Warbonnet Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Hi Everyone, We received the following pics from our factory overnight; pics of our Ballast Wagons! Are you as excited as we are?? The finishing line is in sight. Remember; you can still order pack B and C direct from us at http://www.irishrailwaymodels.com but they're selling fast! Thanks to everyone who has placed an order with us and supported Irish Railway Models from the start. This would not be happening without you! Edited June 1, 2017 by Warbonnet
Noel Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Good news. Looking forward to putting them on the layout next month behind a double header of 141s.
Warbonnet Posted March 9, 2017 Author Posted March 9, 2017 Yum Yum! looks like chocolate. You weren't expecting injection moulded plastic, were you? These are finest Belgian chocolate sir!
enniscorthyman Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Great news. I am getting my plough vans ready.
Noel Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Great news.I am getting my plough vans ready. Yes have BR shark plough van ready for repainting to yellow as there are no Irish RTR plough vans!
WRENNEIRE Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 I reckon after the new ballasts these babies will be in high demand
Warbonnet Posted March 9, 2017 Author Posted March 9, 2017 Lovely ploughs Dave. They really look good in model form!
enniscorthyman Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Yes have BR shark plough van ready for repainting to yellow as there are no Irish RTR plough vans! No rtr Plough vans alright,but the SSM kits are handy enough to build.
jhb171achill Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 In those boxes, they look like the Terracotta Army! All hail to the Ballast Army; well done, gentlemen, in pursuing this worthy project. As I write this comment, two magpies fly past outside; tis a good omen.
Junctionmad Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Looking forward to mine too. It will spur me on to finish the second plough van ( the remaining gswr one ) Or double headed I can re-live standing by the line as the dolomite trains went by to ballinacourty , I can still them , two baby GMs snaking along by the suir , blowing their horns to warn trackside imps like me All I need then is an A class an a few oil tankers to complete the memories Edited March 9, 2017 by Junctionmad
craven1508 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 nice little yukes!! my mouth is watering those ballasts will be tasty! take a bow all concerned:)
Weshty Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Yum Yum! looks like chocolate. If these were chocolate they'd be Lindt 70% pure cocoa with orange and almond bits in it! Mmmmmm.
Weshty Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) I reckon after the new ballasts these babies will be in high demand DAMN man!! Those look seriously fine. Never thought anything so durty would look so desirable. (quiet you down the back). Edited March 10, 2017 by Weshty spelling....
jhb171achill Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 DAMN man!! Those look seriously fine. Never thought anything so durty would look so desirable... Oooohhhhh careful, careful now..........!!
Railer Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 It's really finally happening. Can't wait for these to arrive and the temptation to get 2-4 plough vans is starting to get too much . Once these arrive along with the bubbles and taras we have everything we need to model a Kingscourt Navan branch layout. A nice A class would be the icing on a very tasty cake. Well done lads,
Weshty Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 we have everything we need to model a Kingscourt Navan branch layout I know that line well. Good call sir. Good call.
Noel Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 Question folks, did the ballasts always run with two plough vans, one at each end, or did they some times have one in the rake?
enniscorthyman Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 Question folks, did the ballasts always run with two plough vans, one at each end, or did they some times have one in the rake? I did see a few with a single plough van Noel.
WRENNEIRE Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 I am sure I saw some with no ploughs, being dropped off for later use?
Garfield Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 I did see a few with a singleplough van Noel. I've seen a few photos of ballast trains with single plough vans but the hoppers were always empty, and a lot of those trains appeared to be split rakes. I only recall seeing one photo of a single plough on a loaded train.
Garfield Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) I am sure I saw some with no ploughs, being dropped off for later use? Are you sure they weren't dolomite or gypsum trains, Dave? http://eiretrains.com/Photo_Gallery/Railway%20Stations%20K/Kingscourt/IrishRailwayStations.html#Kingscourt_20110209_001_CC_JA.jpg Edited March 11, 2017 by Garfield
WRENNEIRE Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 Could have been Gypsum now that I think of it I used to escort explosives to Kingscourt and that may have been where I saw them Good detective work Pat
Junctionmad Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 I was in the cab of a 141 in 1974 , when it collected ballast from queallys quarry at carrolls cross , loads of ballast . no plough van at all !!. Ive seen several pictures of a single plough van , the double setup seems to be much later in IR days
Garfield Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 I was in the cab of a 141 in 1974 , when it collected ballast from queallys quarry at carrolls cross , loads of ballast . no plough van at all !!. Ive seen several pictures of a single plough van , the double setup seems to be much later in IR days We have photos on file of CIÉ-era ballast trains with a plough van at either end. The 24850 series plough vans were only introduced in 1978.
Vlak Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 Regarding ballast rakes there were times that a single plough was used; more often than not if the second one was away for repairs / maintenance. The general principle of having two vans was to negate the need to be able to spread ballast in one direction only; but for most (single lines) it could be overcome by dropping ballast in the direction which the plough was facing. For example if it was planned to drop ballast between Portarlington and Tullamore and the van was at the Tullamore end the train would run laden from Portarlington - Tullamore, run round and then drop going back to Portarlington. The ballast hoppers were formed into 3x rakes (known as Sets A, B & C). The usual composition was 15 hoppers & 2x vans. One of the rakes had a former GSWR plough van in the consist (dating from 1906) and although running on a more modern under-frame it was considered the oldest item of rolling stock left running in everyday service on Irish Railways.
Irishswissernie Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) These were empty, came in from the east the day before and stabled overnight in the old Ballinrobe platform. The van could well be 24850. I think the last number is a 0 Ernie Edited March 13, 2017 by Irishswissernie
Warbonnet Posted March 13, 2017 Author Posted March 13, 2017 Great info and pics there men. Have to say I love the plough vans. Make for a lovely model in themselves.
Noel Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 Great info and pics there men. Have to say I love the plough vans. Make for a lovely model in themselves. Can somebody please explain to me the different provenance of these two plough vans? The latter one seems to have a longer wheelbase.
Glenderg Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 The later van has been explained in some detail here - http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/5448-10-Ton-GSWR-Ballast-Brake-Plough-Van
Noel Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) The later van has been explained in some detail here - http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/5448-10-Ton-GSWR-Ballast-Brake-Plough-Van Thanks Richie. That was an excellent post/thread well researched, don't know how I missed it at the time. Your research has convinced me to go for the earlier '10 Ton GSWR Ballast Brake Plough Van' and paint it Bauxite or Brown which would probably be more appropriate for my B&T era than the later plough in bright PW yellow. Thanks again. Edited March 13, 2017 by Noel
DiveController Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Was JB able to clarify when tat photo was taken?
jhb171achill Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 If that's one of my pictures it was taken around 1975-6-7-8. I have an idea that this is the one now at Downpatrick.
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