behaviour! Incidentally, wouldn't the D & B make an amazing concept for a layout - a quirky unusual thing along the lines of David Holman's SLNCR? My father once lived in the mountains above Brittas and had memories of the D&B in its final years even then some of the areas along its route had a bit of a reputation of being what we now call 'anti-social". Rural places can be downright dangerous if you don't know the lie of the land. A group of us on a railfan trip to the Cass Scenic Railroad in West Virginia were advised to steer clear of the local taverns unless you were packing a gun. American street gang culture can be prevalent even in the remotest of villages, a person can get into serious trouble by turning up in the wrong colour car or wearing the wrong colour tee shirt Locals can be suspicious of strangers wandering into their territory particularly if they are distilling moonshine or some of the newer cash crops. Quote
thewanderer Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Evening all, Belmond's MK3 Generator Van 7601 has been painted in to the new Grand Hibernian livery at Brodie Engineering in Kilmarnock. However decals still need to be applied. Click http://smu.gs/1EWMHRI to view. Picture courtesy of Belmond. The Wanderer. Quote
Noel Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Thanks. Any idea what the finished livery will be? Anything like this assuming the blue on the EGV? Edited June 3, 2015 by Noel Quote
Warbonnet Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Exciting stuff Neil, thanks for sharing. Looking forward to seeing 216. Quote
thewanderer Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I know as much as you do. But I think it will look rather classy. Quote
Railer Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 216 is going to look class when it's finished. Hope Belmond's second 201 is not too far behind, whatever it turns out to be. Quote
ttc0169 Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Still a bit of work to be done on the loco-but it's looking great at this stage of its overhaul. Quote
Warbonnet Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Well it's certainly emerald green! Nice one Noel, is it just plain green on the sides or is there a design to it? Quote
tonybonneyba Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Well it's certainly emerald green! Nice one Noel, is it just plain green on the sides or is there a design to it? That's not emerald green, the enterprise from 2006/7 uptil now had a emerald green strip Quote
Warbonnet Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 That's not emerald green, the enterprise from 2006/7 uptil now had a emerald green strip It was a joke Quote
tonybonneyba Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 It was a joke Whoops, sorry! I'm rubbish when it comes to jokes! Quote
tonybonneyba Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 [ATTACH]19473[/ATTACH]Still a bit of work to be done on the loco-but it's looking great at this stage of its overhaul. May I try something with this pic? Quote
Railer Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) The Mk3s being refurbed over in Scotland are in blue for photos I've seen. well the EGV is anyway. What's happening here with the green? TTC, you should post that photo up on the Boards 201 thread too. If not can I drop it over there at some stage? Edited July 17, 2015 by Railer Quote
jhb171achill Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 It's not a million miles off the early 1960's experimental UTA "Catherwood" livery for railcars! Quote
Railer Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 Must have been some left over paint from the horrible 29k livery. That's what this looks like to me so far head on. I was hoping and expecting a blue livery like the NIR 201s first had. Quote
skinner75 Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 I'm not feeling that shade of green one bit Quote
Broithe Posted July 17, 2015 Author Posted July 17, 2015 I would call it a deep shade of Eau de Nil. Quote
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